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Firestone 24th September 2018 09:40 AM

"This may be the strangest day yet at the Trump White House. Rod Rosenstein was summoned to the WH to meet with John Kelly this morning. He expected to be fired. He wasn't. And now Rosenstein is attending a previously scheduled cabinet-level meeting (filling in for Sessions)"

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1044261344562884610

d4m10n 24th September 2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12440265)
FWIW, there's a spreadsheet here of every departure from the Trump administration. 387 to date.

Great find!

jimbob 24th September 2018 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 12440303)
"This may be the strangest day yet at the Trump White House. Rod Rosenstein was summoned to the WH to meet with John Kelly this morning. He expected to be fired. He wasn't. And now Rosenstein is attending a previously scheduled cabinet-level meeting (filling in for Sessions)"

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1044261344562884610

I liked this from Liverpoolmiss on badscience

Quote:

Oh. Not fired, resigned or saved. A meeting on Thursday instead.

I'm not entirely convinced this White House is smooth-running machine.

Crossbow 24th September 2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12440265)
FWIW, there's a spreadsheet here of every departure from the Trump administration. 387 to date.

Oh for crying out loud!

Are there positive reasons for working for Trump?

So far, about the only positive aspect that I have seen in working for Trump is that one may be able to make a small fortune by writing some sort of kiss-and-tell book about the experience.

Garrison 24th September 2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 12440303)
"This may be the strangest day yet at the Trump White House. Rod Rosenstein was summoned to the WH to meet with John Kelly this morning. He expected to be fired. He wasn't. And now Rosenstein is attending a previously scheduled cabinet-level meeting (filling in for Sessions)"

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1044261344562884610

Sacking him now would be catastrophic for the Republicans in the mid-term elections and yet I find it hard to believe trump would pay any regard to that if he wanted Rosenstein gone.

Segnosaur 24th September 2018 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrison (Post 12440681)
Sacking him now would be catastrophic for the Republicans in the mid-term elections and yet I find it hard to believe trump would pay any regard to that if he wanted Rosenstein gone.

But he would pay attention to Seah Hannity....

From: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...enstein-report
Fox News host Sean Hannity late Friday urged President Trump not to fire anyone following a New York Times report that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had proposed secretly taping conversations in the Oval Office last year...“I have a message for the president tonight. Under zero circumstances should the president fire anybody,” Hannity, a vocal ally of Trump, said during his program. "They are hoping and praying that the president does just that, that he gets mad, that he gets sick and tired of it” and turns it into a scandal, Hannity added.

Given the fact that Trump regularly communicates with Fox news personalities (with them serving as advisers/controllers), a warning from Hannity not to fire Rosenstein would go a long way.

alfaniner 24th September 2018 02:19 PM

If one thing comes out of this it will hopefully be the ability of pundits to pronounce "Rosenstein" correctly. (ends like "Frankenstein".)

Jim_MDP 24th September 2018 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 12440772)
...
Given the fact that Trump regularly communicates with Fox news personalities (with them serving as advisers/controllers), a warning from Hannity not to fire Rosenstein would go a long way.

Given the frequent "pillow talk" phone calls... in 50 years this will be known as "the Hannity Administration".
[emoji14]

Giordano 24th September 2018 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 12440772)
But he would pay attention to Seah Hannity....

From: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...enstein-report
Fox News host Sean Hannity late Friday urged President Trump not to fire anyone following a New York Times report that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had proposed secretly taping conversations in the Oval Office last year...“I have a message for the president tonight. Under zero circumstances should the president fire anybody,” Hannity, a vocal ally of Trump, said during his program. "They are hoping and praying that the president does just that, that he gets mad, that he gets sick and tired of it” and turns it into a scandal, Hannity added.

Given the fact that Trump regularly communicates with Fox news personalities (with them serving as advisers/controllers), a warning from Hannity not to fire Rosenstein would go a long way.

An easy call for Hannity and Trump: it appeared in the NY Times! My god, it must be part of some devious liberal/communist plot.

Donald: don't fall for the bait! Promote Rosenstein.

I am curious and probably relevant: what does Putin recommend?

Stacyhs 24th September 2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12440817)
If one thing comes out of this it will hopefully be the ability of pundits to pronounce "Rosenstein" correctly. (ends like "Frankenstein".)

"Frankenstein" as in Dr. Victor or Dr. Frederick Frankenstein? :D

alfaniner 24th September 2018 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 12440962)
"Frankenstein" as in Dr. Victor or Dr. Frederick Frankenstein? :D

Good point!

<Blücher!>

CapelDodger 24th September 2018 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 12440303)
"This may be the strangest day yet at the Trump White House. Rod Rosenstein was summoned to the WH to meet with John Kelly this morning. He expected to be fired. He wasn't. And now Rosenstein is attending a previously scheduled cabinet-level meeting (filling in for Sessions)"

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1044261344562884610

A nothingburger, diverting attention from Kavanaugh perhaps?

Trebuchet 24th September 2018 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapelDodger (Post 12441012)
A nothingburger, diverting attention from Kavanaugh perhaps?

Certainly the former, probably the latter. Diverting attention from the current stupidity with even more stupidity is something the administration has been remarkably good at.

LSSBB 24th September 2018 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 12440962)
"Frankenstein" as in Dr. Victor or Dr. Frederick Frankenstein? :D

Or is it Froderick?

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12441007)
Good point!

<Blücher!>

Neigh!

Firestone 25th September 2018 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12441026)
Certainly the former, probably the latter. Diverting attention from the current stupidity with even more stupidity is something the administration has been remarkably good at.

Yep.
Scheduling the Trump-Rosenstein meeting on Thursday, the same day Dr. Ford testifies before the Senate judiciary committee, is probably no coincidence.

The Great Zaganza 25th September 2018 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 12441240)
Yep.
Scheduling the Trump-Rosenstein meeting on Thursday, the same day Dr. Ford testifies before the Senate judiciary committee, is probably no coincidence.

So the expectation is that if the testimony of Ford goes well for Kavanaugh, Rosenstein is safe, and if it looks bad for Kavanaigh, Rosenstein will lose his job?

what a mess.

Stacyhs 25th September 2018 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12441256)
So the expectation is that if the testimony of Ford goes well for Kavanaugh, Rosenstein is safe, and if it looks bad for Kavanaigh, Rosenstein will lose his job?

what a mess.

I don't think so. Rosenstein is getting either fired or is resigning over the "record Trump/25th amendment" cherry on the cake allegations. Nothing to do with Kavanaugh. The timing, though, is no coincidence. He's trying to divide the coverage on Thursday.

The Great Zaganza 25th September 2018 01:52 AM

There is zero chance that Rosenstein was serious about the 25th/getting wired
up thing. For one, unless they lock Trump in a room until 2020, there would be no way to make the 25th stick, and Rosenstein knows this. He is also way too close to the Mueller probe to allow himself to be a direct witness.
This looks very much like a hatchet job by Trump supporters.

Crossbow 28th September 2018 08:42 AM

Has anyone heard any word yet on the disposition of Rod Rosenstein?

After all, just the other day, Trump was talking about axing him. But then Trump got distracted when the UN laughed at him and by the Kavanaugh hearings so I was just wondering if Trump had decided to "flip" or "flop" about the Rosenstein issue.

Segnosaur 28th September 2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 12445613)
Has anyone heard any word yet on the disposition of Rod Rosenstein?

After all, just the other day, Trump was talking about axing him. But then Trump got distracted when the UN laughed at him and by the Kavanaugh hearings so I was just wondering if Trump had decided to "flip" or "flop" about the Rosenstein issue.

The meeting was delayed until next week.

Crossbow 28th September 2018 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 12445622)
The meeting was delayed until next week.

OK thanks.

So then next week we might see another Trump meltdown about the Russian Collusion issue.

phiwum 28th September 2018 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12440817)
If one thing comes out of this it will hopefully be the ability of pundits to pronounce "Rosenstein" correctly. (ends like "Frankenstein".)

Yes, though everyone pronounces Weinstein like " weinstien" for some reason.

The Great Zaganza 28th September 2018 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12440817)
If one thing comes out of this it will hopefully be the ability of pundits to pronounce "Rosenstein" correctly. (ends like "Frankenstein".)

Let me guess:
you are from The Berenstain Bears parallel universe.

Crossbow 9th October 2018 05:26 AM

Well now,

Mr. Rosenstein has managed to dodg the Trump ax (at least for now):

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-c...anaugh-a-hoax/

Trump calls attacks on Kavanaugh a "hoax"

...

The president also said he has no plans to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who accompanied him to Orlando. Mr. Trump told reporters he has a "very good relationship" with Rosenstein, aside from the Russia investigation.

...

Firestone 9th October 2018 07:17 AM

Nikki Haley has resigned!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/u...e=sectionfront

ETA: will leave at the end of the year, says Trump.

C_Felix 9th October 2018 07:43 AM

Nimrata is gone.

TofuFighter 9th October 2018 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12440265)
FWIW, there's a spreadsheet here of every departure from the Trump administration. 387 to date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12440469)
Great find!

:D:D:D "time in Mooches"
so help me I went to find the Mooch and it was a perfect 1.0

Trebuchet 9th October 2018 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 12458758)
Nikki Haley has resigned!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/u...e=sectionfront

ETA: will leave at the end of the year, says Trump.

Who'd want to be UN Ambassador with noted UN-hater John Bolton in the White House?

d4m10n 9th October 2018 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 12458758)
Nikki Haley has resigned!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/u...e=sectionfront

ETA: will leave at the end of the year, says Trump.

Wonder if anyone else (of any note) will beat her out the door...?

Darat 9th October 2018 10:05 AM

Classic Trump. To paraphrase "she's done a great job,... we've done many great things."

Crossbow 9th October 2018 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12458894)
Who'd want to be UN Ambassador with noted UN-hater John Bolton in the White House?

Oh heck!

I will take her job. After all, it probably pays about $150,000 per year plus expenses.

I will just milk it along for a year or two until Trump gets impeached or Trump fires me, and by then I will have my house paid off so that I can retire.

Norman Alexander 9th October 2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12458894)
Who'd want to be UN Ambassador with noted UN-hater John Bolton in the White House?

Given the Trump management style of ignoring or actively denigrating positions that are "not in their political interest", they will likely just leave the position of US Ambassador to the UN vacant now.

As you say, they are actively opposed or at least could not care less about the UN as a concept. Just as they are with a whole lot of other government departments like State, or Education. So if they can ignore the whole thing, they will. Expect either some clueless flunky or nobody (much the same thing) to fill the vacancy.

C_Felix 9th October 2018 03:36 PM

Nikki Haley's resignation comes one day after an ethics watchdog requested an investigation into her acceptance of free flights on private jets

Coincidence?
Causation?

https://www.businessinsider.com/nikk...e-jets-2018-10

Craig4 9th October 2018 04:18 PM

She will be appointed as the new South Carolina Senator when Lindsey Graham becomes AG.

Trebuchet 9th October 2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 12459024)
Oh heck!

I will take her job. After all, it probably pays about $150,000 per year plus expenses.

I will just milk it along for a year or two until Trump gets impeached or Trump fires me, and by then I will have my house paid off so that I can retire.

You'd have to live in NYC. Fine for many people, obviously, but not for me.

Craig4 9th October 2018 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 12459024)
Oh heck!

I will take her job. After all, it probably pays about $150,000 per year plus expenses.

I will just milk it along for a year or two until Trump gets impeached or Trump fires me, and by then I will have my house paid off so that I can retire.

Her base salary is $187,000. In addition, she resides in her official residence, a suite of rooms in the Waldorf Astoria Hotel provided rent free to her. She has representational funds and can use that money to pay for household staff but only to support "representational" functions. For instance, she can't hire a nanny for her kids but if she hosts an official function she can hire a nanny to watch the kids of her guests.

TheSupermeerkat 10th October 2018 12:46 AM

Nikki Haley: the latest Trump enabler to ruin her shot at redemption

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-un-reputation

[blockquote] Nikki Haley wants you to know that she’s not quitting her awesome, once-in-a-lifetime job to spend more time with her family.

This is a rare thing among those permanently rising stars in the Republican party who just happen to announce their departures ahead of the expected train wreck of the midterm elections next month.

Paul Ryan, the outgoing House speaker, is leaving his awesome job because he honestly, truly wants to hang out with his own teenagers.[/blockquote]

d4m10n 11th October 2018 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 12459593)
Nikki Haley: the latest Trump enabler to ruin her shot at redemption

Haley 2024! :thumbsup:

...but seriously if the GOP ever decides to go back to doing traditional conservatism instead of playing the politics of Know NothingWP isolationism & white Christian grievance, I think she has a good shot at becoming the U.S. version of Margaret Thatcher.

CORed 11th October 2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12461240)
Haley 2024! :thumbsup:

...but seriously if the GOP ever decides to go back to doing traditional conservatism instead of playing the politics of Know NothingWP isolationism & white Christian grievance, I think she has a good shot at becoming the U.S. version of Margaret Thatcher.

I think she may be positioning herself for a run in 2020, should Trump for any reason not run (impeachment, resignation, death, illness). I think she'll be true to her word if Trump does run for re-election, but she's ready to try to salvage the mess that the GOP has become if he doesn't.

Segnosaur 11th October 2018 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CORed (Post 12461437)
I think she'll be true to her word if Trump does run for re-election, but she's ready to try to salvage the mess that the GOP has become if he doesn't.

How exactly do you mean 'salvage the mess the GOP has become'?

Do you mean lead them to election victory? That may be possible (although i have no idea of how good a campaigner she is).

Or do you mean "fix the underlying problems with the GOP, getting rid of the incompetence, extreme partisanship and evangelical/tea party influence"? If its the latter, what makes you think she'd have that ability? She seemed to be quite happy living in the swamp that is Trump's administration, and seems quite eager to support him. Looks like she's just as much of a scumbag as all the other republicans.


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