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ponderingturtle 15th October 2020 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258298)
How come Cummings gets away with £50k unpaid council tax when people have been sent to jail for owing a tiny fraction of that?

It's not what you do it's where you went to school?

Dave Rogers 15th October 2020 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258298)
How come Cummings gets away with £50k unpaid council tax when people have been sent to jail for owing a tiny fraction of that?

I think you're being a bit hard on him. Which one of us hasn't occasionally lost track of how many houses they own for a decade or three?

Dave

The Don 15th October 2020 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers (Post 13258335)
I think you're being a bit hard on him. Which one of us hasn't occasionally lost track of how many houses they own for a decade or three?

Dave

Or converted some outbuildings but forgotten about them.....

Carrot Flower King 16th October 2020 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 13258313)
It's not what you do it's where you went to school?

Hey, I went to school in Durham City too!

Not that one though, but a better one. Cummings went to the one that in my day the lads who failed the 11+, but had wealthy parents, went to...

Darat 16th October 2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258298)
How come Cummings gets away with £50k unpaid council tax when people have been sent to jail for owing a tiny fraction of that?

Text was probably too small for him to read and he didn’t have time to get to his optician.

Squeegee Beckenheim 17th October 2020 12:07 AM

Jennifer Arcuri has admitted that she had an affair with Johnson

Captain_Swoop 17th October 2020 02:46 AM

Johnson didn't tell the truth?

I'm shocked!

Captain_Swoop 17th October 2020 05:49 AM

I’m old enough to remember when paying public money for sex was called corruption and prostitution.

caveman1917 17th October 2020 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13258298)
How come Cummings gets away with £50k unpaid council tax when people have been sent to jail for owing a tiny fraction of that?

"You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship.. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--"
"Oh there you go, bringing class into it again."
"But that's what it's all about, if people only would -"
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I AGREE

Captain_Swoop 17th October 2020 02:10 PM

Ministers should waste no time to make unpopular cuts to pensioner benefits, a think tank director has said.

Many of those hit by a cut to the winter fuel allowance might "not be around" at the next election, said Alex Wild of the Taxpayers' Alliance.

And others would forget which party had done it, he added.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34439965

Filippo Lippi 18th October 2020 05:23 AM

Still nothing from the Taxpayers Alliance on money being spaffed on the awful Test, Track and Trace system (I checked their website after reading that they are upset about MPs being reimbursed for poppy wreaths).

Squeegee Beckenheim 18th October 2020 06:48 AM

https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/s...22252524326912

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Downing Street has delivered an extraordinary snub to Britain’s first black archbishop by failing to award him an automatic life peerage.
Article embedded in tweet.

Ian Botham is a Lord.

Filippo Lippi 18th October 2020 07:34 AM

I don't really want Sentamu in the Lords, but I don't want Botham or Claire Fox there either. Can they just avoid giving peerages to twats for a bit?

gypsyjackson 18th October 2020 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 13261424)
https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/s...22252524326912



Article embedded in tweet.

Ian Botham is a Lord.

Is it an extraordinary snub? I know former Archbishops of Canterbury tend to be given life peerages when they retire and thus lose their position as a Lord Spiritual, but I don’t recall Archbishops of York being given them. I don’t follow that side of the Palace of Westminster that closely, though, so I may be wrong.

ETA - I correct myself. The previous three Archbishops of York had been given life peerages, so it does seem unusual not to follow that pattern, small sample size aside.

Squeegee Beckenheim 18th October 2020 08:20 AM

FWIW, the reason given was that there are too many Lords.

Captain_Swoop 18th October 2020 09:13 AM

wrong thread

Carrot Flower King 18th October 2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 13261488)
FWIW, the reason given was that there are too many Lords.

And yet there's space for "Lord" Botham of 1981 for services to grouse shooting?

Captain_Swoop 18th October 2020 10:10 AM

Perhaps his smile didn't extend as far as a watermelon for Boris's liking

'too many Lords' but Boris still found room for a Russian Oligarch and Ian bloody Botham!

P.J. Denyer 18th October 2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Filippo Lippi (Post 13261374)
Still nothing from the Taxpayers Alliance on money being spaffed on the awful Test, Track and Trace system (I checked their website after reading that they are upset about MPs being reimbursed for poppy wreaths).

I hope you used your visit to leave a message asking who funds them.

catsmate 18th October 2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13260952)
Ministers should waste no time to make unpopular cuts to pensioner benefits, a think tank director has said.

Many of those hit by a cut to the winter fuel allowance might "not be around" at the next election, said Alex Wild of the Taxpayers' Alliance.

And others would forget which party had done it, he added.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34439965

Ah, the right-wing libertarian nuts are true to form. :rolleyes:

Captain_Swoop 18th October 2020 01:02 PM

Multi-millionaire property developer Tony Gallagher who hosted David Cameron's 50th birthday party has received a knighthood for 'services to land development and the property business.' Gallagher has given the Tories almost £750,000 since Boris Johnson became prime minister.

Captain_Swoop 18th October 2020 02:19 PM

At 9pm on BBC1 was Roadkill, a fictional drama about a ruthless Tory MP who will stop at nothing to achieve his ambitions.
Or you could just watch the news and see the real thing.

P.J. Denyer 19th October 2020 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13261738)
At 9pm on BBC1 was Roadkill, a fictional drama about a ruthless Tory MP who will stop at nothing to achieve his ambitions.
Or you could just watch the news and see the real thing.

I don't watch the News any more, it got too unrealistic when the comic relief became the bad guys (twice, sack the writers!) & now it's just got that 'final season' vibe.

Carrot Flower King 19th October 2020 02:53 AM

2020 as a whole does seem to have been scripted by Charlie Brooker and Armando Ianucci, with additional material from Frankie Boyle.

P.J. Denyer 19th October 2020 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13262150)
2020 as a whole does seem to have been scripted by Charlie Brooker and Armando Ianucci, with additional material from Frankie Boyle.

Based on an idea by Mitchell & Webb

("Hello, Good Evening and Stay Indoors")

KDLarsen 19th October 2020 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gypsyjackson (Post 13261478)
Is it an extraordinary snub? I know former Archbishops of Canterbury tend to be given life peerages when they retire and thus lose their position as a Lord Spiritual, but I don’t recall Archbishops of York being given them. I don’t follow that side of the Palace of Westminster that closely, though, so I may be wrong.

ETA - I correct myself. The previous three Archbishops of York had been given life peerages, so it does seem unusual not to follow that pattern, small sample size aside.

Par for the course. John Bercow is still being denied a peerage as well.

Captain_Swoop 20th October 2020 02:41 AM

A mark of how badly Boris wanted Charles Moore to be BBC chairman is Boris agreed that the salary for the post could rise from £100,000 to £280,000, to match what Moore is paid by the Telegraph even though the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport pointed out that the government’s official position is to reduce pay at the BBC.

Carrot Flower King 20th October 2020 03:42 AM

Johnson wanted to throw money at a mate? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

Mind, he is the man who can't live on 150k and all the freebies he gets and who once described his quarter of a million a year from the Torygraph as "chicken feed", suggesting his grasp of personal finance is loose at best.

Mojo 20th October 2020 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13263483)
A mark of how badly Boris wanted Charles Moore to be BBC chairman is Boris agreed that the salary for the post could rise from £100,000 to £280,000, to match what Moore is paid by the Telegraph even though the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport pointed out that the government’s official position is to reduce pay at the BBC.


The overriding policy, though, seems to be to give money to their mates.

Mojo 20th October 2020 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13263511)
Johnson wanted to throw money at a mate? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

Mind, he is the man who can't live on 150k and all the freebies he gets and who once described his quarter of a million a year from the Torygraph as "chicken feed", suggesting his grasp of personal finance is loose at best.


He might just have a lot of chickens, but I suspect that if he did they wouldn’t do too well. He’d probably plant them too close together.

Captain_Swoop 21st October 2020 01:09 PM

Imagine being an MP and being asked “Do you want kids to go hungry” and you say “Yes, yes I do”

Captain_Swoop 22nd October 2020 10:16 AM

"Black lives matter. We should do something about racism"
"All lives matter!"
"Okay then, let's help refugees"
"We can't afford to do that when there are starving kids right here in the UK!"
"Alright, let's start with feeding kids during the school holidays"
"No! Not that either"

Filippo Lippi 22nd October 2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13265468)
Imagine being an MP and being asked “Do you want kids to go hungry” and you say “Yes, yes I do”

Imagine anyone but a psychopath or a sadist giving that answer.

Jeremy Hunt said they'd have to review again coming up to Christmas, as if half-term is some kind of test run to see how starvation will affect the kids.

Carrot Flower King 22nd October 2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13265468)
Imagine being an MP and being asked “Do you want kids to go hungry” and you say “Yes, yes I do”

One of those - expletives deleted - is mine, not that I would ever vote for her.

I'm not surprised she voted how she did, given how she boasts about how she, as a then school governor, improved special needs provision at a local high school when the opposite is true (I worked with that high school and the old SENCo and the pastoral manager a lot, to the point of pretty much running a weekly clinic there, not that she knew about that...).

Thinks: must ask any Tory canvassers what she has agin local children.

The Don 23rd October 2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13265468)
Imagine being an MP and being asked “Do you want kids to go hungry” and you say “Yes, yes I do”

Now local councils, cafes and restaurants are plugging the gap.

Wudang 23rd October 2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13267909)
Now local councils, cafes and restaurants are plugging the gap.


And McDonalds if offering 1 million free meals worth of funding to the food charity Fare Share. Please note it's not 1 million burgers, they are providing funding to help the charity feed people.


eta: Sample link https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...ty/ar-BB1akro7

Nessie 23rd October 2020 10:21 AM

I get why people are unhappy about parents who live a chaotic lifestyle, such that they do not feed their children properly, but further preventing those children from getting sufficient food is just going to make the situation worse, not better.

Wudang 23rd October 2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nessie (Post 13267928)
I get why people are unhappy about parents who live a chaotic lifestyle, such that they do not feed their children properly, but further preventing those children from getting sufficient food is just going to make the situation worse, not better.


There are an awful lot of parents who are working and still can't afford to feed their children well, especially if their jobs leave them time-poor as well as money-poor.

Or parents who lost their job(s) and then have to wait 6 weeks for benefits and so end up with payday loan sharks and are trapped in a spiral of debt and poverty.

Captain_Swoop 23rd October 2020 12:15 PM

Since the Bishops are trending, here's a fun fact for the day - just 3 countries in the world have law making clerics. The UK, the Vatican and Iran.

Captain_Swoop 23rd October 2020 03:15 PM

Mark Jenkinson Tory MP for Workington tweeted his reason for voting against feeding hungry kids.

@markjenkinsonmp
Here, @AngelaRayner is either being disingenuous or really hasn’t a clue what goes on in her constituency. I hope for the sake of her constituents it’s the former.
I know in my constituency that, as tiny as a minority it might be, food parcels are sold or traded for drugs.
And that’s parcels, not vouchers - which have greater monetary value.


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