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Ladewig 8th October 2020 09:13 AM

Fun facts

Jeffrey Dahmer served longer in the military, was accused of raping fewer women, was responsible for fewer deaths and paid more taxes than Donald Trump.

Horatius 8th October 2020 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13251604)
First the libruls want us to think the world is getting warmer, now they want us to worry about giant chunks of ice... WHICH IS IT SNOWFLAKES? MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.


Not many people know this, but "ICE" is chemicalictally the same as "WATER". So how can a boat designed to sail through water be hurt by this "ICE WATER"? It's just knot logikal! Most people never knew this about warter!

jeremyp 8th October 2020 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Keith (Post 13251613)
I agree that Barr likely won't, but not because of the job. Because I think he knows it would backfire.

It would be so outrageous that they would lose some of the "business" republicans. The folks who are holding their noses for the tax breaks and hoping they land in the right bucket in tariff battles. They may not be able to hold their noses for that kind of BS. "Lock her up" is a motivational battle cry to them, not an actual policy they support. Rich and powerful people being locked up is something they actually fear.

Barr will make more money after he loses this job than he does right now, by a factor of ten times per year. And he will be working far less. This job is about righteousness, not money.

Are you allowed to make money when youíre in prison?

Iím only half joking. I think itís quite possible Barr has broken the law whilst in Trumpís employment.

Captain_Swoop 8th October 2020 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13251620)
Well, remember "LIBERATE MICHIGAN"?

The FBI thwarted what they described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and federal prosecutors are expected to discuss the alleged conspiracy later Thursday.

The alleged plot involved reaching out to members of a Michigan militia, according to a federal affidavit filed Thursday.

"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."


https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/new...er/5922301002/

Trump tweeted in April

LIBERATE MICHIGAN!

alfaniner 8th October 2020 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13251590)
It won't take a significant proportion to shoot up a few abortion clinics or liberal leaning government offices.

(timely)
or capture a Governor.

Captain_Swoop 8th October 2020 10:37 AM

Trump Tweets

If a Republican LIED like Biden and Harris do, constantly, the Lamestream Media would be calling them out at a level never recorded before. For one year they called for No Fracking and big Tax Increases. Now they each say opposite. Fake News is working overtime!

Biden will Shutdown the Economy at the tip of a hat, raise your Taxes, knock out your Second Amendment and Defund, or close, your Police. The Suburbs would be next, get ready. Also, and incredibly, PACK THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. This is not what the USA wants!!! #MAGA

Ladewig 8th October 2020 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13251736)
Trump Tweets

If a Republican LIED like Biden and Harris do, constantly, the Lamestream Media would be calling them out at a level never recorded before. For one year they called for No Fracking and big Tax Increases. Now they each say opposite. Fake News is working overtime!

Biden will Shutdown the Economy at the tip of a hat, raise your Taxes, knock out your Second Amendment and Defund, or close, your Police. The Suburbs would be next, get ready. Also, and incredibly, PACK THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. This is not what the USA wants!!! #MAGA

[sigh]
Iím sure I canít take four more years of that.

JoeMorgue 8th October 2020 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13251902)
Iím sure I canít take four more years of that.

Even if he loses he ain't going away. Fox will snatch him up for a talking head political show at least.

dudalb 8th October 2020 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13251219)
I want to repeat the above because it closely reflects my own view. After the first debate was over I felt ashamed for America.... or ashamed to be an American .... or ashamed of America. All three, I guess.

And never in a way parallel to past shameful actions. The Vietnam War. Jim Crow. Spewing pollution. All these and more were shameful but were bad policy choices that led to bad actions. But with Trump somehow the shame became personal. It hit home like nothing else, like I was a part of what was happening, despite myself.

As xjx388 noted, the worse is not all the laws Trump has broken or his many, many personal faults, the bigger issues are the lack of civility, the childish name calling, the disinterest in the success of our democratic experiment, being president for only his base and so on. He campaigned on bring out the worst of us, not the best. He's allowed racism and white nationalism to exist on the public stage.

As Thomas Paine wrote in December, 1776, "These are the times that try men's souls." They are, indeed.

The other Founding Fathers quote thart applies id Benjamin Franklin;s statement when , at the constituional convention someone asked him what kind of Government the US would have:
"A republic...if you can keep it".

alfaniner 8th October 2020 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13251736)
Trump Tweets

If a Republican LIED like [I claim] Biden and Harris do, constantly, the Lamestream Media would be calling them out at a level never recorded before.
For one year they called for No Fracking and big Tax Increases. Now they each say opposite. Fake News is working overtime!

Biden will Shutdown the Economy at the tip of a hat, raise your Taxes, knock out your Second Amendment and Defund, or close, your Police. The Suburbs would be next, get ready. Also, and incredibly, PACK THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. This is not what the USA wants!!! #MAGA

He does. And they do.

dudalb 8th October 2020 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13251581)
Trump will lose his political power as a lame duck.

But the support of the ~40% of American voters who make up his cult will (might) remain strong as ever.

Trump is very much a messianic figure to some people
. They will not go gentle into that good night.

So was Hitler
So Was Stalin.
So Was Mao.
Being a messianic figure seems to be par for the course for modern day dictators.
I

Aridas 8th October 2020 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13251923)
Even if he loses he ain't going away. Fox will snatch him up for a talking head political show at least.

Prison may help with that part. He's certainly broken laws like crazy.

Captain_Swoop 8th October 2020 03:40 PM

Trump Retweeted
Pete Gorman
@Pistoltweet86
If the polls are so accurate why are they wanting to use the 25th amendment ?
They can’t wait 3 months ?
They know Trump is gonna win

Chris Nethery
@ChrisANethery
Nope.
Not the 25th amendment.
Elections on November 3rd.
Eyes on the prize and nevermind Twitter's shiny metal distractions.

Captain_Swoop 8th October 2020 03:41 PM

Trump Retweeted

Joe Pags Pagliarulo
@JoeTalkShow
Extremely rich career politician who, out of selfishness, basically pushed a small business owner out of business, is now talking about the 25th Amendment again? When exactly will the dems accept the result of the 2016 election? anyone?

Captain_Swoop 8th October 2020 03:46 PM

Trump Retweeted

Andrew Feinberg
@AndrewFeinberg
(The 25th Amendment does not work that way, and itís also not a ďcoupĒ to use it)
Quote Tweet

Rep. Mark Green
@RepMarkGreen
I wouldnít put it past @SpeakerPelosi to stage a coup.
She has already weaponized impeachment, whatís to keep her from weaponizing the 25th amendment?
We need a new Speaker! twitter.com/cspan/status/1Ö

Captain_Swoop 8th October 2020 03:47 PM

Trump Retweeted

Judicial Watch
@JudicialWatch
Judicial Watch has filed an official complaint with the Office of Congressional Ethics about Rep. Ilhan Omar potential violations of law. Let us know if you agree that Rep. #IlhanOmar SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED by signing the petition HERE: http://jwatch.us/KdQrkR

.
@JudicialWatch
President @TomFitton: "Senate SHOULD Move Straight to Confirmation Vote on #AmyConeyBarrett!"
WATCH MORE: http://jwatch.us/GSpuVC
#SCOTUS

Stacyhs 8th October 2020 03:50 PM

Trump just works so hard with all that tweeting and calling into Fox. I don't know how he finds the time to eat or golf. He sacrifices so much for us!

Armitage72 8th October 2020 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13252064)
Trump Retweeted

Judicial Watch
@JudicialWatch
Judicial Watch has filed an official complaint with the Office of Congressional Ethics about Rep. Ilhan Omar potential violations of law. Let us know if you agree that Rep. #IlhanOmar SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED by signing the petition HERE: http://jwatch.us/KdQrkR


Judicial Watch filed a complaint? It must be a day ending in "Y".

Horatius 8th October 2020 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13252083)
Judicial Watch filed a complaint? It must be a day ending in "Y".



Have any of their "complaints" ever actually resulted in any investigations, let alone convictions? These guys feel like a less funny Jacob Wohl.

dudalb 8th October 2020 04:46 PM

Still no condemination of the kidnappers from the Trump adnistration. Before Donnie, a denunciation would have been instant from any President of either party.
One can only cncluse that Donnie apporves their actions.

Ladewig 8th October 2020 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13252110)
Still no condemination of the kidnappers from the Trump adnistration. Before Donnie, a denunciation would have been instant from any President of either party.
One can only cncluse that Donnie apporves their actions.

Well, in Trumpís defense, he might not know that 13 were charged in a plot to overthrow a state government.

SezMe 8th October 2020 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny karate (Post 13251610)
It will also be interesting to see how other Republicans deal with this.

On one hand, Trump himself will no longer have political power. On the other hand, Republicans will still have to appease a base that is enthralled by Trump.

Yes, and once having tasted power, they are not going to go back under their rock unless pushed pretty hard.

Cain 8th October 2020 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13252234)
Yes, and once having tasted power, they are not going to go back under their rock unless pushed pretty hard.

This is why it's a good thing if Trump lives for another 15 years. Not only is that plenty of time to be prosecuted and sent to prison, but he's going to be bitching on Twitter non-stop (to more than 80m followers). He doesn't care one bit about the Republican Party as an institution, so he won't care about causing problems for them.

Norman Alexander 8th October 2020 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 13252335)
This is why it's a good thing if Trump lives for another 15 years. Not only is that plenty of time to be prosecuted and sent to prison, but he's going to be bitching on Twitter non-stop (to more than 80m followers). He doesn't care one bit about the Republican Party as an institution, so he won't care about causing problems for them.

He doesn't even care for his own team, really. Consigliere are disposable.

Squeegee Beckenheim 9th October 2020 12:48 AM

https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/statu...89207875371008

Quote:

Democracy isn’t the objective; liberty, peace, and prospefity are. We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that.
That's a Republican Senator admitting that he's opposed to democracy.

The Great Zaganza 9th October 2020 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 13252459)
https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/statu...89207875371008



That's a Republican Senator admitting that he's opposed to democracy.

Democracy is okay, as long as everyone has the right to vote, 'apart from the women, children, slaves, idiots and people who weren’t really our kind of people'.

Firestone 9th October 2020 02:05 AM

In a major upset, the Nobel Peace Prize goes to UN World Food Programme, and not to Trump!

MRC_Hans 9th October 2020 02:27 AM

The Nobel commitee has been in a bit of rough wheather in the latest years. They would have been VERY unlikely to choose Trump anyway, but a local right-wing nut nominating him made it a foregone conclusion.

Hans

Captain_Swoop 9th October 2020 02:35 AM

Trump on Hannity

He claims that the military will soon be delivering whatever drugs he took to get over the coronavirus to hospitals so people can get the same treatment he did for free. (Is there a single person who believes this?)

"California is gonna have to ration water. You wanna know why? Because they send millions of gallons of water out to sea, out to the Pacific. Because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish, that aren't doing very well without water."

"Number one, California should let water come down from the north, and accept it instead of throwing it out to the Pacific. But you always have to have forest management" (Hannity doesn't seem to know how to respond to this)

Sean Hannity: Have you been tested recently?
Trump: Yeah, I just saw the doctors today.
Hannity: Did you test negative?
Trump: Regeneron. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. China virus. Incredible.

"I see Witmer today, she's complaining, but it was our Justice Department that arrested the people she was complaining about, what she's doing is a horrible thing to the people"-

Trump concludes his interview with Hannity by claiming that Mike Pence refusing to commit to a peaceful transition of power during the VP debate was his "best answer" of the night

AnonyMoose 9th October 2020 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13252544)
Trump on Hannity

He claims that the military will soon be delivering whatever drugs he took to get over the coronavirus to hospitals so people can get the same treatment he did for free. (Is there a single person who believes this?)

"California is gonna have to ration water. You wanna know why? Because they send millions of gallons of water out to sea, out to the Pacific. Because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish, that aren't doing very well without water."

"Number one, California should let water come down from the north, and accept it instead of throwing it out to the Pacific. But you always have to have forest management" (Hannity doesn't seem to know how to respond to this)

Sean Hannity: Have you been tested recently?
Trump: Yeah, I just saw the doctors today.
Hannity: Did you test negative?
Trump: Regeneron. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. China virus. Incredible.

"I see Witmer today, she's complaining, but it was our Justice Department that arrested the people she was complaining about, what she's doing is a horrible thing to the people"-

Trump concludes his interview with Hannity by claiming that Mike Pence refusing to commit to a peaceful transition of power during the VP debate was his "best answer" of the night


Translation:

(Pardon me while I use a much loved right-wing catchword to trigger libruls) "Reeeeeeeeeeeee!"

timhau 9th October 2020 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13252544)
Trump on Hannity

He claims that the military will soon be delivering whatever drugs he took to get over the coronavirus to hospitals so people can get the same treatment he did for free. (Is there a single person who believes this?)

SOCIALISM!!!!!!

Aridas 9th October 2020 05:03 AM

To poke at the long running atrocities at the southern border -

One of the most corrupt federal agencies in the U.S. wants to destroy its internal records

CPB, specifically, is petitioning to shorten the timeline for when it's allowed to destroy any incriminating records. Fairly certainly with a quiet emphasis on the kind of records that it has a history of breaking the law to hide from Congress.

Also, further confirmation that the Trump administration wanted border policy to show no mercy: 'We need to take away children'

Add more confirmation that Sessions was involved, despite his later denial - and Rosenstein was, too.

The Great Zaganza 9th October 2020 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13252544)
Trump on Hannity

He claims that the military will soon be delivering whatever drugs he took to get over the coronavirus to hospitals so people can get the same treatment he did for free. (Is there a single person who believes this?)

...


The most terrifying words in the English language are:

I'm from the government and I'm here to vaccinate you.

Armitage72 9th October 2020 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13252520)
In a major upset, the Nobel Peace Prize goes to UN World Food Programme, and not to Trump!


I wonder how long until we get Tweets about how he's done more to relieve hunger than anyone else in history.

JoeMorgue 9th October 2020 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armitage72 (Post 13252723)
I wonder how long until we get Tweets about how he's done more to relieve hunger than anyone else in history.

Well in his defense there's 210,000 people in America who will never go to bed hungry again because of him...

shemp 9th October 2020 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13252544)
Trump on Hannity

He claims that the military will soon be delivering whatever drugs he took to get over the coronavirus to hospitals so people can get the same treatment he did for free. (Is there a single person who believes this?)

"California is gonna have to ration water. You wanna know why? Because they send millions of gallons of water out to sea, out to the Pacific. Because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish, that aren't doing very well without water."

"Number one, California should let water come down from the north, and accept it instead of throwing it out to the Pacific. But you always have to have forest management"
(Hannity doesn't seem to know how to respond to this)

Sean Hannity: Have you been tested recently?
Trump: Yeah, I just saw the doctors today.
Hannity: Did you test negative?
Trump: Regeneron. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. China virus. Incredible.

"I see Witmer today, she's complaining, but it was our Justice Department that arrested the people she was complaining about, what she's doing is a horrible thing to the people"-

Trump concludes his interview with Hannity by claiming that Mike Pence refusing to commit to a peaceful transition of power during the VP debate was his "best answer" of the night

This is particularly "senile old man screaming at nonexistent kids to get off his lawn" crazy.

Crossbow 9th October 2020 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13252544)
Trump on Hannity

He claims that the military will soon be delivering whatever drugs he took to get over the coronavirus to hospitals so people can get the same treatment he did for free. (Is there a single person who believes this?)

"California is gonna have to ration water. You wanna know why? Because they send millions of gallons of water out to sea, out to the Pacific. Because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish, that aren't doing very well without water."

"Number one, California should let water come down from the north, and accept it instead of throwing it out to the Pacific. But you always have to have forest management" (Hannity doesn't seem to know how to respond to this)

Sean Hannity: Have you been tested recently?
Trump: Yeah, I just saw the doctors today.
Hannity: Did you test negative?
Trump: Regeneron. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. China virus. Incredible.

"I see Witmer today, she's complaining, but it was our Justice Department that arrested the people she was complaining about, what she's doing is a horrible thing to the people"-

Trump concludes his interview with Hannity by claiming that Mike Pence refusing to commit to a peaceful transition of power during the VP debate was his "best answer" of the night

Wow!

With a rant like that I wonder if Trump is even aware that hurricane Delta is about to touch down.

Captain_Swoop 9th October 2020 10:23 AM

Trump tweets

Crazy Nancy Pelosi is looking at the 25th Amendment in order to replace Joe Biden with Kamala Harris. The Dems want that to happen fast because Sleepy Joe is out of it!!!

quadraginta 9th October 2020 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13250995)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13250980)
If you want a slightly hopeful thought - Germany has been able to rise again in a vastly better way after the Nazis were defeated thoroughly.

But they had to be destroyed by superior external forces and suffer millions of casualties, be divided, and lose much of their territory. Not a helpful analogy, as far as I'm concerned.


Not to mention that the surviving portion had a relatively benevolent world superpower available to come in, clear out the worst of the malefactors, reorganize the government, restructure the economy, and hold their hand until they became a stable, democratic society.

Not sure who would do that for us.

Canada, mebbe?

Captain_Swoop 9th October 2020 10:27 AM

Trump Tweets

Will be doing show with @RushLimbaughEIB at 12:00 P.M. TALK RADIO. ENJOY!!!


Covid Relief Negotiations are moving along. Go Big!


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