And this is your reality, a fantasy based on hate of the USA, your fellow citizens.

Who is they? Got some names you can round up in your paranoid world of woo.

You failed to prove any video was fake, and failed to prove any of your claims.

Corrected.

You need to calm yourself over here...let's just look at this logically from a technology standpoint, shall we:

CGI video tech your talking about here was in it's infancy in 2000-2001. For example; with the unlimited resources of ILM and Lucasfilm, the thousands of man-hours logged by hundreds of professionals, you still have products that are obviously computer generated. All of this during the time period before, during, and after the time period of 9/11.

Now, for your hypothesis to be true or (at the very least) relevant, we have to consider that the video editing technology that you propose existed prior to 9/11/2001 was at a mastery level that was magnitudes better than the world's best CGI film production outfits.

Now consider, that if thousands of hours of production is needed by hundreds of techs to produce well-crafted (but clearly CGI) video, then surely the ultra-realistic videos produced for 9/11/2001 took several YEARS to put in the can ...suggesting that production started in the 1990's somewhere (if not sooner).

This creates other questions that maybe you could address:

• When was the script drafted? Finalized?
  
• When was casting call? Was the call printed in any known periodicals?
  
• When did filming start?
  
• When did filming wrap?
  
• What film production/editing company was commissioned?
  
• What CGI editing software was used/created?
  
• With all these hundreds (thousands?) of people committed to writing, scripting, testing, casting, building, filming, editing, printing, etc...how do you surmise that absolutely zero individuals have come forward with evidence of being involved in such a huge and ground-breaking film project?

Looking forward to your insight on these matters.

How did they predict the wind wile setting up the CGI. As UA175 approached it was in the shadow of the smoke. Just before impact it came into the sunlight. They would need to know exactly where the smoke would be before they " 5. Create a CGI animation of a jet with a transparent background to match each of the rehearsed shots."

So you draw the line at faking your own death? Others, fine, whatever. But your own is too far?

With zero practical knowledge, or any specific knowledge, how do you know how a missile would perform?

You actually expect him to explain his fantasy in detail? LOL

I see we can add Latin fluency as another area of your (non) expertise.

Good catch. ;)

Careful or he'll issue an alltomato.:boxedin:

Or worse, taunt us a second time.

Even of you stick with contemporaneous sci-fi films, with absolute state-of-the-art CGI for that time..

Supernova (2000)
Red Planet (2000)
Pitch Black (2000)
Sunshine (2000)

The CGI in these movies is obvious.

Even in the movie Sully, which was made in 2015 - way greater state of the art CGI, you can still tell its CGI.

Beginning to sound like a 1916 Cumberland College football coach in a post-game interview who just got beat by a score of 222-0.

Yeah?! Well, did those movies have a television shoved in their faces? Huh, did they?!?!

The truth hurts? I link to it and find your initial videos “not found”.

Did the truth hurt you or something?

I think, though, that our yankee friend has hit upon a pretty useful technique for arguing, though I suspect he has been influenced by the national news of late: just say something so stupid that people are dumfounded, and then run around dancing and say "see, see, they couldn't find an answer!"

Yankee, there really is a difference between awestruck and gobsmacked.

yankee451 failed to prove videos were faked, never will

yankee451 analysis failed to include science, no clue why he can't succeed

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Nice to see I'm not the only one who appears to have missed yankee451's answers to my numerous, and oft-repeated, questions.
As StillSleepy and Steve have said, all you need to do is answer them once. Do please link to the answers you claim to have already given.
I remain as unfoundedly optimistic as ever. :D
(Thanks, SmartCooky for the John Cleese quote. I do wish he would stop copying me. I get little enough credit for my humble attempts at wit here as it is, without having him come and steal my thunder).

"Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. A philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." Bertolt Brecht

(IIRC, someone on this forum has this in their signature)

Well if you want to peddle a conspiracy theory, you have to learn how to make yourself look large and intimidating when cornered and scurry off in the confusion, like a frilled lizard. Except a frilled lizard has a backbone.

Who’s “They” in the thread title?

Hasn't really been stated explicitly, in direct context it's agencies like the CIA, which he considers to be under the control of a vague Global Power Structure^TM that controls the government.

To be fair, I wouldn't put it past the GPS to take over the world, they're masters of misdirection. After their recent period of explosive growth around the world they have driven the road atlas to near extinction and seem to only be limited by access to their favored prey, electricity and lost tourists.

Them. Same organization, different department.

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I AGREE

The wind had nothing to do with the CGI.

But the smoke would have to be taken into account, and the direction the smoke is blown in is determined by the direction of __________ (insert correct answer here)

That's pretty weak. The wind direction on the day determined the smoke direction. The smoke cast a shadow. The CGI plane passed through the real shadow. How did they generate and prerecord that, these supercompetent villains who leave nothing to chance?

We called him Gusty at the Academy.

Also, why wouldn't wind matter if you're trying to make decent CGI?

No it wouldn't. The smoke was part of the video upon which the CGI jet was layered. This is explained in the OP.

You'll figure it out.

Or, after already gutting his foe, the victor finds no joy in kicking its carcass.

I'm sure the CGI smoke smelled just like real smoke too.

And, by a pure coincidence the direction matches the records of the BOM.
Ops, I forgot, they are in it too :-).

Do you hear voices too, or is that just the wind roaring between your ears?

You aren't seeing clearly. Maybe it's the smoke in your eyes.

Your intellect give me chills. No wait, that's my skin crawling.

Interesting how that smoke persisted into the next day, too.

A few months, in fact.

Not really all that interesting if you think about it. A challenge, for some.

Rub a couple pieces of gray matter together, if you can find them.