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Oystein 10th November 2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TofuFighter (Post 12070429)
It was originally on Alternet and punted upfield in the Salon story, but it appears all to be rumour.

Thx

GodMark2 10th November 2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf (Post 12071199)
Should really have known that she wasn't up to the job when she stated that they needed guns in schools as protection for grizzly bears. Come on, everyone knows, you don't shoot a grizzly, it'll just make it angry!

*****WARNING: Graphic Images in article. Not for the squeamish!******

He just needed a bigger gun. I'd suggest something in the 120mm range. That should at least make the bear pause and ponder.

Trebuchet 14th November 2017 01:31 PM

I hereby nominate Jeff Sessions. Who is simultaneously trying to explain why he can't remember being in meetings with Papadopolous where Russian collusion was discussed and being criticized by Trump & Co for not locking her up.

No worries for Jeffie though. After Roy Moore is expelled by the Senate the governor can nominate him back to his old seat.

Craig4 21st November 2017 02:42 PM

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...ump-idiot-dope

MR McMaster maybe the next out now. We'll see. For some reason The Hair dislikes having his intellectual deficiency pointed out to him. Not sure why; it's perfectly obvious.

Civet 22nd November 2017 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12086275)
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...ump-idiot-dope

MR McMaster maybe the next out now. We'll see. For some reason The Hair dislikes having his intellectual deficiency pointed out to him. Not sure why; it's perfectly obvious.

Wow. If that's on the level (or if Trump just believes it is) I can't imagine McMaster lasting much longer. It it's true, I'm not surprised that he'd feel that way about Trump, but I am surprised that he'd be so reckless about spreading it around.

Galaxie 30th November 2017 09:28 AM

Tillerson soon to be out?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/u...peo-trump.html

Trebuchet 30th November 2017 09:38 AM

Conway is moving on to become some sort of opioid czar but I don't think that counts.

The Don 30th November 2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxie (Post 12096210)

There was supposed to be some kind of "suicide pact" between Tillerson, Mnuchin and Mattis...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a7984151.html

I expect that it will prove to be so much hot air.

Hellbound 30th November 2017 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12096240)
There was supposed to be some kind of "suicide pact" between Tillerson, Mnuchin and Mattis...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a7984151.html

I expect that it will prove to be so much hot air.

All the hot air is what keeps them afloat.

TheL8Elvis 30th November 2017 10:40 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

White House readies plan to replace Tillerson with Pompeo at State, install Cotton at CIA
The plan, hatched by White House chief of staff John F. Kelly, is expected to be set in motion over the next few weeks.

Looks like Tillerson is a good bet for next.

ponderingturtle 30th November 2017 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12096223)
Conway is moving on to become some sort of opioid czar but I don't think that counts.

So is she working for Kushner or was this taken off his plate?

zorro99 30th November 2017 11:09 AM

Tillerson has been a disaster at State. He should go. He’s likely be happier too since he considers Trump a moron.

The Great Zaganza 30th November 2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zorro99 (Post 12096338)
Tillerson has been a disaster at State. He should go. Hes likely be happier too since he considers Trump a moron.

Trump needs Tillerson more than the other way around.

d4m10n 30th November 2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by seayakin (Post 11938192)
My money is on Tillerson

Best keep it there for now.

Cl1mh4224rd 30th November 2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12096240)
There was supposed to be some kind of "suicide pact" between Tillerson, Mnuchin and Mattis...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a7984151.html


Completely off-topic, and I'm really asking nobody, but... why is that filed under "Culture > Film > News"?

dudalb 30th November 2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zorro99 (Post 12096338)
Tillerson has been a disaster at State. He should go. Hes likely be happier too since he considers Trump a moron.

Agreed but Tom Cotton at the CIA would be a even greater disaster.

ponderingturtle 30th November 2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zorro99 (Post 12096338)
Tillerson has been a disaster at State. He should go. Hes likely be happier too since he considers Trump a moron.

But what are the odds anyone else would actually improve the situation?

CapelDodger 30th November 2017 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 12096315)
So is she working for Kushner or was this taken off his plate?

Good question. I recall he was made responsible for a whole raft of things, but don't recall what any of the others were. Strange how long ago that seems now.

Does anyone recall who was going to plug the leaks at the White House? Was that one of Jared's? Or was it a Kelly mission?

CapelDodger 30th November 2017 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxie (Post 12096210)

Since he has to go, better he go now while things are quiet on the diplomatic front, thanks to Pax Trumpicus. The new guy can settle in over the Xmas-New Year season when nothing much goes on back in the office.

CapelDodger 30th November 2017 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12096534)
Agreed but Tom Cotton at the CIA would be a even greater disaster.

How's this going to weave into the Russia investigation and obstruction of justice tapestry? (Rhetorical.)

Stacko 30th November 2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CapelDodger (Post 12096867)
How's this going to weave into the Russia investigation and obstruction of justice tapestry? (Rhetorical.)

It doesn't. He's just a pro-torture psychopath.

Doubt 1st December 2017 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zorro99 (Post 12096338)
Tillerson has been a disaster at State. He should go. Hes likely be happier too since he considers Trump a moron.


And replace him with Sarah Sanders! After all, we don't need somebody at the State Department with ambiguous credibility.

Delphic Oracle 1st December 2017 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis (Post 12096308)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

White House readies plan to replace Tillerson with Pompeo at State, install Cotton at CIA
The plan, hatched by White House chief of staff John F. Kelly, is expected to be set in motion over the next few weeks.

Looks like Tillerson is a good bet for next.

He's my top pick for the next figure the Mueller investigation turns its attention to, what fortuitous timing...

"Oh, you want to go back to the private sector and make fat stacks, huh? Have a seat right over here..."

Craig4 2nd December 2017 03:01 AM

Kushner is looking a lot like he's going back to New York to take care of the family business. Mueller is closing in and there's no upside for him to stay in Washington.

Oystein 2nd December 2017 03:31 AM

Kushner is an enigma to me. He has been given the most plentiful policy portfolio of all ("peace in the ME" anyone? And several more of that caliber), yet is so far back in the background, we famously don't even know his voice. Well almost. What is it in Trump's head that makes Kushner so yugely, bigly important? Is he expendable?

He is such a light weight, any ill breeze ought to whisk him away.

I am not sure Kushner is next, even though he is clearly in Mueller's crosshairs. Too attached to the POTUS's next of kin.

I still say: Kelly! :D

phiwum 2nd December 2017 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle (Post 12098766)
He's my top pick for the next figure the Mueller investigation turns its attention to, what fortuitous timing...

"Oh, you want to go back to the private sector and make fat stacks, huh? Have a seat right over here..."

I'm not a big fan of Tillerson, but I don't think he's deep in the mud here. Perhaps I could be wrong, but he wasn't an integral part of the campaign or transition, far as I recall, and that's the time that is the focus, no?

Cain 2nd December 2017 06:53 AM

Trump only hires the best people, but government is so slow and inefficient that we can't get the NEW best people in fast enough.

Craig4 2nd December 2017 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12099062)
I'm not a big fan of Tillerson, but I don't think he's deep in the mud here. Perhaps I could be wrong, but he wasn't an integral part of the campaign or transition, far as I recall, and that's the time that is the focus, no?

I imagine someone has been talking Tillerson into staying. He should have left after he got undercut when he was trying to talk to the North Koreans while he was in China.

thaiboxerken 2nd December 2017 11:00 PM

Trump will probably keep Tillerson now just to prove the news is fake!

jimbob 3rd December 2017 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12099942)
Trump will probably keep Tillerson now just to prove the news is fake!

That was what I was thinking

quadraginta 3rd December 2017 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12099942)
Trump will probably keep Tillerson now just to prove the news is fake!

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 12099977)
That was what I was thinking


Maybe for a week or two.

jimbob 3rd December 2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta
Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12099942)
Trump will probably keep Tillerson now just to prove the news is fake!

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 12099977)
That was what I was thinking


Maybe for a week or two.


True, not firing someone who is known to be contemptuous of Trump must be eating him inside...

ETA: Firing Tillerson will vindicate "Fake News", not firing him means Tillerson has got away with calling him a moron.

Where will Trump's ego force him

Trebuchet 3rd December 2017 05:16 PM

Tillerson can resign and have enough loyalty not to admit Trump ordered him to do so. Trump can then say he's sorry to see him go.

Oystein 3rd December 2017 07:32 PM

And what about the alleged suicide pact? ;)

The Don 4th December 2017 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 12100771)
And what about the alleged suicide pact? ;)

Even if it existed (and IMO they were a pretty unlikely trio to tie themselves thusly) it would require senior Republicans to behave in an honourable manner.

If I put in enough laughing dogs to properly comment on that statement, I'd likely break the internet.

TheSupermeerkat 4th December 2017 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 12100432)
Where will Trump's ego force him



More yelling about Hillary on Twitter as an absolute minimum.

NoahFence 13th December 2017 08:04 AM

Seems the most insipid of them all (Aside from the boss) is leaving. Omarosa.

Puppycow 13th December 2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NoahFence (Post 12112600)
Seems the most insipid of them all (Aside from the boss) is leaving. Omarosa.

Omarosa is out!

Escorted out of the building! (I don't know if that's in a good way, or like "escorted out" by security.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/o...q52#.kx3jApDep

Quote:

Omarosa Manigault, the former reality TV star turned political aide to President Trump, has resigned from her administration position, the White House announced Wednesday.

Manigault resigned on Tuesday "to pursue other opportunities," press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a statement. Her resignation will not be effective until Jan. 20, 2018 exactly one year since Trump took office.

"We wish her the best in future endeavors and are grateful for her service," Sanders said.

Manigault was escorted out of the building, sources told BuzzFeed News. And April Ryan, who covers the White House and has feuded with Manigault, reported Wednesday there was "drama" around the departure and that she was "escorted out of the building." "Omarosa did not resign," Ryan reported.

Manigault's official title was director of communications for the White House Public Liaison Office, but in reality she had a more undefined portfolio that caused some consternation among her colleagues.

She was widely reported to wander into meetings to which she was not invited, or derail briefings with off-topic discussions.

In April, she also showed up at the White House with her bridal party for a surprise photo shoot, Politico reported, but was banned from posting the pictures publicly due to "security and ethical concerns."

LSSBB 13th December 2017 10:46 AM

From Ray Dalio's Principles, page 328:

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Don't let loyalty to people stand in the way of truth and the well-being of the organization. This is unhealthy and stands in the way of improvement because it prevents people from bringing their mistakes and weaknesses to the surface, encourages deception, and eliminates subordinates' right of appeal.
The same thing applies to personal loyalty. I have regularly seen people kept in jobs they don't deserve because of their personal relationship to the boss, and this leads to unscrupulous managers trading on personal loyalties to build fiefdoms for themselves.
Ray Dalio is a real successful business leader, and not the Reality Show version of a successful business leader.

a_unique_person 13th December 2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Puppycow (Post 12112671)
Omarosa is out!

Escorted out of the building! (I don't know if that's in a good way, or like "escorted out" by security.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/o...q52#.kx3jApDep

Too much showboating?

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