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Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11960272)
Do you sincerely believe the world is more likely to become a better place with Bannon in the White House instead of the hospital?

That is not relevant as such, what is relevant that you wish for it and it includes a human getting worse. I thought you want a better world?!! Then why wish ill on another human? Bannon is also a human, albeit a bad one.

Darat 16th August 2017 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11959592)
Changing my vote back to Bannon.

It looks like one of those Confederate statues may have been his final horcrux.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f9c0eb21bb.jpg

Is that a doctored photo?

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 11960362)
Is that a doctored photo?

Yes, by the Onion. :)

d4m10n 16th August 2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960311)
That is not relevant as such, what is relevant that you wish for it and it includes a human getting worse. I thought you want a better world?!! Then why wish ill on another human?

Because he is actively making the world worse on a daily basis. Why should we wish him good health?

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11960379)
Because he is actively making the world worse on a daily basis. Why should we wish him good health?

Because we believe in humans, want a better world for all and that includes Bannon. If you cut him, he bleeds. He is a human like you and I.

d4m10n 16th August 2017 01:07 PM

If you truly want a better world for all, Tommy, you may want to reconsider whether having white nationalists in power and in good health is really helping out with your project.

fuelair 16th August 2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960406)
Because we believe in humans, want a better world for all and that includes Bannon. If you cut him, he bleeds. He is a human like you and I.

I believe some humans want a better world FOR ALL, but Trump, Bannon, the basket of deplorables and their ilk, the white onlies and all their relations are not among them. Would love to send them all to Mars to do their best there. For the few days or hours they would survive. That those bleed if cut (etc.) is fine, but their minds are dead and useless for any real human advancement.

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fuelair (Post 11960426)
I believe some humans want a better world FOR ALL, but Trump, Bannon, the basket of deplorables and their ilk, the white onlies and all their relations are not among them. Would love to send them all to Mars to do their best there. For the few days or hours they would survive. That those bleed if cut (etc.) is fine, but their minds are dead and useless for any real human advancement.

So you hate the right and wonder why they won't listen to you, right?

The Don 16th August 2017 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 11960225)
If you think America is dead as a democracy, just say so.

What makes you think that I do ?

IMO Trump would be far happier if he was allowed to Tweet to his heart's content, issue Executive Orders and be told how successful he is whilst the messy business of day to day government is done by the GOP - but Trump gets to complain when it goes wrong from his perspective.

dudalb 16th August 2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11960417)
If you truly want a better world for all, Tommy, you may want to reconsider whether having white nationalists in power and in good health is really helping out with your project.

Yeah, being sympathetic and understanding toward Nazis really works well.
Turned out really good for Neville Chamberlane in 1938.

dudalb 16th August 2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960454)
So you hate the right and wonder why they won't listen to you, right?

If you want to sing "Kumbaya" and embrace abunch of Nazis and Klansmen in hopes of making them see the error of your ways, good luck. Me, I will depend upon a sock full of s--t a la Woody Allen in "Manhatten".

Tommy Jeppesen 16th August 2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 11960515)
If you want to sing "Kumbaya" and embrace abunch of Nazis and Klansmen in hopes of making them see the error of your ways, good luck. Me, I will depend upon a sock full of s--t a la Woody Allen in "Manhatten".

I am not demanding of you that I become me. I am trying to understand you and see where there are overlaps and differences.

So the Neo-Nazis, the KKK and so on are nothing different like Hitler and WWII. Okay.

Cl1mh4224rd 16th August 2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 11960362)
Is that a doctored photo?

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960366)
Yes, by the Onion. :)


It is the first (and only other) place I've seen it: Nervous Steve Bannon Binge-Eats Entire Class Of Interns Amid Calls For Removal.

fuelair 16th August 2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960454)
So you hate the right and wonder why they won't listen to you, right?

Why do you think I care if they listen? I have no interest in what they think their problems are and none in their upkeep/existence.

quadraginta 16th August 2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy Jeppesen (Post 11960454)
So you hate the right and wonder why they won't listen to you, right?


Do you think they'd listen if they weren't hated?

Do you really think that matters to them?

PhantomWolf 16th August 2017 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 11956970)
It's not safe for my brain! There's a picture of Trump in it! Shame on you linking to such terrible material!

At least he wasn't naked. :p

The Don 17th August 2017 12:09 AM

Apparently Steve Bannon has dubbed white nationalists clowns

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The chief White House strategist Steve Bannon has attacked white nationalists as "clowns" as the fallout from violent protests in Charlottesville continues.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40958329

It's not clear to me whether he is calling all white nationalists clowns or whether he's just criticising the bunch in Charlottesville for being incompetent white nationalists...

TheSupermeerkat 17th August 2017 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 11961101)
Apparently Steve Bannon has dubbed white nationalists clowns

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40958329

It's not clear to me whether he is calling all white nationalists clowns or whether he's just criticising the bunch in Charlottesville for being incompetent white nationalists...



The latter I'm sure, as giving these people the benefit of the doubt just doesn't work.

Trebuchet 17th August 2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 11961101)
Apparently Steve Bannon has dubbed white nationalists clowns



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40958329

It's not clear to me whether he is calling all white nationalists clowns or whether he's just criticising the bunch in Charlottesville for being incompetent white nationalists...

In the same interview he didn't know he was giving, he correctly says there's no military solution to North Korea.

Beelzebuddy 17th August 2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 11961704)
In the same interview he didn't know he was giving, he correctly says there's no military solution to North Korea.

The whole interview is full of gems where he claims to discover what everyone else has been saying for decades.

The Don 17th August 2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy (Post 11961710)
The whole interview is full of gems where he claims to discover what everyone else has been saying for decades.

So like Trump discovering Lincoln was a Republican or applying the phrase "priming the pump" to economics for the first time :rolleyes:

dudalb 17th August 2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 11961101)
Apparently Steve Bannon has dubbed white nationalists clowns



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40958329

It's not clear to me whether he is calling all white nationalists clowns or whether he's just criticising the bunch in Charlottesville for being incompetent white nationalists...

More a case of Bannon's Covering His Ass since his opponents in the GOP are making him the fall guy for Trump's horrendous handling of Charlottesville. Classic Bureaucratic move.
Or maybe Bannon has decided that his support of Overt White Nationalism has become counter productive, and now he is trying to discard them as having served their purpose.

dudalb 17th August 2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 11961109)
The latter I'm sure, as giving these people the benefit of the doubt just doesn't work.

Or maybe he just saw the White nationalist as a useful political tool, but now they have become a drag on his agenda, and time to throw them to the Wolves.

d4m10n 17th August 2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd (Post 11960592)
It is the first (and only other) place I've seen it: Nervous Steve Bannon Binge-Eats Entire Class Of Interns Amid Calls For Removal.

Sorry for creating the impression that photo may have been real. Bad skeptic.

In related news, my chips are still on Bannon: https://news.vice.com/story/steve-ba...=vicenewsfbads

Oystein 17th August 2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 11962033)
In related news, my chips are still on Bannon: https://news.vice.com/story/steve-ba...=vicenewsfbads

I was hoping for a scaramucci, but this ain't one. The Mooch blundered big time: He was caught by rude emotions while not understanding the rules of talking with the press.
Bannon called with a clear agenda, apparently calmly and prepared, with a message he wanted to get out.

I'd call it a gamble: He is there actually spelling out a long-term strategy - and that is his job!
His base ideology - economic nationalism - may be de-facto a bad idea (measure by "will it actually further its stated objectives"), but it is not vile. the Nation is a real thing, and it is generally regarded and often cherished as something positive. The US nation is different from other nations in terms of constitution, history and of course economy, and that is a good thing; and it is, a priori, perfectly legitimate to think about ways to make differences work in one's own favour. Assuming that Bannon honestly believes trade wars benefit the national economy, then he is rational and well-meaning. Calling opposition press and explaining one's strategy is a thing I wish governments would do frequently and openly.

I think Bannon is gambling. Taking a risk. And hoping that Trump will reward the risk taker over the career politicians.

He has nicely positioned himself against Kelly even, without mentioning Kelly at all.

My money on next one out remains on Kelly.

Darth Rotor 17th August 2017 06:43 PM

Mattis will be the last man standing, some years from now, when all the rest have gone. I think Kelly will be around for a bit, as I don't think he'll want to leave a job half done.

The sooner Bannon is gone, the better.

seayakin 18th August 2017 09:55 AM

Bannon is gone. New York Times

quadraginta 18th August 2017 09:56 AM

Bannon Out!

Winners please collect your money at the cashier's window.

NoahFence 18th August 2017 09:57 AM

Up next....

Donald J Trump himself.

Oystein 18th August 2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 11962185)
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My money on next one out remains on Kelly.

Dayum!!

Gorka next? (Does Gorka have a position in the WH? Other than barking rabid dog?)

dudalb 18th August 2017 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 11963516)
Dayum!!

Gorka next? (Does Gorka have a position in the WH? Other than barking rabid dog?)

Irony is that even the other members of the Bannon wing of the White House thought Gorka was an idiot and tried to get him transferred to another Govenrment agency, but no other agency wanted him.......

dudalb 18th August 2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 11963516)
Dayum!!

Gorka next? (Does Gorka have a position in the WH? Other than barking rabid dog?)

It will be interesting how many of the Bannon crowd leave. I suspect that Miller is safe since he has built his own power base, and I would not be surprised if Miller stabbed Bannon in the back in th White House wars.

Stacko 18th August 2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Oystein (Post 11963516)
Dayum!!

Gorka next? (Does Gorka have a position in the WH? Other than barking rabid dog?)

Director of the Office of Public Liaison George Sifakis was next.

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PLAYBOOK SCOOP -- ON HIS WAY OUT AT THE WHITE HOUSE -- GEORGE SIFAKIS, director of the Office of Public Liaison, is leaving the White House, according to multiple administration sources. A White House spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. Sources familiar with situation said White House started looking for candidates to replace him in early August. Sifakis is a close ally and personal friend of former chief of staff Reince Priebus.

Crossbow 18th August 2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 11939395)
I expect that Sessions will be the next major player to get the boot.

Well, I am wrong about Trump again!

I was sure that Sessions would have been the next one to get his walking papers, but instead it is Bannon who got the boot.

portlandatheist 18th August 2017 10:19 AM

All this crisis, chaos, drama, and back stabbing really keeps you at the edge of your seat. All the good qualities of great reality TV.

d4m10n 18th August 2017 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 11963502)
Bannon Out!

Winners please collect your money at the cashier's window.

Woo hoo!

One last link before we forget him: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/g...-steve-bannon/

d4m10n 18th August 2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by portlandatheist (Post 11963556)
All this crisis, chaos, drama, and back stabbing really keeps you at the edge of your seat. All the good qualities of great reality TV.

Sometimes the people really do get what they voted for...well people in key swing states at least.

dudalb 18th August 2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by portlandatheist (Post 11963556)
All this crisis, chaos, drama, and back stabbing really keeps you at the edge of your seat. All the good qualities of great reality TV.

"Game of Thrones" also comes to mind.

Belz... 18th August 2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by portlandatheist (Post 11963556)
All this crisis, chaos, drama, and back stabbing really keeps you at the edge of your seat. All the good qualities of great reality TV.

Hell, these last three weeks I've been watching the first 6 seasons of Game of Thrones and it isn't as bloody and entertaining as this ****-show.

Beelzebuddy 18th August 2017 10:47 AM

Well, shoot. I had my marker on Sessions. He's got some real durability for a racist leprechaun.

Who else is left, aside from the members of his own household? At this point the Trump administration seems to be run by interns and interested passers-by.


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