You don't recall being extremely upset that people would describe those who literally built a golden statue of Trump as "worshipping" him? It was in that conversation that you claimed to be a lifelong registered Democrat despite your actions in this thread and that one. Ring a bell yet?


Eta: don't worry, long experience dealing with posters like 16.5/the big dog claiming to be Democrats as well despite constantly promoting and defending Republican people and positions while attacking and mocking every Democratic politician or policy made the shenanigans easy to spot.

I also gave you the option of at least showing where what you said was implied. You failed! You ran away from the hard question (which is exactly what I expected) and now you're trying to justify that running away with more waffling and BS (which was also entirely predictable)

Your claim, that legislation before the house stated "for legal purposes, anyone who declares himself to be a Woman is one" was always a bunch of BS and you know it. There is nothing in HR5 (or any piece of legislation) that even remotely implies this.

... you lied!

Reading.
Comprehension.

If he is getting it so wrong maybe you could go back and point out what you were actually trying to say.

I probably do not recall being "extremely upset" about that because in the 14 years I have been visiting this forum I have rarely become "extremely upset" by other posters' ignorance. Such as labelling the creation of a tacky statue "worshipping".

It would be interesting, however, if you were to spell out how my pointing out the hyperbolic nature of that characterization of the CPAC attendees (displayed by referring to them as "worshipping" a tacky statue) equals "defending Trump" as you claimed I was doing in your earlier lie.

I am fully willing to believe that you were not intentionally defending trump in that thread.

However in this thread, you are defending the indefensible opinions of a transphobic bigot.

Regardless of whether or not the tacky statute of Trump is equal to worshipping him, since the election we have seen from Trump supporters a degree of adulation and groveling to Trump that is quite something. The CPAC meeting was full of that sort of idiocy. So yeah I am quite convinced that a great many Trump supporters can by now accurately be described has worshippers of Trump. He is now surrounded by what can only be described has a cult of personality. And yes Marjorie Taylor Greene is one of the cultists.

Man, right wingers just can't help but completely "misinterpret" any sort of communication they're involved in, huh? Before we go into the weeds with your latest "hey look, a squirrel" defense, let's get back to the bit you're trying to district from at the moment: MTG's longtime anti-trans activism that you, in your right wing anti-trans stance, are attempting to wave away as not being anti-trans but anti-some part of the protection from anti-trans-discrimination bill that she was publicly against before it was written.

Then, after you rewrite history enough to justify that bit of right wingerness, we can circle back to how creating a god-damn golden idol is the ******* biblical definition of worshipping, jesus ******* christ!

Yup, yours definitely needs work

Fat chance!

I am curious as to why this would be a problem (questions directed at Distracted1 more than quoted poster). Is there some test that needs to be conducted to determine if somebody is "really" transgender, or "just pretending?". Should it be legal to discriminate in housing, employment, or public accommodations against somebody who is "just pretending" and therefore not a "real" transgendered person? If so, why? Or is the contention that all transgendered people are "just pretending", and therefore need to be shunned by all right-thinking people?

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the subject of this thread, literally said trans people are pretending. Distracted1 defended that claim.

Some posters have an uncanny ability to be misunderstood in virtually every thread. Why does everyone suddenly suffer from reading comprehension when these posters are around? It's just so weird!

:jaw-dropp

You just nailed it!

And it worked for you too!

Yeah, I know. Trumpists don't bother with evidence as the last two impeachments proved.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...t-13562972.php

We know they dated. Any evidence it furthered her career?

Withdraw your lie, and I will consider addressing your further misrepresentations.

You believe that "pretending" in that context means pretending to be trans ?

You call this evidence? Ten hours and that's all you could come up with - a spurned lover's mildly bitchy opinion piece?

Oh, I forgot, you're a Trump sycophant - you don't know what evidence looks like.

Oh, no, you won't address the errors in your claims unless I retract a non-existent lie? Well, that's one way to avoid any further embarrassment on your part.

Basically you're accusing Harris of prostituting herself which explains your previous offensive avatar. Typical of the right-wing which made other nasty and untrue allegations. Resorting to such disgusting and false attacks does seem to be the 'go to' of the "party of family values" today, though. This is what Reuters fact check reveals:

This happens over and over. A right winger sees something in a thread that upsets them -- in this case probably the video of Marjorie Taylor Greene groping the donald trump cutout plus the comment about Greene getting it on with trump -- and they cast about for a way to give some 'payback.'

As someone pointed out: instead of defending their position the wingers often accuse anyone who disagrees as misunderstanding their position. Then they drag that out until people give up.

It's a very lame way to try and discuss something, but it's all you can expect. I just skip past this nonsense. ;)

You are now doubling down on your lie by lieing again.
Post 845 you made a claim that I was defending Trump in a specific other thread. A lie. If you cannot be bothered to withdraw your lie- or at least excuse it by claiming to be mistaken, then honest conversation with you is not possible.

...eh, I'm not interested in Bogative's raggedy old racist stereotypes about how horrible black people are, so instead, here's MTG complaining that going through a metal detector is "voterr suppression", as opposed to just "security", and then stating that "waiting in line" is no more voter suppression than standing in line at a grocery store.

Because every person needs very specific ID to go to a grocery store. And the lines are typically and purposefully hours long.

Also, if you didn't buy groceries last "grocery day", or you have a similar name to someone who shoplifted from another store, you might find that you are wiped off the "grocery-buyer's list" and will starve, and one of the two major political parties in the US are hellbent on making this even more difficult, if not impossible, by shortening the time the grocery store is open, moving the grocery store from one place to another, and so forth.

Also, nobody should be allowed to order groceries for delivery.

Sure, sure anything you can use to change the subject from your errors. You not only don't have to defend yourself here, you clearly can't defend your claims.

So, how about MTG's anti-trans activism that you keep trying to ignore and change the subject from?

This is a blatant attempt to derail this thread. Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence.

What pray tell does any of this have to do with Marjorie Taylor Greene? The comment that seems to have been so intolerable was based on, not Greene attempting a sexual liaison with trump to further her career, but groping a cardboard cutout of him. Remember?

In case anyone thinks the screen cap is misleading, here's the video link on Twitter. It's 29-seconds long for those with a short attention span. ;)

This guy right here is great!

This comment gives even more context to some of Greene's posturing.

Holy crap I didn't realize that was a real poster/image and not a joke.

I want to go back to the timeline I came from, what the hell is going on here? Let me OUT!

And she wonders why Pelosi won't let her bring her gun onto the House floor.

In Congress Greene is emerging as a tactician bent on interrupting and delaying routine business as a way of harassing her Democratic colleagues. Greene offers motions to require roll call votes on routine matters as a way of slowing things down. Greene denies this, saying Americans deserve to know exactly how their representative is voting. At the same time Greene regularly introduces motions to adjourn, a tactic that has yet to work but delays proceedings by forty five minutes because of the requirement it be put to a voice vote. This is what Greene tweeted a hour ago

CNN reports that while some Republicans defend Greene some Republican members of Congress find her behavior frustrating.

Dunning-Kruger of Congressional function? :p

Maybe, but even if they do find her behaviour frustrating they won't do anything to attempt to change it because she, and her views, represent the modern day GOP. :(

Greene tweeted this last night-
Now it's a God-given right? :rolleyes:

Yup, the Founding Fathers are now Gods didn'tchaknow?

Someone with the kind of mentality Marjorie Greene has, if you asked her-

• How is the right to keep and bear arms 'God-given?'

Her answer would probably be-

• Don't you believe in God?

And her supporters would cheer. :(

It's nice to hear that even some of her Republican co-workers are frustrated by her, but unnamed Republican Congresscritters were also always frustrated with Trump off the record but behind him 100% when their name was attached to it. I'd much rather hear which Republicans are frustrated, or far better yet hear what they are doing to rein her in.

And that's why these republicans love to "communicate" through Twitter. There is no one to ask the obvious questions that could point out the ridiculousness of her stance.

I would also ask her "And what exactly have you done to assure 2A rights?"

What has Marjorie Greene done to defend second amendment rights? She'd have an answer for that one. Below is a quote from her congressional website:

Introducing bills isn't the same as getting them passed.

So, anarchy then?

Marj was busy today. USA Today reports:
It has been reported that the number of Republicans voting against her motions to adjourn has increased each time she has introduced one. Today forty Republicans voted against an adjournment but many support her. Of the Republicans who voted against adjournment to day, Greene tweeted:
How does one do business with a person like Marjorie Taylor Greene? Is she supposed to be on medication, by any chance? ;)

In Dunning-Krueger thinking it is. :p

Just like the ignorant belief that wasting the House's time with frivolous procedural moves is. Either that or she thinks she's getting even.

I think most Republicans in the House regard her as something of a joke, and I think she is too stupid and self-obsessed to realise that.

I also believe she thinks that her antics will delay and ultimately prevent some legislation from being passed by running out the clock. What she is too dumb to realise is that Speaker Pelosi and House Majority leader Hoyer control the clock - they will simply extend the length of time that the House is in session to get the work done.

Finally, I believe she thinks she's "trolling the Libz", but again she is too stupid to realise that the Dems will be finding it highly entertaining watching her regularly making an utter fool of herself, while watching their Republican colleagues become more and more frustrated with her antics. And that's not even mentioning the fact that the proportion of old grey-haired men is far greater on the R side of the house than the D side. Old grey men tire more easily, and become grumpy more often (I should know)

Yep, there is little doubt in my mind that the good people of Georgia's 14th congressional district have given the Dems the greatest gift they could give by electing her as their representative - a loose cannon in the midst of the House Republicans - she really is the gift that keeps giving.

MTG is indicative of just how far the GOP has fallen not only in terms of her actually being elected and proving the 'quality' of the Trump base, but in confirming just how firm a grip Trump still has on the shriveled up cajones of the GOP Congress.

I was telling someone today that the Dems will have worked out MTG's hot-buttons already. And they will simply push them whenever they want the Republicans to look stupid in public, which is most of the time. The Dems can afford a little time-wasting on this. Because her stupidities publicly paint the whole GOP with the same brush of mean-spirited, uneducated, incompetent vigilantism that she purveys. She also distracts attention from any Dem shortcomings and issues. I suspect this is why her fellow GOPers voted against her - to prevent her making a fool of them.

You assume that would be a bad thing from an electoral point of view.

I think that GOP tactics and policies for the last couple of decades has shown that they're perfectly happy to be mean-spirited, come across as uneducated and positively thrive on vigilantism. :(

Only in NE Georgia, where she crawled out from. The majority of the GOP are your actual elites, and know how to play the system...provided some dumb hick isn't stepping in dog-turds and trampling them on the carpet while wearing their colours.

Isn't disrupting the Dems the main reason she got elected?

I am surprised more of it isn't happening from other Repubs.

I don't think so. Perhaps the GOP leadership (nationally and locally) are the actual elites but the people who actually vote GOP in large parts of the US are less well educated, poorer whites who want to return to the glory days of the 50's (not sure whether 1850's or 1950's) before the Yankees ruined it for everyone.


edited to add.....

I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. If she becomes a celebrity within the party like Sarah Palin then IMO it's clear that the GOP leadership think she's a vote winner. If they bury her then the opposite is the case.