Another Nazi egged
This time in New York:
In an extended video which can be found online, he tries to get his flag back (I can't tell whether he succeeds or not) and gets pelted with several more eggs in the meantime before finally running off. Compared to punching Nazis which although funny to watch is difficult for me to condone, egging is a non-violent, non-injurious, and equally funny way for the public to express what they truly think of nazism and those who espouse it. |
Throwing eggs is so chicken ****.
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These are the guys we're supposed to be afraid have been emboldened by Trump's "racism"?
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These are the guys we should be afraid have been emboldened by Trump's racism (no scare-quotes necessary). |
That Nazi is a just a shell of a man now
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Does anyone know what the flag is?
As just from that video I can't see any reference to what he is doing, let alone whether he is just a boring nationalist, uber nationalist, or stretching to Nazi. It just looks red Was it a swastika? |
Probably have completely the wrong end of the stick but weren't people asking why people weren't waving red flags for workers day May 1?
Just asking Unless its old video |
Kind of looks like he is wearing traditional workers clothes to
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Obviously a Nazi though given the video title so oh well
The gentle left will sort them........or their own But then as I say. Maybe I am wrong |
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So a swastika neckless wearing idiot who bothers to May Day Workers rights flag wave dude standing on a street on May day. It's the ultimate stew pot of trolling or weirdness Personally tend to ignore weirdos, but thinking about it, a few eggs ain't going to end the world. Personally think it seems rigged. |
Actually it obviously is
The camera doesn't move at all It is on a tripod Edit: Should have said same position moving round |
So how does this work? Posters tsk tsk punching, but are fine with throwing eggs? Assault is assault, guys. Own your convictions. Unless you are a flaming hypocrite, you would support eggs being thrown by Nazis at you or your loved ones, yes?
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Could one of you supporters of such actions herein just confirm that your'e okay with this as long as his political stance differs from yours? |
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That being said, an egging is a fairly minor crime. I wouldn't be upset if police discretion decided that this isn't worth investigating considering the limited nature of police resources. |
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Why should I care about an egg on his head when he wants to do significantly worse to millions of people? |
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This whiny ******** defense needs to stop. Yes, I'm ok with people that are inherently racist getting egged. Maybe not physically assaulted, but this is pretty harmless. I noticed you and Thermal aren't ******* crying about the people that suffered emotionally from some ******* glorifying people that killed millions. Get the **** out of here with that nonsense. It's weak as hell. |
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Probably still technically assault or battery or whatever, but better than cold cocking.
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When antifa and white supremacists armor up and square off, I fully support that. I argued in favor of punching nazis for the same reasons you and IATS, posted above. The difference is that I acknowledge it is wrong and that I'm down in the gutter with them. What gets under my skin is this attitude that 'we can throw eggys my enemies, but my precious ass is exempt from such treatment.' Cowardice and intellectual dishonesty, plain and simple. You want to join me in the gutter? Great, I'll buy you a drink. Liars uwelcome, though. |
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I see one guy who doesn't like Jews and one guy who is saying assault laws shouldn't apply to some people. It's a nazi race. |
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If wanting to do something is the same as doing it, I'm dating Vin diesel and Wednesday Adams. |
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This looks like a longer version of the video. I wish people would learn to use camera phones horizontally. That's how it looks on most screens, right? Even Game of Thrones did not troll us to that extent; they just made the screen too dark.
Anyway, my own take is that debating people like this is better than smacking people with eggs and getting into a fight. I think the person who starts doing that looks like the person losing the argument, and there is no reason to lose an argument to a Nazi. And yes, the guy has a bloody swastika on his tie, so he is a Nazi, in my opinion. Some people might argue that he was never in the National Socialist Party, as members here do when Ernst Rommel is brought up, but anyone with any sense can see the two are easily as much de facto Nazis.
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Let me be clear though, this isn't an "I apply this to my enemies" mindset. This is an "I apply this to Nazi's" mindset. I'm not going to run up and egg my wife because we disagree on if there should be butter in ******* Macaroni and Cheese. This person shouldn't be "my enemy", they should be everyone's enemy. The reason I apply this to Nazi's and not others is because their point is irrational, and debating them is ridiculous. It's been done ad nauseum with absolutely no gain. These people are ignorant. Quote:
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My opposition to punching is purely on strategic grounds, not because I find it to be an immoral act against the nazi. That is to say, the nazi is not a "victim of political violence" in the way we normally think of it (like Heather Heyer was). Being punched allows the nazi to paint himself as a victim. Getting egged paints the nazi as a doofus. |
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There's a reason why violent threats are taken seriously by law enforcement. When those threats are on a significantly larger scale, they should be taken significantly more seriously. |
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I'm not suggesting that throwing an egg at someone isn't a crime, I'm suggesting that it is a crime that would be treated as low stakes by the authorities. |
I would love to know the success rate of various deradicalization methods for people deemed to have extremist views or behaviour.
Are dehumanizing methods like violence, assault, verbal abuse, harassment, deplatforming, evicting, job firings, vandalism, theft, removing any means of being self-sufficient, etc. proven to be effective? Are humanizing methods like exposing them to people and concepts they fear, showing them compassion and kindness, attempting to understand why they personally developed those ideas or found refuge with extremist groups, etc. not shown to be as or more effective? I've certainly come to understand that the latter methods were more effective from all the movies, documentaries, books, and such that I have come across. The former methods seem to lead people further down the path of extremism. I would just like to see if there are any scientific studies to support that notion. |
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Now a bit of egg on your face that is terrifying. |
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