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alfaniner 13th March 2018 05:47 AM

TILLERSON OUT!!!

TheL8Elvis 13th March 2018 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loss Leader (Post 12203156)
This fits Trump's modus operandi. Reportedly, he hates firing people. He sort of freezes them out and then has a subordinate tell them they're not welcome anymore. It's bizarre, though, that he can't even have an honest conversation with his own daughter.

I'm not saying this rumor's true. McMaster and Cohn will be the next ones out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12215692)
TILLERSON OUT!!!

No second round of applause for Loss Leader. :(

Still breaking news.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/03/1...ate-tillerson/

CIA Director Mike Pompeo will replace Tillerson.

The Great Zaganza 13th March 2018 05:53 AM

I understand that Putin didn't like Romney as Secretary of State, but does he really prefer Pompeo over Tillerson?
maybe Trump should ask his boss before this staff decision?

ponderingturtle 13th March 2018 05:59 AM

Good to see Trump still stands by his catch phrase.

CapelDodger 13th March 2018 06:17 AM

Tillerson knew the risk he was taking when he bad-mouthed Putin over the Skripal case. Respect is due for doing it anyway, I think.

Stacko 13th March 2018 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapelDodger (Post 12215718)
Tillerson knew the risk he was taking when he bad-mouthed Putin over the Skripal case. Respect is due for doing it anyway, I think.

I'm surprised he survived calling Trump a moron.

Trebuchet 13th March 2018 06:52 AM

And someone called John McEntee, over his security clearance. The Best People!

Crossbow 13th March 2018 07:14 AM

Gee whiz!

Rex Tillerson has finally got the boot and I am surprised that it has taken this long.

And by the way, due to the numerous State Department resignations in the last several months I sure hope that the last person to leave the State Department building will remember to turn out the lights.

alfaniner 13th March 2018 08:06 AM

Tillerson even got the "He's a good man -- I like him" routine, but after the fact this time.

quadraginta 13th March 2018 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12215765)
And someone called John McEntee, over his security clearance. The Best People!


Am I missing something here?

As more and more people get booted out of the White House because of problems with getting their security clearances. shouldn't that make keeping Ivanka and Jared even more difficult?

The_Animus 13th March 2018 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12215765)
And someone called John McEntee, over his security clearance. The Best People!

Being investigated for financial crimes, so they fire him and escort him out of the White House but then make him a senior campaign advisor....

Giordano 13th March 2018 08:26 AM

Apparently John McEntee made certain that Trump always had markers for autographs , delivered messages to him at the White House, and last weekend made certain the clocks in the White House were "sprung forward" for daylight savings time (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...red-1520945928). My God- Trump couldn't even hire a go-fer who didn't have serious issues!

Well, at least Mr. McEntee is now free to find a less demeaning job- assuming he stays clear of a conviction and prison.

quadraginta 13th March 2018 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Animus (Post 12215872)
Being investigated for financial crimes, so they fire him and escort him out of the White House but then make him a senior campaign advisor....


It says a lot about the ethical and moral character of the Trump campaign apparatus, but nothing we didn't already know from past performance.

pgwenthold 13th March 2018 08:43 AM

OK, Tillerson puts out a press release supporting the UK conclusions about the source of the toxin and condemns Russia for their involvement, and suddenly gets canned.

How can Congress let this go unchecked?

Stacko 13th March 2018 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 12215907)
OK, Tillerson puts out a press release supporting the UK conclusions about the source of the toxin and condemns Russia for their involvement, and suddenly gets canned.

How can Congress let this go unchecked?

Because they're aiding and abetting.

Trebuchet 13th March 2018 08:54 AM

It would appear to have been in the works for at least a little while since David Dennison already had noms for SOSUS and CIA lined up.

phiwum 13th March 2018 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 12215907)
OK, Tillerson puts out a press release supporting the UK conclusions about the source of the toxin and condemns Russia for their involvement, and suddenly gets canned.

How can Congress let this go unchecked?

Tillerson was told last Friday that he would be fired, so I think that his comments on Russia are irrelevant here.

jimbob 13th March 2018 09:42 AM

The BBC World Service introduced the Tillerson Story with, "it's been almost 7 full days since the last high-level aide left the White House..."

varwoche 13th March 2018 09:48 AM

It seems like only yesterday when reports of Tillerson's pending ouster was labeled "fake news" by the Liar-in-Chief.

tyr_13 13th March 2018 09:49 AM

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

The Great Zaganza 13th March 2018 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12215985)
Tillerson was told last Friday that he would be fired, so I think that his comments on Russia are irrelevant here.

I would see it as the opposite: he is making a last statement that ignoring Russia's aggressions is wrong.
His successor Pompeo is unabashedly wearing blinders when it comes to Russia, contradicting his own agency.

Mark F 13th March 2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12215985)
Tillerson was told last Friday that he would be fired, so I think that his comments on Russia are irrelevant here.

Correction. Trump says he told Tillerson on Friday. Trump makes stuff up.

According to a release from State Department Under Secretary Steve Goldstein, Tillerson didn't find out about his removal from the president and it appears that he may have heard the news through Trump's tweet.

"The Secretary did not speak to the President and is unaware of the reason, but he is grateful for the opportunity to serve, and still believes strongly that public service is a noble calling,"

So Tillerson got his bad news from the White House the same way the rest of us do, in a 4am Presidential bathroom tweet.

Trebuchet 13th March 2018 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12215692)
TILLERSON OUT!!!

The Happiest Man in America!

Meanwhile, the State Department official who contradicted the official White House story of the firing has also been fired.

Mark F 13th March 2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12216113)
The Happiest Man in America!

Meanwhile, the State Department official who contradicted the official White House story of the firing has also been fired.

This is starting to sound like a Monty Python sketch.

Hellbound 13th March 2018 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12216113)
The Happiest Man in America!

Meanwhile, the State Department official who contradicted the official White House story of the firing has also been fired.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark F (Post 12216127)
This is starting to sound like a Monty Python sketch.

This administration will now be completed, at last minute and great expense, in an entirely different style:

New Secretary of State: Chuck Llama Jones

ETA: Thinking in a different direction, I wonder if someone could make some cash by offering a combo deal on a horse and a fiddle...

The Great Zaganza 13th March 2018 10:52 AM

For Trump's sake I hope he has a working NDA with Tillerson - otherwise the man has probably more to say than just "*********** Moron".

ponderingturtle 13th March 2018 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12216136)
For Trump's sake I hope he has a working NDA with Tillerson - otherwise the man has probably more to say than just "*********** Moron".

Secretary of State can not be bound by an NDA. He would of course be bound by what is or is not classified. But you can not have an NDA with official staff, only campaign staff.

Stacko 13th March 2018 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark F (Post 12216095)
Correction. Trump says he told Tillerson on Friday. Trump makes stuff up.

According to a release from State Department Under Secretary Steve Goldstein, Tillerson didn't find out about his removal from the president and it appears that he may have heard the news through Trump's tweet.

"The Secretary did not speak to the President and is unaware of the reason, but he is grateful for the opportunity to serve, and still believes strongly that public service is a noble calling,"

So Tillerson got his bad news from the White House the same way the rest of us do, in a 4am Presidential bathroom tweet.

Tillerson said he received a call from Trump around noon today, from Air Force One, more than three hours after WaPo alert and Trump tweet announcing his firing.

CapelDodger 13th March 2018 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacko (Post 12215748)
I'm surprised he survived calling Trump a moron.

I guess he's been on borrowed time since then. He couldn't be fired when the "copulating moron" thing was fresh news; now it can be associated with his anti-Russian comment, which is fine with Trump - it sends Vlad the right message.

From what I hear on Pompeo, war with Iran just came a lot closer. Trump's in a bit of a bind there, though, because Vlad's approval isn't a given.

The Great Zaganza 13th March 2018 11:34 AM

Pompeo is probably acceptable to Putin , since he is sure to drive US allies even further away than Trump alone has managed to far.

CapelDodger 13th March 2018 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 12216024)
The BBC World Service introduced the Tillerson Story with, "it's been almost 7 full days since the last high-level aide left the White House..."

Sweet.

Hellbound 13th March 2018 11:36 AM

Does anyone else find the similarity between Pompeo and Pompeii an ominous omen?

:D

tyr_13 13th March 2018 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyr_13 (Post 12216036)
Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12216113)
The Happiest Man in America!

Meanwhile, the State Department official who contradicted the official White House story of the firing has also been fired.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark F (Post 12216127)
This is starting to sound like a Monty Python sketch.

The best subtitles!

Mark F 13th March 2018 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapelDodger (Post 12216203)
I guess he's been on borrowed time since then. He couldn't be fired when the "copulating moron" thing was fresh news; now it can be associated with his anti-Russian comment, which is fine with Trump - it sends Vlad the right message.

Well, now we know what it takes to get fired at the White House. You can call Trump a copulating moron all you want, but trash talk the Russians and you are out within 24 hours.

All hail President Putin!

a_unique_person 13th March 2018 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12215867)
Am I missing something here?

As more and more people get booted out of the White House because of problems with getting their security clearances. shouldn't that make keeping Ivanka and Jared even more difficult?

Trump is going to end up as Tiberius at Mar a Lago.

dudalb 13th March 2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 12215788)
Gee whiz!

Rex Tillerson has finally got the boot and I am surprised that it has taken this long.

And by the way, due to the numerous State Department resignations in the last several months I sure hope that the last person to leave the State Department building will remember to turn out the lights.

Who needs diplomacy when you have Trump and a Big Military?

I see lots of body bags coming home in the future...

dudalb 13th March 2018 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark F (Post 12216324)
Well, now we know what it takes to get fired at the White House. You can call Trump a copulating moron all you want, but trash talk the Russians and you are out within 24 hours.

All hail President Putin!

Who would have thought we would fight the second war of Independence against the Russians?
Red Dawn for real...

dudalb 13th March 2018 04:20 PM

And the purge might just be beginning. Many commentators are saying Trump wants everybody who is not a blind follower of him out of the White House and upper ranks of the government.
SO Trump can rule with his gut feelings, and not be bothered with experts who disagree with him.
I think the term "Catastrophic Results" will be applicable to the result.

Norman Alexander 13th March 2018 05:42 PM

You don't even want to be the one holding the phone for Tillerson. Loyalty in Donny's White House has a price...dismissal.

Quote:

Then came the tweet, shown by a senior aide to Tillerson. Steve Goldstein, the under-secretary for public diplomacy and public affairs, issued a statement that said: “The secretary did not speak to the president this morning and is unaware of the reason, but he is grateful for the opportunity to serve, and still believes strongly that public service is a noble calling and not to be regretted.”

Goldstein also said Tillerson had “every intention of staying”. A few hours later Goldstein himself was dismissed, apparently for publicly contradicting the White House.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-donald-trump

Craig4 13th March 2018 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12216536)
And the purge might just be beginning. Many commentators are saying Trump wants everybody who is not a blind follower of him out of the White House and upper ranks of the government.
SO Trump can rule with his gut feelings, and not be bothered with experts who disagree with him.
I think the term "Catastrophic Results" will be applicable to the result.

I'm guessing he's scared of the 25th Amendment.


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