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Trebuchet 29th March 2018 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 12237390)
I think Pruitt is next. He was caught living in the condo of an Energy Lobbyist.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclu...ry?id=54095310

Totally draining that swamp and keeping the lobbyists out.

Nothing wrong with that when you're in the MAGA administration. Trump'll want to give him a bonus.

mgidm86 29th March 2018 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz (Post 12236743)
We had a button back in '69.... "Where's Lee Harvey Oswald When You Really Need Him?"

Another button: "If you have to tell the world that you are not a complete idiot, then you are a complete idiot"

quadraginta 29th March 2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mgidm86 (Post 12237441)
Another button: "If you have to tell the world that you are not a complete idiot, then you are a complete idiot"


Really big button? Or really small type?

Tee shirt? Yeah. I could see it on a tee shirt.

KatieG 29th March 2018 07:01 PM

Hope Hicks is out! Will we miss her?

Trebuchet 29th March 2018 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KatieG (Post 12237846)
Hope Hicks is out! Will we miss her?

That's been a while now....
But of course, Trump wants her spouse-abusing boyfriend back so I guess there's hope for Hope.

Foolmewunz 29th March 2018 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 12237390)
I think Pruitt is next. He was caught living in the condo of an Energy Lobbyist.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclu...ry?id=54095310

Totally draining that swamp and keeping the lobbyists out.

I think that the EPA spokesliar may be the first to go from this story.

From the linked ABC article:
Quote:

EPA spokesman Jahan Wilcox declined to answer questions about the arrangement.
This is Trumpworld, folks. He'll call up Murdoch and get himself another on-air hootchie. You don't decline to comment. It's a jump to the left... then a step to the right.... ** And pretty soon we're doing the Truth Warp Again.

**Don't forget the pelvic thrust. In this admin, where twerking can be listed on your c.v. as a skill, that's probably the most important for getting a chick job, amiright?

alfaniner 30th March 2018 04:38 AM

Mueller. Today. It's Firing Friday, after all.

phiwum 30th March 2018 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12238123)
Mueller. Today. It's Firing Friday, after all.

Bold suggestion. Won't happen, but if it does, you win big.

TellyKNeasuss 30th March 2018 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle (Post 12237390)
I think Pruitt is next. He was caught living in the condo of an Energy Lobbyist.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclu...ry?id=54095310

Totally draining that swamp and keeping the lobbyists out.

According to ABC News, his daughter also stayed in the condo...

Trebuchet 30th March 2018 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KatieG (Post 12237846)
Hope Hicks is out! Will we miss her?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12237861)
That's been a while now....
But of course, Trump wants her spouse-abusing boyfriend back so I guess there's hope for Hope.

My apologies, Katie, I didn't realize she was still hanging around the WH and yesterday was her last day.

CapelDodger 30th March 2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KatieG (Post 12237846)
Hope Hicks is out! Will we miss her?

There's an opening in prospect on FoxNews. In the spirit of Holy Week, Laura Ingraham is getting herself crucified.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/4...oting-survivor

quadraginta 30th March 2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CapelDodger (Post 12238567)
There's an opening in prospect on FoxNews. In the spirit of Holy Week, Laura Ingraham is getting herself crucified.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/4...oting-survivor

Quote:

"in the spirit of Holy Week, I will apologize once my show starts hemorrhaging advertising money" https://t.co/6xOzcL0xPZ

-- Mark Follman (@markfollman) March 29, 2018
A response to her tweet, quoted in the above article.

Well said. And possibly true on more than one level.

tyr_13 30th March 2018 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12238781)
A response to her tweet, quoted in the above article.

Well said. And possibly true on more than one level.

Conservatives have promised a counter-boycott. That is, they plan to boycott any advertisers who stop supporting Ingraham.

There are several problems with this. Most of Ingraham's audience is obviously right-wing, but most consumers for these businesses are going to be left or center. At that point it comes down to who cares more. So what is the counter-boycott supporting? Mocking a teen survivor of a mass shooting for getting rejected from some colleges and having a 4.1 GPA... At one time I would have said that it would be a slam dunk that people would care more about condemning such behavior than supporting it. However, the last year has shown that 80-90% of the remaining GOP is really that vile. That means now I don't know.

Business wise, that's a tough call for those companies. They obviously found value in advertising on her program before. Morality wise, better to make the call that hurts business a little more than support such bad behavior, especially when the business call is that close.

a_unique_person 30th March 2018 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12238781)
A response to her tweet, quoted in the above article.

Well said. And possibly true on more than one level.

In the spirit of holy week I will eat twice as much chocolate on Sunday.

Doubt 31st March 2018 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12237432)
Nothing wrong with that when you're in the MAGA administration. Trump'll want to give him a bonus.

Pruitt will get nailed if it becomes embarrassing to Trump. Even faster if Pruitt gets on the cover of Time.

Norman Alexander 31st March 2018 08:10 PM

Well, now there's this...

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/m...jpg&w=300&q=85
Quote:

Trump has never forgiven him [for recusing himself]. In public and private, the President has denigrated the proud former Senator, calling him an “idiot,” “beleaguered” and “disgraceful.” ... The broken relationship has turned the job of a lifetime into an exercise in humiliation. Rumors that Sessions’ neck is on the chopping block are constant, and Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt has been angling to replace him.
http://time.com/5220086/jeff-session...-keep-his-job/

So now Jeff's ugly mug is on the cover of Time magazine for real, unlike Donny's pathetic fake copies. Which will please the Orange Narcissist-in-Chief no end. So who thinks Jeff's position is still safe?

Foolmewunz 1st April 2018 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12239651)
Well, now there's this...

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/m...jpg&w=300&q=85

http://time.com/5220086/jeff-session...-keep-his-job/

So now Jeff's ugly mug is on the cover of Time magazine for real, unlike Donny's pathetic fake copies. Which will please the Orange Narcissist-in-Chief no end. So who thinks Jeff's position is still safe?

It cannot be an accident that Trump, on Friday, in addition to declaring this the Be Nice to Wominz Month, also declared it Hey Let's Let Bygones be Bygones Month and is supporting (for now) a bipartisan effort to make nice-nice with former prisoners and felons. Hang 'em High Jefferson the Traitor Elf has got to be totally against that effort.

FenerFan 1st April 2018 02:17 AM

Interesting story about ex-VA boss Shulkin in Politico.

Quote:

The White House is now asserting that recently departed Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin resigned. Shulkin has made it clear in his public comments that he was forced out.
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In announcing the removal of Shulkin as VA secretary, Trump tapped Defense Department official Robert Wilkie as the acting leader of the department, bypassing Shulkin’s deputy, who was next in line to succeed him. That decision has reignited a debate among legal experts about the president’s ability to hand-pick replacements for ousted Cabinet secretaries.
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The debate centers on vague language in the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998, which gives the president broad authority to temporarily fill a vacancy at a federal agency with an acting official if the current office holder “dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office.”
Quote:

But some legal experts note that the law does not explicitly grant that authority to the president in the case of firings. That could make Trump’s decision to appoint Wilkie, the under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness, as acting VA secretary a potential test of the president’s authorities under the act.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...eterans-492877

It's interesting because if Trump fires Sessions he might want to replace him with someone other than Deputy AG Rosenstein. Of course, it would probably be someone who would fire Meuller.

Craig4 1st April 2018 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12239651)
Well, now there's this...

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/m...jpg&w=300&q=85

http://time.com/5220086/jeff-session...-keep-his-job/

So now Jeff's ugly mug is on the cover of Time magazine for real, unlike Donny's pathetic fake copies. Which will please the Orange Narcissist-in-Chief no end. So who thinks Jeff's position is still safe?

Oh Jeffy won't get fired for this. He's going to have to stay around and get kicked in the groin in public for a while longer now.

Norman Alexander 1st April 2018 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12239829)
Oh Jeffy won't get fired for this. He's going to have to stay around and get kicked in the groin in public for a while longer now.

LOL.

I dunno. Donny takes perceived insults like this very personally. Hence trying to wind back everything Obama did after the public roasting. And perhaps Sessions is having a little dig back at Donny with this. Jeffy may be an elf, but he is also not a fool. He will know this would rile the tangerine twat.

jimbob 1st April 2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12240161)
LOL.

I dunno. Donny takes perceived insults like this very personally. Hence trying to wind back everything Obama did after the public roasting. And perhaps Sessions is having a little dig back at Donny with this. Jeffy may be an elf, but he is also not a fool. He will know this would rile the tangerine twat.

I think that's Craig's point. That a simple firing wouldn't be sufficient but he'd need to be humiliated beforehand.

quadraginta 1st April 2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 12240184)
I think that's Craig's point. That a simple firing wouldn't be sufficient but he'd need to be humiliated beforehand.


That, and Jeffy needs to be out of town. Trump seems to be too chicken to fire someone to their face, and the higher their position the farther away he seems to need them to be when he does it. (Or more likely, has someone to do it for him.)

Foolmewunz 1st April 2018 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12240207)
That, and Jeffy needs to be out of town. Trump seems to be too chicken to fire someone to their face, and the higher their position the farther away he seems to need them to be when he does it. (Or more likely, has someone to do it for him.)

Surely, you jest. This is Donnie Johnny who gets chauffeurs to lie about him breaking up beat downs, who would've single-handedly won the war in Vietnam if not for those burn spores or whatever they were, who would've rushed into the school in Parkland even without a weapon, who won a scripted fight with Vince McMahon! Surely you're not saying our BatmanJohnWayneAudieMurphy president, who has balls the size of his hands, would be afraid to face down an actual real person.

Craig4 2nd April 2018 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 12240184)
I think that's Craig's point. That a simple firing wouldn't be sufficient but he'd need to be humiliated beforehand.

Exactly, the evil little elf will have to burn in public for this transgression before Trump puts him out of his misery.

Foolmewunz 2nd April 2018 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12240504)
Exactly, the evil little elf will have to burn in public for this transgression before Trump puts him out of his misery.

And, try as I might, it's really hard to do a mitzvah and feel bad about how these people are treated. I mean... we're talking about Jeff Sessions, Steve Bannon, The Mooch, Flynn, Paulie Ukraine.... I'm having a hard time mustering all that much sympathy.

It's possible to enjoy the watching of Trump's cabal circling the drain AND a bunch of smarmy insidious individuals getting their just desserts even if from the wrong source.

Craig4 2nd April 2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz (Post 12240569)
And, try as I might, it's really hard to do a mitzvah and feel bad about how these people are treated. I mean... we're talking about Jeff Sessions, Steve Bannon, The Mooch, Flynn, Paulie Ukraine.... I'm having a hard time mustering all that much sympathy.

It's possible to enjoy the watching of Trump's cabal circling the drain AND a bunch of smarmy insidious individuals getting their just desserts even if from the wrong source.

Most of The Hair's broken toys were either trying to use a Trump administration to enrich themselves (Manafort, Gates) or thought he would be a good vehicle for their own screwed up agendas. Unless there's more dirt on Sessions, it's unfortunate that the vile creature will probably come out a hero in all this.

Norman Alexander 2nd April 2018 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12240661)
Most of The Hair's broken toys were either trying to use a Trump administration to enrich themselves (Manafort, Gates) or thought he would be a good vehicle for their own screwed up agendas. Unless there's more dirt on Sessions, it's unfortunate that the vile creature will probably come out a hero in all this.

That was my thinking.

Donny has already tried to grossly humiliate Jeffy from the day he recused himself. It's been pretty much non-stop so it's not like any added humiliation is going to make things worse. How many more times can he get kicked in the balls in public and still keep the joke funny? There's a point where the slapstick loses it's joke capacity, and the victim becomes an object of sympathy, or, at least, empathy, and the perpetrator no longer the jokester but a torturer. Donny, having no empathetic bone in his body, will have no clue.

So now the Elf has now managed to get himself on the cover of Time fer realz as a serious guy, while Donny hasn't except as political cartoon satire (or the "fake Times" covers). So while Donny gets pissed off at this, Jeffy continues to get sympathy votes the more Donny derides him.

ETA: IMHO neither Jeffy nor Donny are nice people. Neither should be anywhere near the reins of power.

dudalb 3rd April 2018 10:56 AM

Apparently Pruitt has gone from being a Trump favorite to being on the verge of being removed from office in less then two weeks.

Hellbound 3rd April 2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12242326)
Apparently Pruitt has gone from being a Trump favorite to being on the verge of being removed from office in less then two weeks.

So, pretty much a normal run for this administration, then?

dudalb 3rd April 2018 11:24 AM

I think the problem with Pruitt is not with what he did, but he was stupid enough not make a effort to conceal it. To use an old expression about sex,problem is not with what he did, but that he did in the middle of the street and frightened the horses....

a_unique_person 3rd April 2018 05:17 PM

Pruitt? Who's Pruitt?

quadraginta 3rd April 2018 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12242826)
Pruitt? Who's Pruitt?


Coffee boy.

Trebuchet 3rd April 2018 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12242326)
Apparently Pruitt has gone from being a Trump favorite to being on the verge of being removed from office in less then two weeks.

NOTHING makes you as much as an outcast in the Trump administration as making Trump look bad. Two weeks ago, it looked like he'd be replacing Jefferson (Davis) Sessions about now.

DRAIN THE SWAMP!

CapelDodger 3rd April 2018 06:46 PM

Rosentein's name has come up.

Memo shows Mueller explicitly tasked with Manafort-Russia collusion claims
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tigation-scope

Quote:

The memo, which remains redacted in parts, said that Mueller was empowered to investigate allegations that Manafort “committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials” to interfere with the presidential election.

None of the charges Manafort faces alleges coordination with the Kremlin, and Manafort’s attorneys had used that point to argue that Mueller exceeded his authority by accusing him of financial crimes and acting as an unregistered foreign agent on behalf of Ukrainian interests.

But Monday’s filing appears to undercut that argument. In addition to authorizing the Russia collusion investigation of Manafort, Rosenstein also authorized Mueller to investigate any crimes related to payments Manafort received from the Ukrainian government under former president Viktor Yanukovych.
It appears that Rosenstein, by explicitly casting the net so wide, was out to get Manafort, and why would he want to do that if not to get Trump himself through Manafort? It's so Deep State it's positively abyssal.

Rosenstein next.

CapelDodger 3rd April 2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12242826)
Pruitt? Who's Pruitt?

Don't think I ever met the man. Pruitt? Odd name, I'm sure I'd have remembered it. What is that, a Baltic name? Don't recall ever meeting any Balic people.

I met some Balkan people earlier, fine people, very sound on the Fake Media issue.

Norman Alexander 5th April 2018 06:58 PM

Or could it be Mike Cohen, the suck-up but dispensable lawyer being thrown to the wolves?

Quote:

In his first public comments on the allegations, he was asked by reporters on Air Force One if he knew about the payment, and Trump said “No”. When was asked why Cohen made the payment, Trump said: “You’ll have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael is my attorney. You’ll have to ask Michael.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...payment-denial

Craig4 6th April 2018 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12246185)
Or could it be Mike Cohen, the suck-up but dispensable lawyer being thrown to the wolves?



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...payment-denial

Two points, the denial came from Trump so he knew about the payment. If we go through the motions of believing Trump, Cohen is in some trouble for campaign finance law violations.

Crossbow 6th April 2018 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12246185)
Or could it be Mike Cohen, the suck-up but dispensable lawyer being thrown to the wolves?



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...payment-denial

I was wondering about the same thing.

After all, Trump just threw Michael Cohen (his own lawyer) under the bus at a time when Trump is having a difficult time retaining his own law team in order to deal with the Muller investigation.

I guess Trump really does hate lawyers even when he sorely needs lawyers.

alfaniner 6th April 2018 06:25 AM

Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kellyyyyyyy!
CNN has taken to calling the end of the week "Firing Friday", or "FireDay".

acbytesla 6th April 2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12246537)
Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kellyyyyyyy!
CNN has taken to calling the end of the week "Firing Friday", or "FireDay".

I think Pruitt is next up in the batter's box or the on deck circle. Did you see the way Fox News tore into him?

alfaniner 6th April 2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 12246932)
I think Pruitt is next up in the batter's box or the on deck circle. Did you see the way Fox News tore into him?

Just this week The PDJT talked about replacing Kelly with Pruitt, so Pruitt my be one rung higher.

acbytesla 6th April 2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12246962)
Just this week The PDJT talked about replacing Kelly with Pruitt, so Pruitt my be one rung higher.

So they're both gone?

Craig4 6th April 2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12246962)
Just this week The PDJT talked about replacing Kelly with Pruitt, so Pruitt my be one rung higher.

And the chief of staff doesn't have to get confirmed by the Senate.

dudalb 6th April 2018 02:01 PM

I think even Donnie knows that after the lastest scandals Pruitt would not stand a chance of being approved as AG,so Chief of Staff is a possibility.Thing is, in any other administration Pruitt would have been gone by now.

alfaniner 6th April 2018 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12247299)
Thing is, in any other administration Pruitt would have been gone by now.

In any other administration Trump would have been gone by now.
:p

varwoche 7th April 2018 07:41 AM

The landlords were unable to get Pruitt out of the condo, so they changed the locks. <laughing dog goes here>

Trebuchet 7th April 2018 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12247299)
I think even Donnie knows that after the lastest scandals Pruitt would not stand a chance of being approved as AG,so Chief of Staff is a possibility.Thing is, in any other administration Pruitt would have been gone by now.

I think I saw somewhere that he wouldn't have to be approved for AG because he was already approved for EPA and can move to another cabinet-level position without further Senate action. Can anyone verify?

Stacko 7th April 2018 08:26 AM

What is Scott Pruitt afraid of?

Quote:

Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt’s concern with his safety came at a steep cost to taxpayers as his swollen security detail blew through overtime budgets and at times diverted officers away from investigating environmental crimes.

Altogether, the agency spent millions of dollars for a 20-member full-time detail that is more than three times the size of his predecessor’s part-time security contingent.

New details in Pruitt’s expansive spending for security and travel emerged from agency sources and documents reviewed by The Associated Press. They come as the embattled EPA leader fends off allegations of profligate spending and ethical missteps that have imperiled his job.

Shortly after arriving in Washington, Pruitt demoted the career staff member heading his security detail and replaced him with EPA Senior Special Agent Pasquale “Nino” Perrotta, a former Secret Service agent who operates a private security company.

An EPA official with direct knowledge of Pruitt’s security spending says Perrotta oversaw a rapid expansion of the EPA chief’s security detail to accommodate guarding him day and night, even on family vacations and when Pruitt was home in Oklahoma. The EPA official spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.
Should I be afraid of it too?

Trebuchet 7th April 2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacko (Post 12248033)
What is Scott Pruitt afraid of?



Should I be afraid of it too?

He's worried about radical treehugging terrorists, of course. Environmentalists = terrorists has been a right wing meme for quite a while now.

phiwum 7th April 2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12248099)
He's worried about radical treehugging terrorists, of course. Environmentalists = terrorists has been a right wing meme for quite a while now.

I am familiar with examples of animal rights terrorism, but I'm drawing a blank on environmental terrorism. There must be some, since most movements have extremists. Anyone?

I don't count the Unabomber.


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