NRA declared a terrorist organization
The NRA has been declared a terrorist organization by a reporter.
Seems reasonable based on the wording of the Patriot Act. |
Shucks, I thought this was going to be about basketball.
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What a stupid, stupid article.
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Points one and two seem to be common knowledge. Point 3, not so much.
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Good attention getter - he'll probably get a ton of hits on the website.
Other than that, it's not much. I'd put it up there with Debbie Schlussel asserting that Jason Alexander is in bed w/ Hezbollah because he made a PSA for an org bringing together Palestinian and Israeli youth (true story, I heard her w/ my own ears) |
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Yup. "Kidnap and murder democracy"? Give me a break.
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They only advocate to make available the tools that make it easier to kidnap and murder.
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This is admittedly silly. They are not terrorists. They are also not "gun advocates". They are more accurately described as a "gun manufacturers lobby" that uses fear and lies to gin up sales and intimidate legislators.
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I have never felt intimidated or thought I had been coerced by the NRA. I get spam e-mail from them occasionally, but usually delete without opening because I assume it's going to be conservative political propaganda and ads for conservation groups wanting donations.
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I am absolutely pro gun control.
I am absolutely against the establishment of any NRA type organisation in New Zealand. I hope we never go down the "right to bear arms" path the way you have in the USA. ....but even I think that is one of the most ridiculous articles on the NRA/Guns that have seen. |
This is just utter nonsense. The NRA, either a gun rights lobby, a shill for firearms manufacturers or something in between depending on your point of view uses the same lobbying techniques that all powerful lobbies do. If spending money to either promote or put down a particular candidate or applying political pressure on members of congress to ensure they vote in a particular manner makes them a terrorist organization then my friends, we have a really big problem because our nation's capitol is filled with terrorists and they are all but running the country.
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I think the gun lobby position has similarities with previous political circle-jerks such as tobacco and automotive safety equipment / environmental impact, but is significantly different to these in regard to the second amendment. Tobacco and autos seem to be getting sorted out, slowly but surely.
I have a handgun by my bed for the same reason that I own lots of other tools; It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. |
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I thought some racist ******* started this thread. |
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A freedom fighter attacks only those who it perceives to be the enemy, and is usually careful not to involve people that it has no fight with. (the Maquis, the Andartes, the Yugoslav Partisans) A terrorist is deliberately indiscriminate. They will will cause as much collateral damage as they can to as wide a group as they can. (the IRA, Al Qaeda, Bader Meinhof) |
I'm not sure the reporter knows the meanings of these words...
Intimidate: to make timid or fearful; to inspire or affect with fear; to deter, as by threats; to dishearten; to abash. Coerce: to use force, threat, fraud, or intimidation in attempt to compel one to act against his will. Quote:
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I'm no supporter of the NRA, but the entire article is absurd. And a very poor argument for a lawyer/spin-doctor to make. |
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Time to grow up and put away the toys. |
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Then, look up federalism. Then, read the IX and X amendments and try to understand them. And enjoy how things are in your land. I don't much care how you all handle firearms there, rule wise, so why is it that you choose to be such a busy body about how we do it? It ain't your business, bud. |
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I am absolutely pro gun control. I think there needs to be a reality check on any NRA type organisation in the US, and new rules instituted. (lobbying groups.) I wish we never go down the "right to bear arms." Or rather, taken it to such an extreme. ....but even I think that is one of the most ridiculous articles on the NRA/Guns that have seen. |
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Fact: In the USA you can carry a concealed, registered handgun on your person if you have a permit to do so. Your constitution guarantees you that right. In NZ, that is illegal. You cannot even be issued with such a permit. Not even a security guard or a private detective can do so. If you are caught carrying a concealed gun, it will be confiscated, your firearms licence will be revoked, and you will go to jail. I am a citizen of the planet and I have a RIGHT to comment on anything I want to, especially on this forum, which is an international one; or are you suggesting that the members of this forum support the concept of the suppression of people who have a different mindset from you!! On this forum, I will comment on what I like, when I like and how I like (within the constraints forum rules) and if you don't like what I have to say, tough biscuit, mate!! (I think that's in your First Amendment somewhere, IIRC) If you you don't like "foreigners" commenting on your domestic affairs, ask JREF Admins to give the forum the ability to create threads that can't be read outside the USA. (Good luck with that one!) And in any case, we have so many Americans coming to live in this country that I do wonder what it is that drives them out of their own. I certainly don't want them bringing their fanatical "gun culture" here!!! |
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It takes quite the fascist to proclaim that anyone donating money against your cause is a terrorist...
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You may not like the idea for yourself personally. That's fine. But to say that because a lot of Americans move to New Zealand, must mean the USA is a horrible place to live. You know that there are an awful lot of NZers that move to and live in the US, right? And from virtually all other countries on the planet? People move around. They migrate. It's what they do. There are push and pull factors, and moving from one place to another is not necessarily because of push factors. From what I hear and see, New Zealand is a lovely country. And no, most Americans are not part of the fanatical "gun culture," either. Quote:
Do note that I never stated they should be outright banned. I merely mentioned "new rules." |
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