You are of course assuming that Kelly actually has any influence to prevent Trump from doing stupid stuff with the military or the economy.

As I mentioned before, Kelly has largely been sidelined as of late. And many of the foolish things Trump has done (like starting trade wars) were things that Kelly wouldn't have been involved in doing anyways.

In fact, its possible that Kelly is an enabler, someone who gives Trump a figleaf of respect when it is not deserved.

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Kelly leaving is more a problem for keeping the lights on in the White House than stopping Trump from ordering the country to go to DEFCON 1, just to show China how serious he is about trade: by now, non-flunkies just don't follow Trump's nonsense orders anymore.

THngs could get a lot worse....as in Trump starts a war for no good reason worse.

I just hope the Republican Senators develop a sense of personal self-preservation. Trump is going to push at the boundaries until someone stops him, and if the GOP Senate had any self-awareness, they'd see that eventually they'll end up as his enemies.

Kelly might have tried, but everyone who plays ball with a narcissist with power is going to get burned unless he loses power before that.

Does anyone now doubt that Tillerson called Trump a 'moron'? Or that he was wrong in doing so?

If Tillerson is "dumb as a rock' and "lazy as hell", why did Trump appoint him as Sec. of State in the first place? It reflects more on Trump's competency than Tillerson's. If anyone is dumb as a rock and lazy as hell, it's Trump.

I think you will find there are checks and balances in place to prevent that......



And by checks and balances I mean we have to hope Twitter’s terms and conditions don’t allow you to declare war using their service!

Sorry, I missed typing out 'Bush' before 'appointee'. I've been missing words and typing in the wrong words a lot lately, which is honestly troubling to me.

At any rate, yes, it turns out he was one of those 'conservative' (GOP style) lapdogs that Bush pushed through with a ton of appointments from 'conservative' law schools.

And how many times has Trump now used this same strategy, over and over again? Ex-cabinet members. Ex-staff. Ex-lawyers...

"Sure I appointed them but I always thought they were an idiot (liar, etc)." Particularly when they finally are willing to tell the truth about him. I just don't get it.

Would any executive in any company or organization be allowed to get away with such crap?

If any executive made as many bad decisions in hiring as Trump, they'd have been fired for incompetency long ago.

Kelly to leave by the end of the year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46496756

I would just love it if Trump made Sean Hannity chief of staff. It wouldn't be good for the country, but it would be interesting to see the meltdown.

However I think Pence's COS is the likely pick.

Trump continues to alienate every halfway competent appointee he's named.

ETA: Also interested in how Trump will go about trashing Kelly's reputation.

... the last line of defense.

The only person remotely qualified to do the job he hired them for was Stormy Daniels.

That is funny. Really. But the nit picker in me needs to point out that Stormy wasn't paid for the sex. She was only paid not to talk about it. But, still...funny.:thumbsup:

It's hard to imagine anybody having sex with that despicable guy if they aren't paid. Why do you think she wasn't paid twice, the first time for sex, the second time for signing the NDA?

I think it was a freebie based on her hope that he'd give her career a boost. But no way to know for sure, obviously.

The more unhinged Trump gets the more likely the Senate is to impeach him. The economy will recover.

The economy isn't in recession.
But it will be.

She said she wasn't paid for the sex and I take her at her word about it. She's far more credible than Trump. Daniels said that Trump offered to get her on The Apprentice and to help her cheat to stay on longer.

Nitpick: The House would impeach him, the Senate would then conduct the trial to remove him from office.

Me, picking Kelly back on May 1. Was I the first?

I had him in August of last year, but I also thought he'd quit before Trump could fire him. He didn't seem like the kind of person to suffer fools.

But this means I need a new dead pool pick. Who are you looking at? We're nearly down to just family left, aren't we?

:th:

Jared? he's been putting his big fat foot in it lately over Saudi Arabia and making Donny look stupid. That's not acceptable. Just let's hope he isn't Kashoggi'd.

So who is going to replace Don Jr. after his indictment?
No doubt Trump is shopping around for a suitable, less problematic son.

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He could buy one, I suppose.

So if I understand you correctly, he cheated on Melania with Stormy Daniels, and he cheated Stormy Daniels by promising her to get her on The Apprentice, which he didn't, and he also promised her to help her cheat, which would have cheated the viewers, who probably wouldn't suspect the show to be rigged.
Is it as simple as that?! :)

This site is a great summary of the easy come/easy go appointments in the Trump administration. An amazingly long list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...l_appointments

Should we have a fractional point system for this thread in which "survivors" who back out before actually beginning the position (such as Ayers) are scored 0.25, those employed for less than a week are scored 0.50, and those whose appointments last less than a month are scored 0.75? Somehow I think that only those who last more than a month deserve a full 1.0 as a survivor, although I do not view that 1.0 as a positive measure of their character or integrity.

Pretty much.

(Hollywood Reporter)

Nick Ayers, Pence's COS and favorite to replace Kelly, says he does not want the job,
Gotta admit, Ayers showed very good judgement in not wanting to walk into the snake pit.

He'll get the job after impeachment and conviction, with less stress.

He knows he will get to be the President's CoS possibly soon by just staying where he is. ;)

Ayers might be playing hard to get to wring concessions out of Trump.

Probably the most pitiful thing I heard today was Meadows wildly waving his and vigorously announcing that he would be available and would be honored if he was appointed as Whitehouse Chief of Staff.

It is bad enough to agree to take the unsavory and IMO immoral job as Trump's enabler if pressured to do so as a service to your country. It is beyond my comprehension to beg for it.

He's leaving Pence's staff, too. Taking that midnight train to Georgia. He'll run his PAC and consulting business and stay clear of the admin. Ayers is a moving target. He doesn't sit still long enough for any flak to adhere to him. Getting clear of the cesspit on Pennsylvania Avenue is probably typical of him. He touted as this great thinker but I think he's a great self-promoter. Look for him to run for Governor or Senator in coming years. He sees himself not as a kingmaker but a king.

I don't think so. Their irreconcilable condition was that Ayers insisted on only serving a year. Someone with a brain pointed out to Donnie that the last thing he needs is a schedule let's all shoot ourselves in the feets festival in another 12 months. He needs someone who will stay out the term to 2020.

Why can't Donnie do what he has done for many ambassadorships and departmental heads: Don't bother filling the position at all. He takes zero notice of his CoS anyway - it's just a whipping-boy position for him, or perhaps her thinks it's a personal coffee-fetcher. Anyway, it's clear Donny doesn't actually want a CoS at all. Perhaps one of the table lamps in the Oval could be promoted??

https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-conten...ce-couches.jpg

Should he be considering the equine solution.

I personally hope he goes with one his lesser lights just to add to the comedy. Judge Roy from Alabama must be looking for paying job. How about Sheriff Dave from Milwaukee? He nominated himself for several positions that were never actually offered to him. Maybe he could just nominate himself as CoS. Or Devin The Midnight Marauder. He'd fit right in.

Why couldn't a Chief of staff work out of a prison?
Or better yet, declare the White House Grounds to be a Federal Penitentiary.
That would give Trump access to a large pool of candidates and safe us all a lot of time.

I can see how getting a leg-up would give her as a professional an unfair advantage in most contests: (Fairly innocent article and photo, but maybe not safe for work, w24.co.za, Feb. 12, 2010)

...Caligula, yes?

Stormy Daniels should be the new Chief of Staff.

She can stand up for herself to Trump's BS. (See any current events about her.)
She can enforce discipline when required. (She literally spanked Trump.)
She has a demonstrated ability to compromise to achieve a goal. (See the entire porn industry.)
She can pretend that everything is normal when nothing really is. (Ever seen a porn flick?)

Hey, I think Stormy would be a lot more competent then a lot of the people in the Trump White House.

I wouldn't take the job as Trump's chief of staff (not that I'm remotely qualified) for a millions bucks a day and all the interns I could ****.

I dunno, that's getting into the ballpark for a salary I'd consider...

:)

In fast moving news this AM, Chris Christie's name hit the news as possibly under consideration for next Chief-of-Staff, only to have him quickly and publicly decline any interest in the position.

Given Chris Christie's intense desire for a White House position immediately after Trump's election, the change in his views represent a remarkable recognition of what allying oneself with Trump now means. Christie: smarter and less desparate than I thought.

So much for “friends and relatives” for CoS...it’s just down to “relatives” now.

ETA: “Hey Bart? Brad? No...Baron (that’s it)! You want a job?”

Not being remotely qualified is a key qualification for any position in the Trump administration.

With Christie, it's a case of a rat refusing to get on a sinking ship.