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Minoosh 4th September 2020 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13212828)
There is a profoundly simple way to determine the truth.

In Trump’s next press conference say “I want to give you an opportunity to silence your critics. They say you called the military members who died during war losers and suckers. Would you tell us how you really feel towards America’s soldiers, sailors, and marines who died defending Europe?”

Only a chucklehead or a sociopath could fumble a softball question like that.

Only a loser would die defending Europe.

Captain_Swoop 4th September 2020 09:23 PM

Trump Retweeted

Matt Schlapp
@mschlapp
The Losers and Suckers work for the Atlantic.
They are colluding w the socialists to stop Trump.
The more the swamp and the establishment fight dirty the more Trump is revered by Americans.
1000s more MAGA flags went up today

This election is much more than a decision between
@JoeBiden & @realDonaldTrump. This election determines whether America will continue to serve as a beacon of freedom around the world or fall for the empty promises of socialism. It’s #AmericaVsSocialism.


@PamBondi is disgusted by the socialist, big city mayors refusing to allow @realDonaldTrump to help protect American citizens as rioters run roughshod over their cities. Hear more from our conversation on today’s #CPACLive

Captain_Swoop 4th September 2020 09:28 PM

Trump retweeted

Sharyl Attkisson
@SharylAttkisson
He is the only president to be the subject of false news stories by by NBC and Newsweek that each claimed he was golfing or otherwise ignoring the troops on different holidays when he was actually flying to spend the holiday with the troops in a combat zone.

“President Trump Is Only the Third US President to Spend Thanksgiving with US Troops in a Combat Zone or US Troops Anywhere.” (President George H. W. Bush spent Thanksgiving in Iraq in 1990. His son President George W. Bush spent Thanksgiving in Iraq in 2003.)

Melania Trump Became the First First Lady to Spend Christmastime Visiting US Troops in a War Zone. (Thanksgiving, too.)
Trump Is First President Since George W. Bush to Spend Thanksgiving with the Troops in a Foreign Country.

Trump Is the Only US President to Visit the Troops in a Combat Zone So Close to Christmas Day.

President Trump Is the Only US President in History to Visit US Troops Both in a Combat Zone on Thanksgiving and So Close to Christmas.

In fairness, did you know the following that nobody reported?
Trump Is One of Only Three US Presidents to Spend Thanksgiving Day with US Troops in a Combat Zone. (The other 2 were President George H. W. Bush & President George W. Bush.)

He is the only president to be the subject of false news stories by by NBC and Newsweek that each claimed he was golfing or otherwise ignoring the troops on different holidays when he was actually flying to spend the holiday with the troops in a combat zone.

He is also under attack by pharmaceutical industry for his landmark executive order that says US pharma companies have to give Americans the same price for prescription medicine that they give foreigners. Right now, I many cases, we pay exponentially more in US.

Trump's actions and talk of ending Afghan war and drawing down troops in Germany have not made him popular among the powerful networks of defense/intel contractors & military officials who support the system that makes billions of $$ off of the status quo.

More about all of that in my new book SLANTED: HOW THE NEWS MEDIA TAUGHT US TO LOVE CENSORSHIP AND HATE JOURNALISM.

Captain_Swoop 4th September 2020 09:31 PM

Trump Tweets

Thank you Mark!
Quote Tweet

MARK SIMONE
@MarkSimoneNY
I remember when President Trump met a veteran wounded so badly that he had no arms. The President reached out and touched his face so he would feel the human contact. #trump #MAGA #Veterans #VeteransForTrump

Captain_Swoop 4th September 2020 09:34 PM

Trump Tweets

First Lady Melania Trump Hits Back: ‘The Atlantic Story Is Not True‘ https://breitbart.com/politics/2020/...y-is-not-true/ via @BreitbartNews

Captain_Swoop 4th September 2020 09:35 PM

Trump Tweets

Jennifer Griffin of Fox News Did Not Confirm ‘Most Salacious‘ Part of Atlantic Story https://breitbart.com/2020-election/...tlantic-story/ via @BreitbartNews
All refuted by many witnesses. Jennifer Griffin should be fired for this kind of reporting. Never even called us for comment. @FoxNewsis gone!

Exclusive: Nearly 700 U.S. Veterans Issue Open Letter in Support of Trump https://breitbart.com/politics/2020/...port-of-trump/ via @BreitbartNews Thank you! As we get closer and closer to the November 3rd Election, and as my poll numbers rocket up, the attacks get more and more vicious. I love our HEROES!

The Great Zaganza 4th September 2020 09:39 PM

Of course Trump said that.
And of course he didn't really mean it, because he just doesn't care at all.

Trump just can't stand praising anyone or have anyone praised in his presence: for him, respect is a zero-sum game, and because he can't earn any for himself, he has to tear everyone else down below his level to feel taller.

Cain 4th September 2020 09:51 PM

"[Vietnam] was a stupid war. Anyone who went was a sucker." -- Donald J. Trump

I'm inclined to agree, but a lot of men were drafted. Otherwise, shouldn't Trump-supporters find this this refreshingly anti-PC? Of course, Trump comes at it from the perspective of pure self-interest, so the people who died are not only suckers but "losers." The killing anyone signed up for is moot.

Bob001 4th September 2020 10:05 PM

Trump trashes Kelly.
Quote:

President Trump on Friday denounced former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly as a “tough-guy” who “didn’t do a good job” and got fired.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/trump-...en-john-kelly/

dann 4th September 2020 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13212863)
Trump Tweets

Thank you Mark!
Quote Tweet

MARK SIMONE
@MarkSimoneNY
I remember when President Trump met a veteran wounded so badly that he had no arms. The President reached out and touched his face so he would feel the human contact, and then we all stared in awe as the veteran's arms miraculously grew back. #trump #MAGA #Veterans #VeteransForTrump


FTFY.

Skeptic Ginger 4th September 2020 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13212849)
Trump Tweets

Thank you to our wonderful First Lady!
Quote Tweet

Melania Trump
@FLOTUS
US government account
.@TheAtlantic story is not true. It has become a very dangerous time when anonymous sources are believed above all else, & no one knows their motivation. This is not journalism - It is activism. And it is a disservice to the people of our great nation.

:dl:

Minoosh 4th September 2020 10:28 PM

Of course the story is plausible. And IMO that's a problem for Trump. I think anyone who knows him can well imagine that he said such things. One thing I do wonder, why is the story coming out now? These events took place months or years ago.

ETA: That said, I believe every word of it.

Minoosh 4th September 2020 10:33 PM

From a tweet posted above:
Quote:

“President Trump Is Only the Third US President to Spend Thanksgiving with US Troops in a Combat Zone or US Troops Anywhere.” (President George H. W. Bush spent Thanksgiving in Iraq in 1990. His son President George W. Bush spent Thanksgiving in Iraq in 2003.)
It's probably going to bug the hell out him to acknowledge that he's only the third president to spend Thanksgiving in a war zone.

Stacyhs 4th September 2020 10:45 PM

It was probably the happiest Thanksgiving Melania's had since she's been married.

Stacyhs 4th September 2020 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13212867)
Trump Tweets

Jennifer Griffin of Fox News Did Not Confirm ‘Most Salacious‘ Part of Atlantic Story https://breitbart.com/2020-election/...tlantic-story/ via @BreitbartNews
All refuted by many witnesses. Jennifer Griffin should be fired for this kind of reporting. Never even called us for comment. @FoxNewsis gone!

Exclusive: Nearly 700 U.S. Veterans Issue Open Letter in Support of Trump https://breitbart.com/politics/2020/...port-of-trump/ via @BreitbartNews Thank you! As we get closer and closer to the November 3rd Election, and as my poll numbers rocket up, the attacks get more and more vicious. I love our HEROES!

If you consider a 43.5% approval rating 'skyrocketing up'.

KDLarsen 5th September 2020 01:20 AM

Another one from the "Mandatory pointless lie about a trivial thing"-file:
Quote:

“Trump claims he "called home, I spoke to my wife and I said 'I hate this. I came here to go to that ceremony.' And to the one that was the following day which I did go to. I said I feel terribly. And that was the end of it."
Facts First: Melania Trump was on the same trip with the President and was scheduled to attend the cemetery visit. She was not in the US.“
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/04/p...eck/index.html

Orphia Nay 5th September 2020 01:37 AM

Looking into this, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of the Atlantic "suckers and losers" alleged quote.

Nobody has said they were there to hear it, and it wasn't written by anyone.

I'm disappointed by The Atlantic.

Aridas 5th September 2020 01:45 AM

Trump orders crackdown on federal antiracism training, calling it 'anti-American'

Memo directs officials to identify spending related to training on ‘critical race theory’ and ‘white privilege’


Quote:

Donald Trump has directed the Office of Management and Budget to crack down on federal agencies’ antiracism training sessions, calling them “divisive, anti-American propaganda”.
Diversion time?

Ladewig 5th September 2020 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13212863)
Trump Tweets

Thank you Mark!
Quote Tweet

MARK SIMONE
@MarkSimoneNY
I remember when President Trump met a veteran wounded so badly that he had no arms. The President reached out and touched his face so he would feel the human contact. #trump #MAGA #Veterans #VeteransForTrump

So many responses.

A. And then the whole bus cheered.1

B. And then the woman sailor said, “please stop touching me, you creepy creep.”

C. And then the sailor’s arms grew back, because, you know, God sent Donald Trump to do His work here in America.

D. And a photographer began focusing his camera, but President Donald J Trump said in a clear, strong voice, “Stop. Your presence cheapens this moment. Leave.”

E. And then Donald Trump asked the soldier. “Are you thirsty? Because I can hold up a glass of water for you. Hold it up in one hand?

F. And then the airman said, “America wants your face on Mt. Rushmore, Mr. President, sir. And we don’t mind at all that the rain prevented you from visiting that cemetery and besides all those Europeans are freeloaders anyway.”



........
(1) the kids use this phrase to say “there’s a lot of fakiness in that fake story.”

commandlinegamer 5th September 2020 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay (Post 13212986)
Looking into this, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of the Atlantic "suckers and losers" alleged quote.

Nobody has said they were there to hear it, and it wasn't written by anyone.

I'm disappointed by The Atlantic.

Whether true or not, it fits the pattern of pervious behaviour.

But for supporters, if uncorroborated, it may not be enough to change their mind. For those against him, it doesn't change much either.

I would have thought though, with regard to the cemetery, if a US president wanted to visit war graves, heaven and earth would have been moved to make it happen.

The Great Zaganza 5th September 2020 02:25 AM

This belongs in the "Can we can the Trump regime fascist yet" thread.

Pixel42 5th September 2020 02:45 AM

IIRC the story at the time was that Trump had had a flaming row with President Macron, and didn't go to the cemetery because he was sulking in his room.

I have to say both explanations seem equally plausible to me.

Captain_Swoop 5th September 2020 02:53 AM

This seems to have rattled Trump judging by the number of tweets and retweets he pissed out.

The Great Zaganza 5th September 2020 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pixel42 (Post 13213015)
IIRC the story at the time was that Trump had had a flaming row with President Macron, and didn't go to the cemetery because he was sulking in his room.

I have to say both explanations seem equally plausible to me.

Most likely both are true: Trump was looking for a reason not to go and found one.

Captain_Swoop 5th September 2020 03:38 AM

Trump Retweeted
Frank Luntz
@FrankLuntz
“Trump received 28% of the Hispanic vote four years ago. But a fresh national @QuinnipiacPoll⁩ pegged the president’s support with this demographic at 36%.”


Natalie Harp - Text TRUMP to 88022
@NatalieJHarp
We are living a GREAT AMERICAN STORY—only because you are in it, President @realDonaldTrump!
“Every time I think of you, I give thanks to my God” (Philippians 1:3).

Captain_Swoop 5th September 2020 03:39 AM

Trump Tweets

So true!
Quote Tweet

Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022
@TrumpWarRoom

Joe Biden abandoned our veterans who needed care at the VA.
He abandoned our soldiers on the battlefield who were targeted by Iranian terrorist Qasem Soleimani.
He abandoned our military, letting it fall into disrepair.
Joe Biden didn't keep our troops safe.

Crazy Chainsaw 5th September 2020 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13213020)
Most likely both are true: Trump was looking for a reason not to go and found one.

That can't be so your talking about a man who Partnered with a 9/11No Planer who thought the Navy, fired a Cruse missile into. The Pentagon 0n 9/11/2001, to promote an idiot Conspiracy Theory that violated the very Laws of physics against the Commander in Chief of the United States Millitary!
As I told you they would have Murdered you and your whole Family to keep that secret.
Trump's is Just another idiot Conspiracy theorist he believes pro German Crazy Theories about world war one!
He thinks the USA was wrong to be involved.

Captain_Swoop 5th September 2020 04:45 AM

Trump Tweets

Trump Orders Purge of ‘Critical Race Theory‘ from Federal Agencies https://breitbart.com/tech/2020/09/0...eral-agencies/ via @BreitbartNews This is a sickness that cannot be allowed to continue. Please report any sightings so we can quickly extinguish!

Beelzebuddy 5th September 2020 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13213092)
Trump Tweets

Trump Orders Purge of ‘Critical Race Theory‘ from Federal Agencies https://breitbart.com/tech/2020/09/0...eral-agencies/ via @BreitbartNews This is a sickness that cannot be allowed to continue. Please report any sightings so we can quickly extinguish!

I believe I have sighted a sickness that cannot be allowed to continue.

Segnosaur 5th September 2020 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay (Post 13212986)
Looking into this, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of the Atlantic "suckers and losers" alleged quote.

Nobody has said they were there to hear it, and it wasn't written by anyone.

I'm disappointed by The Atlantic.

I don't think you understand the concept of "evidence".

A reporter from a reputable news source (which would include a magazine like the Atlantic) getting similar stories from individuals who would be privy to events is evidence. Perhaps not as strong as audio/video evidence, but it is still evidence none the less.

And Trump's past history (I like soldiers that weren't captured) lends credibility to those accounts.

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Wudang 5th September 2020 05:31 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...orth-joe-biden
Quote:

Elizabeth Neumann, a former assistant secretary of counter-terrorism in the Department of Homeland Security, and Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff in that department, said the account was true, asserting that Trump’s low opinion of soldiers killed and wounded in combat was well known inside the administration.

Segnosaur 5th September 2020 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wudang (Post 13213112)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...orth-joe-biden

Elizabeth Neumann, a former assistant secretary of counter-terrorism in the Department of Homeland Security, and Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff in that department, said the account was true,

What does she know? She just got coffee and was fired because she was bad at her job and was part of the deep state.

Plus she is a woman and probably on her period.



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BobTheCoward 5th September 2020 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wudang (Post 13213112)

See! Sources!

alfaniner 5th September 2020 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13213116)
What does she know? She just got coffee and was fired because she was bad at her job and was part of the deep state.

Plus she is a woman and probably on her period.

And nasty. Don't forget nasty.

thaiboxerken 5th September 2020 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay (Post 13212986)
Looking into this, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of the Atlantic "suckers and losers" alleged quote.

Nobody has said they were there to hear it, and it wasn't written by anyone.

I'm disappointed by The Atlantic.

Are you also disappointed by Fox News and the AP that corroborated the story?

BobTheCoward 5th September 2020 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13213160)
Are you also disappointed by Fox News and the AP that corroborated the story?

They didn't do crap. Repeating a claim without evidence is still a claim without evidence.

thaiboxerken 5th September 2020 06:41 AM

https://www.masslive.com/politics/20...cid=uxbndlbing

Trump cracks down on anti-racism training, calling such traning "divisive, anti-American propoganda."

But he's not a white supremacist.....

Captain_Swoop 5th September 2020 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13213163)
https://www.masslive.com/politics/20...cid=uxbndlbing

Trump cracks down on anti-racism training, calling such traning "divisive, anti-American propoganda."

But he's not a white supremacist.....

From his Tweet on the matter "This is a sickness that cannot be allowed to continue. Please report any sightings so we can quickly extinguish!"

Steve 5th September 2020 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13213163)
https://www.masslive.com/politics/20...cid=uxbndlbing

Trump cracks down on anti-racism training, calling such traning "divisive, anti-American propoganda."

But he's not a white supremacist.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13213165)
From his Tweet on the matter "This is a sickness that cannot be allowed to continue. Please report any sightings so we can quickly extinguish!"

40% of the voters in your country will indicate approval or acceptance of this by voting for him in November. Those voters will include a not insignificant number of visible minorities. Trump is not the big problem in your country. The big issue is the combination of systemic racism and ignorance inherent in so many of your citizens. If Trump loses the election that will not change at all. I have said previously that there is so much hate among Americans. That will not be changed in the foreseeable future regardless of which politicians are elected. It may become less visible but it will still be there. What America needs to do is take on a long term commitment to reduce the hatred.

Mumbles 5th September 2020 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13213163)
https://www.masslive.com/politics/20...cid=uxbndlbing

Trump cracks down on anti-racism training, calling such traning "divisive, anti-American propoganda."

But he's not a white supremacist.....

I'm skeptical of HR training in general, as it's often designed to shield the company from liability more than anything else.

Having said that, the guy who plainly thinks that only white people can be truly American (as shown in, among other issues, his birtherism, his statement that US-born women of color should "go back to whatever country they came from", and his statement that Benjamin Netanyahu is the Prime Minister of US jewish people) mark him as an obvious bigot.

Or to make it simple: I don't know if this training does anything useful, but I know that's not why Dolt 45 is targeting it.


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