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PhantomWolf 7th May 2018 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by logger (Post 12285008)
I honestly believe no democrat would be able to stop these dictators. Democrats are cowards and seem to have a soft spot for people like this. The leave them alone and they’ll leave us alone crap.

Trump on the other hand seems to be able to break these walls down, he has the knowledge to make these things happen. I know dems hate it and probably will soon be routing for Kim, which will also be fun to watch.

Nice rant, how about answering the question?

Norman Alexander 7th May 2018 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by logger (Post 12285008)
I honestly believe no democrat would be able to stop these dictators. Democrats are cowards and seem to have a soft spot for people like this. The leave them alone and they’ll leave us alone crap.

Trump on the other hand seems to be able to break these walls down, he has the knowledge to make these things happen. I know dems hate it and probably will soon be routing for Kim, which will also be fun to watch.

Now you are just ****-stirring.

Crossbow 8th May 2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by logger (Post 12285008)
I honestly believe no democrat would be able to stop these dictators. Democrats are cowards and seem to have a soft spot for people like this. The leave them alone and they’ll leave us alone crap.

Trump on the other hand seems to be able to break these walls down, he has the knowledge to make these things happen. I know dems hate it and probably will soon be routing for Kim, which will also be fun to watch.

If you can find a way to say this sort of nonsense on 'Fox and Friends', then Trump may offer you a job as one of his lackeys.

Giordano 8th May 2018 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12285108)
Now you are just ****-stirring.

Edited- never mind my intended comment. I was just stating the obvious...

dudalb 8th May 2018 02:54 PM

Trump stop those dictators?
Hell, Trump envies them...

Trebuchet 8th May 2018 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12285086)
He not only embraces them, he envies them. That's how he'd like to rule.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12285868)
Trump stop those dictators?
Hell, Trump envies them...

Ninja'd!

Craig4 12th May 2018 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by logger (Post 12285008)
I honestly believe no democrat would be able to stop these dictators. Democrats are cowards and seem to have a soft spot for people like this. The leave them alone and they’ll leave us alone crap.

Trump on the other hand seems to be able to break these walls down, he has the knowledge to make these things happen. I know dems hate it and probably will soon be routing for Kim, which will also be fun to watch.

I forget, which party did Roosevelt and Truman belong to. Remind me.

Doubt 12th May 2018 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12290484)
I forget, which party did Roosevelt and Truman belong to. Remind me.

How dare you use actual history to frame the way you think about current events. You are supposed to treat the future of political leadership as a team sport where history, ethics, and morality are irrelevant as long as your side wins. Who wins is the only thing that matters. **** the future or any sense of principled reasoning.

d4m10n 16th May 2018 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12290484)
I forget, which party did Roosevelt and Truman belong to. Remind me.

I really don't think any references to party affiliation prior to 1972 are going to reflect the composition and motivations of the major parties in the U.S. at present.

Crossbow 31st May 2018 06:46 AM

By the way, ...

Jeff Sessions is once again at the top of the Trump crap list, so Sessions may be the next lackey to get his walking papers.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/30/61543...-than-sessions

Trump: 'I Wish I Did' Pick A Different Attorney General Than Sessions

President Trump resumed his attacks against Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Wednesday following reports that he had asked Sessions to un-recuse himself from the Russia investigation — and after more erosion of Trump's claim that the FBI spied on his campaign.

...

Trump quoted Gowdy and added his own epigram: " ' ... There are lots of really good lawyers in the country, he could have picked somebody else!' And I wish I did!"

...

Giordano 31st May 2018 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 12311017)
By the way, ...

Jeff Sessions is once again at the top of the Trump crap list, so Sessions may be the next lackey to get his walking papers.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/30/61543...-than-sessions

Trump: 'I Wish I Did' Pick A Different Attorney General Than Sessions

President Trump resumed his attacks against Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Wednesday following reports that he had asked Sessions to un-recuse himself from the Russia investigation — and after more erosion of Trump's claim that the FBI spied on his campaign.

...

Trump quoted Gowdy and added his own epigram: " ' ... There are lots of really good lawyers in the country, he could have picked somebody else!' And I wish I did!"

...

I'll state this more politely than I might have: have you ever flushed a toilet and had a piece of toilet paper just circle, circle the drain multiple times without ever quite going all the way down and out? Just when you think it is finally going down the drain it floats up again or catches against the side? Sessions reminds me of that piece of toilet paper.

However for all his other deep flaws I do appreciate Sessions's recusing himself and his resistance to firing Mueller.

TheL8Elvis 5th June 2018 07:41 AM

“BOLTON IS NOT A BIG TEAM PLAYER”: INSIDE THE LOOMING BOLTON-POMPEO SHOWDOWN
As Trump prepares to meet Kim, administration sources worry that the president’s two boldest advisers are on a collision course. “State is just out in the pastures,” says a current staffer—and Bolton is not here to make friends.

Rumors regarding Pompeo and Bolton butting heads....consensus is Bolton loses if that happens.

Doubt 5th June 2018 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis (Post 12316363)
“BOLTON IS NOT A BIG TEAM PLAYER”: INSIDE THE LOOMING BOLTON-POMPEO SHOWDOWN
As Trump prepares to meet Kim, administration sources worry that the president’s two boldest advisers are on a collision course. “State is just out in the pastures,” says a current staffer—and Bolton is not here to make friends.

Rumors regarding Pompeo and Bolton butting heads....consensus is Bolton loses if that happens.

Thunderdome!

Two blowhards enter. Only one leaves. (If we have to keep one, then let it be Pompeo.)

logger 5th June 2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doubt (Post 12290489)
How dare you use actual history to frame the way you think about current events. You are supposed to treat the future of political leadership as a team sport where history, ethics, and morality are irrelevant as long as your side wins. Who wins is the only thing that matters. **** the future or any sense of principled reasoning.

To bad Roosevelt and Truman are irrelevant. It wasn’t principled reasoning, it was to prove my point and continue to show he’s in denial.

dudalb 5th June 2018 01:57 PM

Pruitt is in play again with the WAPO's Chick A Filet story...

d4m10n 5th June 2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12316822)
Pruitt is in play again with the WAPO's Chick A Filet story...

This one?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...c4c_story.html

Doubt 5th June 2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by logger (Post 12316498)
To bad Roosevelt and Truman are irrelevant. It wasn’t principled reasoning, it was to prove my point and continue to show he’s in denial.

They are not irrelevant.

But we can also add Clinton to that list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...hold_Democracy

dudalb 5th June 2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12316889)

Yup.
Penny Ante stuff as corruption goes,but it's more that the new stories about Pruitt never stop that are wrecking him.
In any normal administration, he would have been gone a long time ago.

Trebuchet 5th June 2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis (Post 12316363)
“BOLTON IS NOT A BIG TEAM PLAYER”: INSIDE THE LOOMING BOLTON-POMPEO SHOWDOWN
As Trump prepares to meet Kim, administration sources worry that the president’s two boldest advisers are on a collision course. “State is just out in the pastures,” says a current staffer—and Bolton is not here to make friends.

Rumors regarding Pompeo and Bolton butting heads....consensus is Bolton loses if that happens.

All Bolton needs to do is convince Trump that bombing Pyonyang and Tehran on the same day will guarantee him the Nobel. And he's right there in the West Wing. And Trump is dumb enough to believe it.

chrispy 5th June 2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12317079)
Yup.
Penny Ante stuff as corruption goes,but it's more that the new stories about Pruitt never stop that are wrecking him.
In any normal administration, he would have been gone a long time ago.

In normal administration he never would have been nominated or made it through vetting or confirmed or...

Craig4 5th June 2018 05:52 PM

I am very disappointed in the Bitch Queen of the Briefing Room. She was handed more than one golden opportunity to damage the president by resigning in protest over being forced to lie behind the podium and she has refused to take them. To not take an opportunity to damage Trump is unpatriotic and a betrayal of her country.

phiwum 5th June 2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispy (Post 12317109)
In normal administration he never would have been nominated or made it through vetting or confirmed or...

Aside from the fact that Pruitt loathes the EPA, why wouldn't he make it through vetting? I don't recall any scandals of this sort when he was in Oklahoma.

He seems to think that federal dollars are free for the spending, of course.

phiwum 5th June 2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12317116)
I am very disappointed in the Bitch Queen of the Briefing Room. She was handed more than one golden opportunity to damage the president by resigning in protest over being forced to lie behind the podium and she has refused to take them. To not take an opportunity to damage Trump is unpatriotic and a betrayal of her country.

She's a believer. I think much as I despise her, she's telling the truth as she knows it. She works hard not to know much of it, but there are few times that I suspect she lies rather than was lied to.

Still, we'd be better off without her and with someone more principled in reporting facts.

quadraginta 5th June 2018 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12317161)
She's a believer. I think much as I despise her, she's telling the truth as she knows it. She works hard not to know much of it, but there are few times that I suspect she lies rather than was lied to.

Still, we'd be better off without her and with someone more principled in reporting facts.


How many are a "few"?

How few are too many?

thaiboxerken 5th June 2018 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12317161)
She's a believer. I think much as I despise her, she's telling the truth as she knows it.

One would have to be a drooling moron to believe the lies Trump tells, particularly since they change all the time resulting in contradictions.

quadraginta 6th June 2018 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12317398)
One would have to be a drooling moron to believe the lies Trump tells, particularly since they change all the time resulting in contradictions.


Those lies are expired. They were past their Use By date. (Or time, mebbe, if they happened to be in the same sentence. Not that that would ever happen. :rolleyes:)

They have been appropriately discarded and are no longer in service.

phiwum 6th June 2018 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12317370)
How many are a "few"?

How few are too many?

There's no occasion that I can say, with anything approaching certainty, that Sanders lied. She works hard not to know much, I think, so that she can't say much. Some of what she's said is false, no doubt, but I don't have any evidence that she knew so.

She's a horrible person, but she seems to be doing her job without lying. She's not doing it with any responsibility for the press or nation, but I can't name a single time that she's knowingly said something false. (There are times she might have done so, but we aren't in a position to know what she knew.)

phiwum 6th June 2018 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12317398)
One would have to be a drooling moron to believe the lies Trump tells, particularly since they change all the time resulting in contradictions.

That's a point, but her job isn't to determine when Trump lies but to express his views in public.

It's not a noble profession.

Stacko 6th June 2018 11:42 AM

How is this guy still around?
I asked Scott Pruitt a quick question about the reports he tried to help his wife become a Chick-fil-A franchisee.

"With great change comes, I think, opposition...I love, she loves [Chick-fil-A]"
That is an amazing collection of non sequiturs in defense of blatant corruption.

dudalb 6th June 2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispy (Post 12317109)
In normal administration he never would have been nominated or made it through vetting or confirmed or...

This, if you wanted to dismantle the EPA, there are much more subtle and less obivious way to do it. You don't proclaim that, you say you just want to make it more "efficient" and " cost effective".
WIth Pruitt it's a case of,in the words of Bart Simpson, "Way Too Obvious, Dude".

dudalb 6th June 2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacko (Post 12317829)

IMHO even a lot of Republicans think Pruitt has to go, he has just become too much of an embarrassment.

Trebuchet 6th June 2018 12:13 PM

Kelly "He's dying anyway" Sadler is officially gone.

chrispy 6th June 2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12317155)
Aside from the fact that Pruitt loathes the EPA, why wouldn't he make it through vetting? I don't recall any scandals of this sort when he was in Oklahoma.

He seems to think that federal dollars are free for the spending, of course.

Yes, aside from loathing the EPA. Which was well known and why, in a normal administration, he wouldn't have passed muster.

Lurch 6th June 2018 01:22 PM

Grifty grifters on the grift, like Pruitt, should have to pay back the full valuation of every griftily grifted acquisition immediately upon termination.

d4m10n 6th June 2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurch (Post 12317962)
Grifty grifters on the grift, like Pruitt, should have to pay back the full valuation of every griftily grifted acquisition immediately upon termination.

Surely you mean grafty grafters.

Doubt 6th June 2018 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12317996)
Surely you mean grafty grafters.

How many gifts could a grifty grafter grift if a grifty grafter could graft gifts?

Stacko 6th June 2018 02:24 PM

State TV is turning on Pruitt.

dudalb 6th June 2018 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispy (Post 12317926)
Yes, aside from loathing the EPA. Which was well known and why, in a normal administration, he wouldn't have passed muster.

As I stated, if you wanted to neuter the EPA, there were much smarter ways to do it.

dudalb 6th June 2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacko (Post 12318029)

If Faux News is turning on Pruitt, he is not long for the political world....

phiwum 6th June 2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispy (Post 12317926)
Yes, aside from loathing the EPA. Which was well known and why, in a normal administration, he wouldn't have passed muster.

Yeah, okay, most presidents tend not to appoint persons who hate their department. I thought you meant that his tendency for scandal was well known.

Norman Alexander 6th June 2018 07:11 PM

Seems Donny is going to try to run the place on his own now all his buddies are getting the chop.

Quote:

As Trump approaches 500 days in office, unleashing a daily barrage of remarks, tweets, insults, pardons and threats, teeing up a global trade war and chasing an on-off-on meeting with Kim, the restraints are off and the fabled “adults in the room” appear scarcer than ever. It is, critics say, not so much a team of rivals as a team of one. Donald Trump.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ng-white-house

Trebuchet 6th June 2018 07:49 PM

A Pruitt lackey has had enough. Even after he gave her a $28,000 raise.

dudalb 7th June 2018 03:24 PM

And yet another Pruitt story:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sc...ort/ar-AAymbrm

Once again, a minor indicent, but fits in with the patteren of a totally corrupt man...

Craig4 7th June 2018 05:15 PM

Watching The Bitch Queen of the Briefing Room, I hear the song "Misses Robinson" even louder in the background. She may be off to place where she can stroll the grounds until she feels at home.

dudalb 13th June 2018 05:40 PM

Apparently Conservative support for Pruitt is crumbling, with several conservative commentators calling for him to be ousted today.
I think he will be gone by the end of June.

Firestone 13th June 2018 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12326629)
Apparently Conservative support for Pruitt is crumbling, with several conservative commentators calling for him to be ousted today.
I think he will be gone by the end of June.

Even Oklahoma senator Inhofe has had it with Pruitt:

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Senator James Inhofe on Wednesday said he agrees that EPA chief Scott Pruitt, his longtime friend and fellow Oklahoman, is hurting the president, has shown bad judgment and is making the entire administration look bad.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/13/scot...ing-trump.html
To sum it up:

"Even Roy Cohn would tell Trump to fire Scott Pruitt at this point"

https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/sta...47356368474112

Norman Alexander 13th June 2018 11:41 PM

What??
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Senator James Inhofe on Wednesday said he agrees that EPA chief Scott Pruitt, his longtime friend and fellow Oklahoman, is hurting the president, has shown bad judgment and is making the entire administration look bad.
What about the incumbent twat at the Resolution desk! He's the worst offender of them all! So when does he get shown the gold-painted door?

Worm 14th June 2018 12:18 AM

I don't mean to be that guy but.....

* Resolute Desk

Firestone 14th June 2018 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12326886)
What??
What about the incumbent twat at the Resolution desk! He's the worst offender of them all! So when does he get shown the gold-painted door?

Come on, don't you know article 1 of the US constitution?

"When the president does it, it doesn’t really matter whether it’s legal or not because he can just pardon himself anyway."

Norman Alexander 14th June 2018 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Worm (Post 12326902)
I don't mean to be that guy but.....

* Resolute Desk

You were, and I happily stand corrected.

:)


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