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a_unique_person 2nd March 2018 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12202447)
More reports on CNN tonight that Trump's main economic advisor might well quit over the Tariff.
And the Wall Street Journal blasted Trump for his tariffs, calling it the worst policy decision of his presidency so far. In terms of damaging the economy, they well might be right.

A lot of big businesses like the cheap imports.

Craig4 2nd March 2018 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12202447)
More reports on CNN tonight that Trump's main economic advisor might well quit over the Tariff.
And the Wall Street Journal blasted Trump for his tariffs, calling it the worst policy decision of his presidency so far. In terms of damaging the economy, they well might be right.

And to what end? Steel manufactures aren't coming back. The economy has moved on. These tariffs won't last into the next administration and what's left of the steel manufacturers know that. This is yet another unforced error. There was nothing driving him to a decision point here.

Loss Leader 2nd March 2018 06:22 AM

According to Politico, Hicks likely quit because she was hearing too much about the Russia investigation from Trump. Literally everything he says publicly or privately is a fact (not of its truth, but of Trump's mindset). Every minute she spends with him is more ammunition for the prosecutor.

The Great Zaganza 2nd March 2018 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12202702)
According to Politico, Hicks likely quit because she was hearing too much about the Russia investigation from Trump. Literally everything he says publicly or privately is a fact (not of its truth, but of Trump's mindset). Every minute she spends with him is more ammunition for the prosecutor.

..or about Jared's hair-brained schemes to pressure foreign governments into giving money to his company.

d4m10n 2nd March 2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispy (Post 11938188)
Trump... but in all seriousness, I will take Sessions or Tillerson for the win.

I cannot believe those guys are still hanging in there.

Especially Jeff.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/s...56627144003585

chrispy 2nd March 2018 10:27 AM

Sessions really likes having that "Kick Me'' sign on his back...

kellyb 2nd March 2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12202932)
I cannot believe those guys are still hanging in there.

Especially Jeff.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/s...56627144003585

I get the sense that Tillerson is on a mission to be the last man standing.

He might (or might not!) be pure evil, but he ain't stupid, and he ain't a wimp.

Crossbow 2nd March 2018 10:51 AM

President Trumptard is now looking to give the boot to his hot daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...054041828.html

President Trump Asked Chief Of Staff To Remove Ivanka And Jared Kushner – Report

A New York Times column by Maggie Haberman and Mark Landler claims President Donald Trump asked his chief of staff John Kelly for help in ousting first daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law Jared Kushner from their advisory roles at the White House.

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It is unclear if the president is asking them to leave out of compassion or, as the Times hints, concerns about Kushner’s potential legal issues over various business dealings. The Times story also reports that President Trump has spoken to Kushner and Ivanka Trump and asked them to stay on at the White House but privately has claimed they “never should have come” to work there. Thus, he has asked Kelly to be the instigator of their departure.

...

Loss Leader 2nd March 2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 12203105)
It is unclear if the president is asking them to leave out of compassion or, as the Times hints, concerns about Kushner’s potential legal issues over various business dealings. The Times story also reports that President Trump has spoken to Kushner and Ivanka Trump and asked them to stay on at the White House but privately has claimed they “never should have come” to work there. Thus, he has asked Kelly to be the instigator of their departure.


This fits Trump's modus operandi. Reportedly, he hates firing people. He sort of freezes them out and then has a subordinate tell them they're not welcome anymore. It's bizarre, though, that he can't even have an honest conversation with his own daughter.

I'm not saying this rumor's true. McMaster and Cohn will be the next ones out.

dudalb 2nd March 2018 01:37 PM

Trump says the reporting on McMasters imminent departure are "fake news".
Given the record,he will be gone within a month.....

Craig4 2nd March 2018 02:11 PM

Yeah, you can take a story to the bank when The Hair calls it fake news.

dudalb 2nd March 2018 02:19 PM

One commentator thinks that some of the people who have stayed on in hopes of somehow containing Trump and talking him out of his worse ideas will leaved in droves because his rejecting of the advice of almost all his advisors on Tariffs, means he will state going by his "gut feelings: more and more,and the only thing to do is jump ship and wait until the after the inevitable shipwreck to salvage what can be salvaged.

Cl1mh4224rd 2nd March 2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12202443)
And people though that Hitler's rants against the Jews were just for political purposes.
I have come to think that if someone says bigoted things and acts like a bigot, it is safest to think he is a bigot.


Hell, even if they aren't, why would they stop doing something that's getting them exactly what they want?

Hitler may very well have not hated Jews (and hid it pretty well), but if he was convinced that pandering is what got him the popularity and power that he was seeking, of course he would run with it. At some point it just doesn't matter what his actual opinion of Jews may have been.

So, yep... If a person's outward behavior is consistently in line with a certain personality type, with little to no evidence of their "true" personality, it's in the world's best interest to treat that person as the personality type they present to us.

quadraginta 2nd March 2018 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12202214)
Surrounds himself with sychophants who are afraid to disagree with him.
Increasingly Isolated from all but his his most boot licking sycophants.
Rejecting reality when it clashes with his ideological obssesions.
Finding "traitors" everywhere.
Turning on people who were once his allies.
Now who does that remind you of in his last days?


Whether the similarity has merit or not, I find that part about "his last days" to be pleasant, somehow.

quadraginta 2nd March 2018 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12203315)
Trump says the reporting on McMasters imminent departure are "fake news".
Given the record,he will be gone within a month.....

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12203363)
Yeah, you can take a story to the bank when The Hair calls it fake news.

"Never believe anything until it is officially denied."
An old adage revitalized.

The Great Zaganza 2nd March 2018 09:10 PM

So Kelly is now the new Cheney?
Looks like he controls everything except Twitter...

ponderingturtle 5th March 2018 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 12202295)
You give the lot of them too much credit for maturity.

Speculating: Her boyfriend was canned. Probably led to some tension. Trump's pressures are mounting. He's been yelling at everyone, surely he shouted at Hicks. She's been grumbling not used to not being in a snowflake role. She gets back from the Mueller interrogation, it's leaked about the admission of white lies, Trump is his unable to control himself mood yells some more at poor little Hicks and she says, fine I quit.

That was congress not Mueller interview.

The Great Zaganza 5th March 2018 11:54 PM

The only thing keeping Mattis in the White House is the fact that Trump can't find an alternative candidate who will help him ban Transgender people from serving in the US forces.

Stacko 6th March 2018 03:46 PM

Gary Cohn is resigning.

d4m10n 6th March 2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacko (Post 12207676)

Who had Cohn in the deadpool?

varwoche 6th March 2018 05:28 PM

My current pick is Kelly.

Scaramucci, who is still a Trump cultist, recently referred to Kelly as General Jackass, among other sharp criticisms. And it's being reported that Trump is complicit in this outburst.

Norman Alexander 6th March 2018 05:46 PM

Do we keep a running list of all the White House staff who started with Donny in Jan 2017, and strike out their names as they go? Someone who likes to keep book on these things might like to offer odds on each one as well.

Cl1mh4224rd 6th March 2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12207797)
Do we keep a running list of all the White House staff who started with Donny in Jan 2017, and strike out their names as they go? Someone who likes to keep book on these things might like to offer odds on each one as well.


The Daily Show is sort of keeping track: https://www.facebook.com/thedailysho...type=3&theater

If that doesn't work, here's a direct link to the image: https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...8c&oe=5B3ABE56

Norman Alexander 6th March 2018 06:21 PM

Oh deary deary me, Kellyanne.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-says-watchdog

dudalb 6th March 2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12207831)

She will get a promotion and a raise.

Loss Leader 6th March 2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12207761)
Who had Cohn in the deadpool?


That would be me:

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Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12203156)
McMaster and Cohn will be the next ones out.


Once Trump announced the tariffs, Cohn was a dead man walking.

Norman Alexander 7th March 2018 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12207850)
She will get a promotion and a raise.

So she WILL be the next to leave!

Foolmewunz 7th March 2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12207831)

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12207850)
She will get a promotion and a raise.

She's been admonished for promoting Ivanka's products, then several stores stopped carrying Ivanka's line. Then she got behind Roy Moore and he lost.

Am I wrong in wanting to send her into several flipp-able districts. "Oh, and wear the stupid red-white-and-blue coat, wontcha?"

crescent 7th March 2018 04:00 PM

Not quite the White House, but the Chief of the U.S. Forest Service retired about an hour ago, effective immediately with no warning.

Previously in his USFS career, he had done this:

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“Initiated prior to 2005, the sexual misconduct involved a two-year affair between Mr. Tooke, then Deputy Forest Supervisor in Florida and a student from the SCEP program, who was newly converted to a permanent position in Florida, where Mr. Tooke was assigned,” the retired employee wrote Aug. 31, 2017.
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“During his two-year course of sexual misconduct and affair, Mr. Tooke made repeated calls to the Regional Director of Communications and the Forest Communications Staff Officer urging them to create a new Communications position on the Ocala District in Florida. Mr. Tooke further urged the Regional Director to make placement for the young female employee. The female employee involved in the affair was promoted into the newly created position,” the letter stated.
She was his subordinate - not a direct report, under Tooke's chain of command. Some of the people he pressured to create positions for her were also under his chain of command. This was well known and publicized before they appointed him. Yet, they still brought him out of retirement to put him in charge of the agency.

Trebuchet 7th March 2018 06:11 PM

Can't really blame Trump for that one, I think.

crescent 7th March 2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12208977)
Can't really blame Trump for that one, I think.

Why not?

Tooke's transgressions were well known when he was appointed as Chief by the Trump administration.

Craig4 7th March 2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12207850)
She will get a promotion and a raise.

Probably. The current administration doesn't think anything as mundane as the law applies to it.

TheL8Elvis 8th March 2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12203156)
This fits Trump's modus operandi. Reportedly, he hates firing people. He sort of freezes them out and then has a subordinate tell them they're not welcome anymore. It's bizarre, though, that he can't even have an honest conversation with his own daughter.

I'm not saying this rumor's true. McMaster and Cohn will be the next ones out.

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12207761)
Who had Cohn in the deadpool?

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Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12207853)
That would be me:

:bigclap

Trebuchet 8th March 2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crescent (Post 12209002)
Why not?

Tooke's transgressions were well known when he was appointed as Chief by the Trump administration.

Oh, ok. I had the misapprehension that he was already there.

dudalb 12th March 2018 12:03 PM

Sec. of Education DeVos might be on the list for failure to embrace Trump's "Arm School Teachers" initiative with enthusiasm combined with her terrible, embrassing performance on Meet the Press yesterday,which has White House Officials concerned.

Norman Alexander 12th March 2018 12:57 PM

DeVos won't go. Yet, anyway. She represents the evangelical vote which are about the only block Donny hasn't completely betrayed and insulted in public yet.

Hellbound 12th March 2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12214998)
DeVos won't go. Yet, anyway. She represents the evangelical vote which are about the only block Donny hasn't completely betrayed and insulted in public yet.

Well, he has, by metaphorically taking a big ole dump on most of those ten commandments, but that block has it's blinders firmly in place so that's okay.

Stacko 12th March 2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12214923)
Sec. of Education DeVos might be on the list for failure to embrace Trump's "Arm School Teachers" initiative with enthusiasm combined with her terrible, embrassing performance on Meet the Press yesterday,which has White House Officials concerned.

She's currently bragging on twitter that test scores in Michigan declined after her preferred policies were put in place. 50 Senators and the Vice President voted to confirm this clueless clown.

Craig4 12th March 2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12214923)
Sec. of Education DeVos might be on the list for failure to embrace Trump's "Arm School Teachers" initiative with enthusiasm combined with her terrible, embrassing performance on Meet the Press yesterday,which has White House Officials concerned.

I gather she completely screwed the neighbor's dog on "60 Minutes" too.

Trebuchet 12th March 2018 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12215259)
I gather she completely screwed the neighbor's dog on "60 Minutes" too.

Was it called "Stormy"?


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