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Doubt 28th May 2018 03:42 PM

Michael Avenatti thread
 
This thread exists to discuss Michael Avenatti and his performance as a lawyer and his general character.

Is he a good advocate and is he corrupt?

d4m10n 28th May 2018 03:48 PM

He seems okay to me.

(I skipped all TBD posts in the other thread.)

PhantomWolf 28th May 2018 03:52 PM

Don't know the man to comment on his general character, but he does seem to being pretty professional as a Lawyer, going for the best deal for his client.

This does seem to be little more than a hit thread though, guaranteed to turn into a bunch of Ad hominem attacks against him, mostly built on pure rumour and speculation.

NoahFence 28th May 2018 03:56 PM

Not sure this belongs in politics to be honest

d4m10n 28th May 2018 04:04 PM

Maybe it does, maybe not.

Depends on whether his previous cases had some particular political or public policy impact.

portlandatheist 28th May 2018 04:09 PM

If his moral character and his abilities are to be in question, then let us be relieved he is not the president of the United States or the president's lawyer.

Doubt 28th May 2018 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12308291)
Maybe it does, maybe not.

Depends on whether his previous cases had some particular political or public policy impact.

Seems he might be considered a political figure. If he is not then I would expect a few changes around here.

thaiboxerken 28th May 2018 06:24 PM

How is this thread supposed to distract from all the nonsense Trump is doing? That is, after all, the primary purpose of attacking Avenatti.

Segnosaur 28th May 2018 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12308389)
How is this thread supposed to distract from all the nonsense Trump is doing? That is, after all, the primary purpose of attacking Avenatti.

I think the point is by creating this thread there won't be the clutter in other threads (particularly the "stormy Daniels sues trump" thread).

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thaiboxerken 28th May 2018 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 12308479)
I think the point is by creating this thread there won't be the clutter in other threads (particularly the "stormy Daniels sues trump" thread).

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Which is disarming the whole point of attacking Avenatti.

Crossbow 29th May 2018 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12308389)
How is this thread supposed to distract from all the nonsense Trump is doing? That is, after all, the primary purpose of attacking Avenatti.

Seconded!

Of course the various stupid, idiotic, lying Trump lackeys would much much rather discuss how horrible Avenatti is for representing porn star Stormy Daniels as opposed to discussing how horrible it was for Trump to cheat on his wife with the porn star Stormy Daniels just after his wife gave birth to his son.

The Trump lackeys have got to be about the most terrible people in the world of politics.

SuburbanTurkey 29th May 2018 07:00 AM

He seems to be a pretty competent lawyer to me. Has been very successful in baiting Trump and his lackeys into speaking in public about issues relating to the lawsuit when they ought to be keeping their mouth shut. Seems to be giving Cohen and Trump all the rope they need to hang themselves.

ahhell 29th May 2018 07:14 AM

He seems to be a pretty competent publicist to me, I have no idea how good a lawyer he is.

TellyKNeasuss 30th May 2018 04:55 AM

He seems to be an effective lawyer and there are reasons to think that he's not above bending the rules. Neither affects the fact that he performed a valuable public service by revealing yet more corruption within the Trump inner circle.

a_unique_person 30th May 2018 05:11 AM

Is Avanetti the type of sleaze bag that would grab a woman by the *****?

SuburbanTurkey 30th May 2018 05:39 AM

Another thing to consider is what Stormy Daniels' goals actually are. She may have concerns other than just winning her lawsuit. For example, thoroughly exposing the foul character of the people attacking her reputation may be her goal, in which case I think her lawyer is doing a fairly good job. They are also dealing with the timing of the myriad of criminal investigations and trials surrounding the Trump organization. Leveraging that to aid their civil claim seems like a good move too.

Dr. Keith 30th May 2018 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 12308791)
He seems to be a pretty competent lawyer to me. Has been very successful in baiting Trump and his lackeys into speaking in public about issues relating to the lawsuit when they ought to be keeping their mouth shut. Seems to be giving Cohen and Trump all the rope they need to hang themselves.

I haven't really looked into the guy, but I think it is fair to point out that TBD seems to be a pretty competent lawyer compared to Cohen.

The Big Dog 1st June 2018 11:29 AM

Michael Avenatti tested legal boundaries as his firm maneuvered into bankruptcy

Patently frivolous involuntary bankruptcy temporarily saves Eagan Avenatti from disaster.

Saved by a mohawked ex-con, who paid cash for a po box, and filed an involuntary bankruptcy the next day using that anonymous address.

Here is the article in today's LA Times...

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...601-story.html

The Big Dog 1st June 2018 12:03 PM

Here is another article breaking today about how "Exclusive: How a 'nobody' ex-con pushed Avenatti law firm into bankruptcy."

Quote:

In court papers, Avenatti's lawyers described Tobin as a "private investigator" who'd performed undisclosed services for Avenatti's firm.

But Tobin, 48, is no private investigator, a CNN investigation found.

He's a convicted felon whose rap sheet is 15 pages long and spans four decades, according to court records. He served time in prison in the early 90s and was arrested on domestic violence charges as recently as February. (He pleaded not guilty and the case is awaiting trial).
Oh yeah, you better believe that Avenatti has this clown locked down as tight as a tick with a Non-disclosure agreement.

He is indeed quite the mohawk aficionado, tho.

Quote:

The filing of the document in the involuntary bankruptcy suit cost $1,717.00 according to a handwritten notation on Tobin's paperwork. Filing a civil lawsuit in state or federal court in Orlando would have cost $400, according to fees listed on court websites.
Wonder where he got the 200 cash for the po box and the 1700 bucks for the filing fee, huh?

I'm guessing Sunny California....

zorro99 1st June 2018 12:04 PM

I hear he likes to race cars which is cool

The Big Dog 1st June 2018 12:19 PM

From the LA Times article linked above:

Quote:

Four days later, Avenatti took a gamble in a reach for quick cash. He filed an emergency request for an extra $3.4 million in payments to Eagan Avenatti from the cemetery settlement fund even though the firm already had received its entire $23.5 million share.
Quote:

In the end, Avenatti signed a court statement admitting he never notified the other parties that he was seeking the money. The court’s order authorizing the $3.4-million payment to Eagan Avenatti was withdrawn.
Damnnnn.... farewell and adieu .....

The Big Dog 1st June 2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Coffee shortages, payment questions, and shocking closures: Former employees at the coffee chain once purchased by Stormy Daniels' lawyer share what it was like to work at Tully's
http://www.businessinsider.com/micha...eak-out-2018-5

Golly, Mike sure has a **** ton of denials to make today, don't he?

#basta baby!

The Big Dog 1st June 2018 02:20 PM

Here is the guy who came up with almost 2000 bucks to tip Michael Avenatti's firm into bankruptcy right before Mike had to sit for his dep, and he did it all by himself, totally without a lawyer at all!

https://twitter.com/finneganLAT/stat...58926653890560

heck of a legal beagle!

The Big Dog 11th June 2018 12:48 PM

Bottom feeder and troll Michael Avenatti went on twitter to request that people swipe Rudy Guilliani's internet browsing habits.

Recall that this was the guy who used a several times over convicted felon to scurry around Florida trying to sign up Pulse Nightclub victims.

what a scumbag

Drewbot 11th June 2018 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by portlandatheist (Post 12308295)
If his moral character and his abilities are to be in question, then let us be relieved he is not the president of the United States or the president's lawyer.

Yes, let us be relieved, because moral character, has always been such an important factor in the elections of our Presidents...

Scootch 11th June 2018 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Big Dog (Post 12323833)
Bottom feeder and troll Michael Avenatti went on twitter to request that people swipe Rudy Guilliani's internet browsing habits.

Recall that this was the guy who used a several times over convicted felon to scurry around Florida trying to sign up Pulse Nightclub victims.

what a scumbag

Would you vote for him if he ran for President?

G6000 11th June 2018 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doubt (Post 12308272)
This thread exists to discuss Michael Avenatti and his performance as a lawyer and his general character.

Is he a good advocate and is he corrupt?

Michael Avenatti is a textbook example of what "fighting fire with fire" looks like.

Trump is reaping what he sowed.

acbytesla 11th June 2018 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootch (Post 12323895)
Would you vote for him if he ran for President?

I don't know enough about Avenatti's political positions to vote for him.

But I would definitely hire him for a media spokesperson or an attorney in a case where a positive media strategy was beneficial.

Squeegee Beckenheim 11th June 2018 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Big Dog (Post 12323833)
Bottom feeder and troll Michael Avenatti went on twitter to request that people swipe Rudy Guilliani's internet browsing habits.

Recall that this was the guy who used a several times over convicted felon to scurry around Florida trying to sign up Pulse Nightclub victims.

what a scumbag

For those interested, these are the tweets in question:

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...80999587909633

Quote:

I want to test Mr. Giuliani’s claims of being adamantly against pornography and having no use for adult film stars. If anyone can provide me with any evidence of him voluntarily viewing pornography, I will protect you as a source and publish it. Let’s PROVE the hypocrisy. #Basta
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...83470625660928

Quote:

The sheer power of the Internet and Twitter never ceases to amaze me...
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...54844351025152

Quote:

Mr. Giuliani: my client deserves an apology for your sexist, disgusting, comments about her and women in general. I strongly suggest you provide one. Are you really taking the position that you have not viewed porn in the last year? Ever hear of something called an IP address?...
Worth noting: The Big Dog is now on record as believing that people who publicly call for hacked information to be used against other people are "scumbag"s.

Perhaps also worth noting: Donald Trump has been in 3 softcore porn videos.

The Big Dog 11th June 2018 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12323988)
For those interested, these are the tweets in question:

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...80999587909633



https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...83470625660928



https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...54844351025152



Worth noting: The Big Dog is now on record as believing that people who publicly call for hacked information to be used against other people are "scumbag"s.

Perhaps also worth noting: Donald Trump has been in 3 softcore porn videos.

Actually the scumbag comment is based on FAR more than that, like hiring an excon to chase down victims of the Pulse Nightclub shooting.

scuzzy *********** ambulance chaser

Squeegee Beckenheim 11th June 2018 04:47 PM

Well, let's clear it up - is publicly calling for hacked information to be used against another person good, bad, or neutral?

d4m10n 11th June 2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12324034)
Well, let's clear it up - is publicly calling for hacked information to be used against another person good, bad, or neutral?

Bad.

The Big Dog 11th June 2018 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12324034)
Well, let's clear it up - is publicly calling for hacked information to be used against another person good, bad, or neutral?

It is bad (and that means that when Trump did it, it was also bad).

Squeegee Beckenheim 12th June 2018 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Big Dog (Post 12324075)
It is bad (and that means that when Trump did it, it was also bad).

Well done.

plague311 17th June 2018 09:31 PM

That shady, thirsty lawyer for Stormy is offering legal services to the parents and families of separated children. That's pretty awesome. Too bad that orange ******* is causing this ****.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-who-have-been

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G6000 18th June 2018 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doubt (Post 12308272)
This thread exists to discuss Michael Avenatti and his performance as a lawyer and his general character.

Is he a good advocate and is he corrupt?

"It takes a thief to catch a thief."

ponderingturtle 18th June 2018 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doubt (Post 12308272)
This thread exists to discuss Michael Avenatti and his performance as a lawyer and his general character.

Is he a good advocate and is he corrupt?

It seems not unlikely that the answer is yes to both.

So I think he would be a good lawyer to represent me but I am not sure I would want a business relationship with him,

The Big Dog 21st June 2018 02:57 PM

Thirsty's repeated representations to the courts and press that Eagan Avenatti is not involved in the porn star's case?

Lies perpetrated to defraud his creditors.

http://www.documentcloud.org/documen...952-Eagan.html

The Big Dog 21st June 2018 03:07 PM

the Thirsty Wave is spreading!

plague311 1st July 2018 05:31 PM

Just more evidence of Avenetti being a piece of ****:

Quote:

Working with whistleblowers and others, we have obtained information that should enable us to identify and help reunite over 590 children with their parents. Children need to be reunited with their parents NOW. We will not rest until this job is done. #FightClub #Basta
Trump should have hired Avenetti as his lawyer, since Avenetti is cleaning up after him anyway.

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