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Again it's simple: He's either a dedicated troll or mentally ill. This is not about misunderstanding science this is something else. His claims are: No planes truck the buildings. Missiles struck the buildings. CD was used to finish the job. The Twin Towers were - in fact - empty of people. There are no victims of the attacks of 9/11/2001. All of the footage of the planes striking the towers is fake. All of the eye-witness testimony are lies. Smoke machines at the Pentagon and Shanksville. This is not a guy arguing about how far up the chain of the Saudi Royal Family the AQ funding angle goes, this is not remote controlled commercial jets, this is not LIHOP, this is not dancing Israelis. This is the single dumbest 911-CT ever foisted on the internet, and in a way that's an achievement on its own. Even the 911-Truth message boards have banned him because he makes them look crazy(er). But it's the only thread in town and there are many smart people (not Steve) posting good explanations here so it's not a complete waste of time. |
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And BTW, broadcast delay is not for someone to “be able to react in time to cut to a commercial.” While it’s possible for a technician to take control, network and local breaks are automated. Also, will you continue to describe the jets as “mostly hollow,” slyly (not really) attempting to characterize them as somehow flimsy and therefore unable to penetrate the buildings (leaving aside the meddlesome issue of their impacting at several hundreds of miles per hour)? Quote:
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mind control TV... who has a TV?
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Darn, you wasted a post with how you think television is mind control. Only weak minds fall for the mind control TV stuff... you need help recovering from the mind control? I thought the missiles was silly, but now we have mind control TV in the fantasy mix of woo It appears you are in some self induced mind control, unable to understand what is evidence, and what is fantasy. https://911crashtest.org/greetings-from-steve-deak/ When is the comet coming to save you from the reality of earth? You look like the hale bopp comet guru of woo. Get help with physics and use reality based arguments for stopping wars, stop the lies. Get thee to a physics teacher NOW. Please, for the sake of all. |
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Do you have any actual evidence, beyond a blurred photo you say was faked anyway? Where, for example, do you think the missiles were launched from, and how many were there? Can you prove this? |
Problem with discussing or "debating" especially with truthers and people with alternative beliefs is that of stipulating to the facts of the matter. It's obvious that with Steve he refuses to stipulate of acknowledge what almost everyone accepts and considers to be facts.
Almost all facts are dismissed by substituting them with the notion that everything we "saw" was an illusion and fake production... like watching a Hollywood film which we "accept" as fiction even though it seems real, look real and so on. People understand that this is done for entertainment. There are cases were "re enactments" are produced to mimic real events for broadcast etc. Rational people understand intuitively what is real and what is fiction. And usually not claims of real are made for fiction. What is bizarre in this case is that Steve is claiming that what is presented as real, appears to be real... is simply fiction... no different from all the other produced "shows" we see in the media. But this show is so complex and vast it defies credulity. What Steve is telling us to believe is that we live in a Truman Show. He believes that since we can produce fiction that looks real... that is what was done on 9/11. This is a sign of some type of delusion. One needs to explain who, why and how this reality show was created. Steve has failed on all three. ++++ A frequent point made by truthers over the years was the "cui bono" one. The perpetrators were the ones who benefited most and that is usually pinned on the MIC, the hawks, the deep state.... which of course uses "Islamic militants" as the scapegoat. And the "proof" offered? A supposed flaw in their illusion... materials that defy mechanics and physics... disciplines he has no expertise in (as many don't). Many here have refuted his false claims, but he stubbornly clings to his fantasy. "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time" Not fooling members of this forum. |
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"My wife is a big fan of crime scene reconstruction shows, like CSI and NCIS. Although fictional, and usually heavy with government propaganda, these shows demonstrate crime scene reconstruction to the audience." Well... if somebody is getting his knowledge from shows like this, no wonder he then invents stories fit for SciFi paperback. CSI show is so detached from reality, every real member of this group has to either laugh his head off or throw up every time it is on. But it does seem to have irresistible influence on some people and Steve may be up to something with his TV mind control paranoia :-). |
One of the more interesting... or perhaps the most interesting thing about 9/11 was "mass psychology"... you can see it in truther behavior/responses and in the public in their lust for revenge and war.
Assuming the Islamist suicide bomber types did the deed and they were mostly Saudis why did we attack Iraq with Shock and Awe? The response and support was knee jerk and irrational. Truthers of course assumed it was a "false flag" by the MIC or deep state... and also left the reservation called rational thinking. Trumpism is another extreme expression of the loss of critical thinking and mass psychology. Bernays nailed this almost 100 years ago. |
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https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/...r-1024x648.png https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/...r-1024x578.png https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/...r-1024x581.png Last frame before impact: https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/...r-1024x576.png He was using a tripod. It was staged. This is proof of foreknowledge. It is also more evidence in support of my conclusions, since Naudet's actions fit the explanation I provided perfectly. |
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The bigger the lie, the easier it is for gullible people to believe. |
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Following the crowd doesn't make the crowd right. These are the facts: Something small but not very dense struck at the far left. As it traveled to the right, it became much bigger and much more dense. https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/...s-1024x640.png |
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So how many series of events occurred that resulted in the physical evidence as found?
One. How many "right answers" does that make? One. How many truthers started at the beginning by examining the crime scene? One How many Skeptics started there? Zero |
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Why is anybody even responding to this nonsense? The poster is obviously either a poe or mentally ill. You will never persuade him with evidence or even get him to accept reality. Why he hasn't been banned for spamming this site is ridiculous.
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FAILED fake video claims FAIL
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Photographers captured the plane from as far as 14 miles, using film with negatives that Steve knows how to fake, I guess.
Cumins got 2 shots of the 2nd plane from Montclair, NJ. One was on the cover of People Magazine. Others got 2 shots of the plane, too. Because they saw it coming. Duh. http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit_...obert_A_Cumins |
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You're wrong. Surely you own the DVD and can check for yourself. |
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Naudet was a professional cameraman who was out shooting B-Roll footage of a reported gas leak to get some practice time in with his camera. His camera had image stabilization built in to provide a smooth image. All his footage proves is that he was an experienced cameraman with a quality camera. He shot the footage like any foreigner in NYV would by framing the fire fighters against the tall buildings of the city to give context of scale and setting. Domestic NYC cinematographers tend to focus on people and life on the streets, which we'd see in footage shot later that day. If this is the best you have then you need to understand you're actually going backward and considering you've started from zero evidence you've gone from a clown nose to a clown nose that honks. |
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He's clearly not using a tripod. The first pic the camera is at waist level with the firemen then he goes even lower (about ankle height) for the next two pics. The last pic he has the camera at about head height (on his shoulder?) and has panned the camera upward. And even if he was using a tripod, it wouldn't matter. The camera isn't on lock down, you see. He's still panning around and changing the camera's viewing angle in each shot which rules out your realtime CGI nonsense. And besides, he said he wasn't using a tripod. Maybe you should start with that. I hope you didn't send him any angry letters demanding him to just tell the truth. |
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