Welcome back! I was worried we've lost you forever! (Well, not really :-)). Finally the master again, surely able to fix the mess his apprentice made!

Dear oh dear. CTs are so great at keeping their stories straight, aren't they? :D

It's nice to see a frank admission that you have no interest in actually achieving anything, and were only ever trying to provoke a response. Fortunately, this is one of only a very few remaining places where that still works. The world, as a whole, doesn't care what you think.

Dave

Or, as someone suggested, easier to pose as a lieutenant of Bin Laden and recruit a few fanatics, teach them just enough about flying and get them to hijack some planes using box cutters. No loose ends.

Do you imagine there was a secret plotting meeting, in a hollowed-out volcano naturally, between the US government and its evil co-conspirators (Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, goodness knows who else) where they thrashed out the question of why not just use planes?

And do you suppose when they got to the bit about the purpose of the whole thing being to create an excuse to blast the crap out of Iraq, anyone (maybe the Iraqis) said why frame a bunch of Saudis and no Iraqis then?

It would have been fascinating to be a fly on the wall.

I expect someone was going to bring that up, but was afraid of being dropped into the swimming pool full of piranha.

That's been my go-to mental image for some time: I asked Agent Yankee451 long ago to explain how he'd persuade Dr Evil to fund his incredibly convoluted plot instead of just crashing some frickin' planes.

Even sideshow operations like discovering and suppressing every photograph or video anyone took within several miles of the crashes would involve an impossible number of henchmen and then you'd need a secondary operation to suppress reporting of that one. Just the travel expenses for that, let alone the catering, would be unbelievably expensive compared to, you know, just crashing some frickin' planes.



But none of that matters when a piece of bent cladding looks a bit suspicious to yankee451.

Yankee451 has accidentally destroyed his entire theory here. I'm surprised that you are the only one to pick up on this so far.
I'm not surprised that he ran away, though. Must be rather embarrassing. :D

He came, he saw, he was conquered. But he can't see that.

Yes: they were filmed with cameras, which tend to capture reality. Several videos were made by several people, with a great number of eyewitnesses to the actual crashes whose recollections match the videos.

Your turn.

No masters or apprentices here. I assume you're referring to the way Itchy Boy has made mincemeat out of the so called Skeptics.

Sure he did yankee, sure he did.

What by presenting no evidence only idle speculation, much the same as you do.

The sad thing is that you probably believe he did.

FIFY.

The thread was altered using a mask layer which makes his arguments look bad.

“I’ve cut your arm off!”

“It’s a flesh wound! Have at you!”


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”Mincemeat.” What are you, a Tom and Jerry cartoon?

Meanwhile, you continue to ignore this:

You have, with your own links and information, proven your theory false. Are you going to at least acknowledge it?

Not so, you are a master at making the worse video analysis, and it starts with the great tripod scandal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gpr...ature=youtu.be

Love the use of fictional movies to make your analysis dumber.

:hug8

Poor Steve, losing a special buddy is always tough but buck up lad. There'll be other lunatics. Maybe you should meet up with rubygray in the Pentagon thread. She's a no-planer with theories just as bat **** insane as yours. You two would make a wonderful pair!

Your right. We should all turn in our Skeptic cards for not believing the "official story" because it comes from "them" and accept the version from randoms who insist that "they" used missile technology that doesn't exist now or then, real time video editors that didn't exist then and may not now, plus had the time to get dozens to thousands of shills in the proper place as well as generate the thousands of fake identities and back stories of the supposed dead. And gain the co-operation of our rivals on the world stage. All to accomplish goals they could have done an order of magnitude easier without this ruse, it's so obvious now.

By claiming that actual planes didn't exist despite the overwhelming evidence?

What, were there no one in NYC that morning except paid actors? I get that you get a kick out of imagining fictional scenarios but that doesn't make mincemeat out of reality.

Keeping up the derail - how in the FSM's name did the conspirators in NASA supposedly manage to convince the Soviet Union to take part in the conspiracy?

Well, they were planning on faking their own landing too.

A bit too late, but he probably wouldn't have an answer.

This would require the conspirators to trust their entire operation to many, many people in the broadcasting industry, across many different competing news departments. Why would they want to be that stupid?!

In addition if what yankee believes, why hasn't one of those conspirators leaked the truth of their directives and CGIs in 18+ years

They signed NDAs

People sign them all the time and still spill the beans.

Sure, it's possible. But, why would they risk everything on the signing of a bunch papers, like that?!

Sorry, just trying to come up with something dumber than the proposition.

These were iron clad NDA's. As advanced as the computers in the early 2000's able to render in real time fake, but photo realistic airliners hitting a tower.

Or were they holographic NDA's?

Well, your incredulity doesn't change the damage evidence. What if what you think of as competing news departments are nothing more than the propaganda arm of the military, as the evidence you're avoiding suggests.

What happoens in the Real World when you have a plan with too many moving parts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw

Fuel consumption calculations showed that the extra 90 minutes idling on the ground had made fuel critical for one of the EC-130s. When it became clear that only six helicopters would arrive at Desert One, Kyle had authorized the EC-130s to transfer 1,000 US gallons (3,800 L) from the bladders to their own main fuel tanks, but Republic 4 had already expended all of its bladder fuel refueling three of the helicopters and had none to transfer. To make it to the air tanker refueling track without running out of fuel, it had to leave immediately, and was already loaded with part of the Delta team. In addition, RH-53 Bluebeard 4 needed additional fuel, requiring it be moved to the opposite side of the road.[citation needed]

To accomplish both actions, Bluebeard 3 had to be moved from directly behind the EC-130. The aircraft could not be moved by ground taxi and had to be moved by hover taxi (flying a short distance at low speed and altitude).[21][Note 4] A USAF Combat Controller attempted to direct the maneuver from in front of the aircraft, but was blasted by desert sand churned up by the rotor. As the Controller attempted to back away, Bluebeard 3's pilot perceived he was drifting backward (engulfed in a dust cloud, the pilot only had the Controller as a point of reference) and thus attempted to "correct" this situation by applying forward stick in order to maintain the same distance from the rearward moving marshaller. The RH-53 struck the EC-130's vertical stabilizer with its main rotor and crashed into the EC-130's wing root.[22]

In the ensuing explosion and fire, eight servicemen died: five of fourteen USAF aircrew in the EC-130, and three of the five USMC aircrew in the RH-53, with only the helicopter's pilot and co-pilot (both badly burned) surviving.[Note 5] During the frantic evacuation to the EC-130s by the helicopter crews, attempts were made to retrieve their classified mission documents and destroy the aircraft. The helicopter crews boarded the EC-130s. Five RH-53 aircraft were left behind mostly intact, some damaged by shrapnel. Bluebeards 2 and 8 now serve with the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy. EC-130E Republic 5 which returned successfully, was retired by the USAF in June 2013 and is now on display at the Carolinas Aviation Museum.[23]

With compartmentalization, very few people would know the whole story. That's the way the military works. Remember the Manhattan project?

https://savingplaces.org/stories/sec...istorical-park

Which branch did you serve with? And to what rank? MOS?

Or does your knowledge of how the military works come from the same place your understanding of missile technology?

I don't claim to be an expert at anything. Never been in the military. Furthermore, I am not the subject here.

projection again + no clue what evidence is
 

Projection - you are the master of it, along with trump, and both are CTers, and paranoid.

Damage evidnece of a 767 flying fast. You can't comprehend the kinetic energy impact and earn the meme award, again.

https://i.imgflip.com/3n4p9r.jpg

Paranoia.

Not sure you know what evidence is, as you make up nonsense like missiles and this post due to a paranoid imagination spreading dumb lies.

Then you mention The Manhattan Project, and how did Russia get the bomb? oops, and we used it, and knew about the project - thus it did not remain a secret. Plus during the war hundreds of leaks of the project were made. Darn, you can't make a valid argument if you tried.

Look at your failed analysis starting with the BS of a tripod, and then the fictional movie stuff. There are some insane or clueless people who like your work, the comments are evidence of ignorance on earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gpr...ature=youtu.be
Failed analysis - might want to take this down, it is not nice to make up lies about 9/11

Declassified just like your phantasy belief of the "missiles" into the WTC that no one picked up on radar, no one saw, nor no one filmed crashing into the buildings. That didn't happen, but two planes did crash into the buildings and the evidence fits with an airplane crash, your uneducated untrained eyesight can't recognize the proof.