I've been on crowded NYC subways. If she (or anyone) had "unloaded a clip" at someone, there would be a dozen more dead and injured people for sure. Probably far more casualties than caused by the original assailant.

Sometimes sacrifices have to be made to preserve freedom.

And with any luck, she would have hit some of the rats too.

Not unless she pointed the gun at herself.

Well, she is kind of like a Black Hole of pure stupidity. It's possible she is so dense that the bullets themselves, no matter where they were aimed, would curve back at her.

:D:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I forgot the guy threw a smoke bomb before firing.

I think she’d be lucky not to shot herself.

Basic problem being: How does the armed vigilante really know who is the bad guy? If everybody has guns, it's a big shoot-out. How do you know who are the bad guys?

In contrast, with gun regulations (severe ones), only criminals have guns, so the one with the gun is the criminal. (In fact even criminals will rarely be packing, as this alone will give them away.)

Hans

Kill them all

The criminals will be the ones who are members of some minority.;)

You'd be amazed at how common the "I can just tell who's a bad guy" mentality is among the Proudly Wrong.

Ever since this conversation started, I keep picturing the subway scene from Predator 2. Released in 1990 and depicting the future year of 1997, when everyone carries guns.

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I AGREE

I wonder where Greene stood on Trump's gun grab? Probably ok with it because it was Trump doing it.

Ranb

Now emptyg is blaming Biden and the FBI. For the Brooklyn subway shooting. The Tweet below was in answer to John Cardillo of the Rebel News Network who wondered, "with thousands of cameras deployed," how come no one can track this guy? {These 'tweets' were posted yesterday, obviously before James was arrested.

I don't even want to try and decipher what she's implying. :boggled:

[Looks up at sky, clouds, intermittent rain, kinda cold outside. Then looks up at thread...]


I am definitely going fishing this afternoon. **** this ****.

What can you expect from someone who can't even grasp the very basic difference between a plural and a possessive?

Trying to stop untraceable ghost guns is 'gun control'? It's just plain common sense...oh, wait....sorry. Silly me.

God will sort them out.

"Nuke 'em till they glow... then shoot 'em in the dark!"
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Wait, what were we talking about?
I really don't want to play war straffing glowing green gumbys, like some video game.

Can we switch to the US Pol thread so I can imagine EmptyG and the Bobbert like some think we all already do?

Actually,that shade of green, on her skin tone, hmm...

....or for that matter left out a fairly important comma, making the sentence read that the FBI did the mass shooting.

If EmptyG can't even understand the difference between a simple plural and a possessive, proper comma usage is way over her head.

You willnever get a ban on private gun ownership ....which is what you are talking about...in the US, Just will not happen.

You mean white sub-neanderthal banjo-pickers?

Israel announced yesterday that it has successfully tested a new laser-based Iron Beam defense system. Reportedly, they can be used against mortars and missiles. Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett was quoted as saying, “This may sound like science-fiction, but it’s real. The Iron Beam’s interceptions are silent, they’re invisible and they only cost around $3.50 apiece."

When emptyg heard about it she tweeted:
Yeah relax everyone. By the way, Marj, do you think these lasers could be deployed on New York City subway trains? Just askin' for a friend. ;)

Can't disagree, on the face of it.
It will be another 20, 30 years before we've moved back toward a national push for it.
By then, we'll either be a theocracy where they're locked in... or in The Purge, where everyone will need a few. :D

Besides... it could only happen with an OZ style buyback, for 10 or 20 billion dollars, and no one is gonna get that passed.

Rather than everyone get torqued over the dollar figure of a buyback, consider matters from the standpoint of the per capita cost. For instance, assume for the moment a similar gun-to-citizen ratio. If the payout per gun averaged the same, then the higher total payout in the more populous nation would be nicely amortized by the concomitantly higher GDP.

Anyway, for the foreseeable future it's all moot. Where Oz had a fire lit under its collective arse over Port Arthur, in the US even numerous school massacres--Sandy Hook most notably--did not move the populace. In the same way that a nation can be judged by how it treats its poor (the US is risible), it can be weighed by how it deals with instruments of death designed specifically to kill efficiently (the US is obscene to a pornographic degree.)

Marjorie Taylor Greene Reports Her First Fundraising Loss

So when idiots donate to her, 75% goes to fundraising costs. Aside from the political considerations, I would never give to charity that spends that much on fundraising. Morons!

She's not a Grammar Nazi, just the regular kind.

I can see the response now from the faithful.

MORONS.

I'm sure she's one of the "good people" on that side.

And the Dems spend that money on raping and murdering fetuses!

Seeing the photo above reminds me I need to clean my toilet.

I hope you have better taste than they do, since they appear to be aiming to clean their guns with American flags.

I was thinking that her hair would make a good toilet scrubber. I don't own a flag.


Maybe I can use an RNC banner.

On that last, I'm reminded of a comment by the late great (yeah, socialist too) Norman Thomas back in the 60's regarding student protests, that if you want a symbolic gesture, don't burn the flag, wash it.

:thumbsup:

I wish we could "like" posts here.

In the fishing forum I attend we can do that. There's no negatives either. Just "like", thanks", "laugh".

There is no contest to see who can get the most or anything. It's mainly a convenient way to reply without actually needing to post, like I'm doing now. I think it's cool. Maybe this forum software is too old.

This is true on some other forums I am on. But I think this issue has come up, and it might not work so well where contention is inherent, as it does on things like discussions of cameras and machine tools.

The subject comes up from time to time but is usually "voted down" when it does.
I for one, wouldn't hate having a "like" button, and I think it's even been mentioned the forum software would support the function, but for now, it's a no go.
But hey, we do have that handy "nominate" button at our disposal, which is close.

If I like something, a quick two thumbs up is easy.

By whom?

I would vote for a "like" button simply for the fact that once in a while, someone will claim widespread support for their arguments, simply because everyone on the forum hasn't posted to disagree with them.

It has to be pointed out that silence =/= assent.

Justice slowly grinds on.

Federal Judge Refuses to Block Effort to Disqualify Marjorie Taylor Greene from Office Under 14th Amendment ‘Insurrection’ Prohibition (lawandcrime.com)

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Hopefully, this will succeed and others will face the same thing. But, I doubt it.

I am not so sure a total ban on private ownership of weapons is even desireable.

Maybe the act is getting old.....

For the record, the post Port Arthur gun crack-down was on semi-autos primarily, although they accepted any arms at all. Plenty of old long-arms were handed in too. (Hand-guns and automatic weapons were very strictly controlled already.) The Prime Minister of the country at the time who promulgated and pushed this law with such haste was one of our most reactionary right-wing semi-fascists named John Howard. Not exactly a bleeding-heart, gun-hating, socialist/commie "lib" in any sense of the word.

What's funny is how people (like Alex Jones) go to great lengths to imagine that mass shootings are a manufactured phenomenon to justify oppressive gun control in the US. It seems like lately it causes a large movement against additional legislation, including much that would have been far less controversial before.

I have long since decided not to enter such discussions, but ... can't help it:

Please explain why you are not sure of that? What purpose does private gun ownership serve? (Hunting and target shooting for sport is well handled in countries that otherwise ban private guns.)

Hans

It is a last resort against tryanny. The gun nuts are right about that.
I am in favor of reasonable controls but a total disarming of the population...no.

emptyg lost her cool during a local TV interview. Tennessee-based news station WTVC interviewed Greene via Zoom. They referred to the legal action filed aiming at prohibiting Greene from holding office. The reporter, Ilene Gould Tweeted:

Here is the link to the video of Greene angrily denying everything. "This is a scam!"