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Crossbow 28th September 2018 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 12445622)
The meeting was delayed until next week.

OK thanks.

So then next week we might see another Trump meltdown about the Russian Collusion issue.

phiwum 28th September 2018 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12440817)
If one thing comes out of this it will hopefully be the ability of pundits to pronounce "Rosenstein" correctly. (ends like "Frankenstein".)

Yes, though everyone pronounces Weinstein like " weinstien" for some reason.

The Great Zaganza 28th September 2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12440817)
If one thing comes out of this it will hopefully be the ability of pundits to pronounce "Rosenstein" correctly. (ends like "Frankenstein".)

Let me guess:
you are from The Berenstain Bears parallel universe.

Crossbow 9th October 2018 05:26 AM

Well now,

Mr. Rosenstein has managed to dodg the Trump ax (at least for now):

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-c...anaugh-a-hoax/

Trump calls attacks on Kavanaugh a "hoax"

...

The president also said he has no plans to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who accompanied him to Orlando. Mr. Trump told reporters he has a "very good relationship" with Rosenstein, aside from the Russia investigation.

...

Firestone 9th October 2018 07:17 AM

Nikki Haley has resigned!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/u...e=sectionfront

ETA: will leave at the end of the year, says Trump.

C_Felix 9th October 2018 07:43 AM

Nimrata is gone.

TofuFighter 9th October 2018 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim (Post 12440265)
FWIW, there's a spreadsheet here of every departure from the Trump administration. 387 to date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12440469)
Great find!

:D:D:D "time in Mooches"
so help me I went to find the Mooch and it was a perfect 1.0

Trebuchet 9th October 2018 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 12458758)
Nikki Haley has resigned!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/u...e=sectionfront

ETA: will leave at the end of the year, says Trump.

Who'd want to be UN Ambassador with noted UN-hater John Bolton in the White House?

d4m10n 9th October 2018 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 12458758)
Nikki Haley has resigned!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/u...e=sectionfront

ETA: will leave at the end of the year, says Trump.

Wonder if anyone else (of any note) will beat her out the door...?

Darat 9th October 2018 10:05 AM

Classic Trump. To paraphrase "she's done a great job,... we've done many great things."

Crossbow 9th October 2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12458894)
Who'd want to be UN Ambassador with noted UN-hater John Bolton in the White House?

Oh heck!

I will take her job. After all, it probably pays about $150,000 per year plus expenses.

I will just milk it along for a year or two until Trump gets impeached or Trump fires me, and by then I will have my house paid off so that I can retire.

Norman Alexander 9th October 2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12458894)
Who'd want to be UN Ambassador with noted UN-hater John Bolton in the White House?

Given the Trump management style of ignoring or actively denigrating positions that are "not in their political interest", they will likely just leave the position of US Ambassador to the UN vacant now.

As you say, they are actively opposed or at least could not care less about the UN as a concept. Just as they are with a whole lot of other government departments like State, or Education. So if they can ignore the whole thing, they will. Expect either some clueless flunky or nobody (much the same thing) to fill the vacancy.

C_Felix 9th October 2018 03:36 PM

Nikki Haley's resignation comes one day after an ethics watchdog requested an investigation into her acceptance of free flights on private jets

Coincidence?
Causation?

https://www.businessinsider.com/nikk...e-jets-2018-10

Craig4 9th October 2018 04:18 PM

She will be appointed as the new South Carolina Senator when Lindsey Graham becomes AG.

Trebuchet 9th October 2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 12459024)
Oh heck!

I will take her job. After all, it probably pays about $150,000 per year plus expenses.

I will just milk it along for a year or two until Trump gets impeached or Trump fires me, and by then I will have my house paid off so that I can retire.

You'd have to live in NYC. Fine for many people, obviously, but not for me.

Craig4 9th October 2018 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 12459024)
Oh heck!

I will take her job. After all, it probably pays about $150,000 per year plus expenses.

I will just milk it along for a year or two until Trump gets impeached or Trump fires me, and by then I will have my house paid off so that I can retire.

Her base salary is $187,000. In addition, she resides in her official residence, a suite of rooms in the Waldorf Astoria Hotel provided rent free to her. She has representational funds and can use that money to pay for household staff but only to support "representational" functions. For instance, she can't hire a nanny for her kids but if she hosts an official function she can hire a nanny to watch the kids of her guests.

TheSupermeerkat 10th October 2018 12:46 AM

Nikki Haley: the latest Trump enabler to ruin her shot at redemption

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-un-reputation

[blockquote] Nikki Haley wants you to know that she’s not quitting her awesome, once-in-a-lifetime job to spend more time with her family.

This is a rare thing among those permanently rising stars in the Republican party who just happen to announce their departures ahead of the expected train wreck of the midterm elections next month.

Paul Ryan, the outgoing House speaker, is leaving his awesome job because he honestly, truly wants to hang out with his own teenagers.[/blockquote]

d4m10n 11th October 2018 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat (Post 12459593)
Nikki Haley: the latest Trump enabler to ruin her shot at redemption

Haley 2024! :thumbsup:

...but seriously if the GOP ever decides to go back to doing traditional conservatism instead of playing the politics of Know NothingWP isolationism & white Christian grievance, I think she has a good shot at becoming the U.S. version of Margaret Thatcher.

CORed 11th October 2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12461240)
Haley 2024! :thumbsup:

...but seriously if the GOP ever decides to go back to doing traditional conservatism instead of playing the politics of Know NothingWP isolationism & white Christian grievance, I think she has a good shot at becoming the U.S. version of Margaret Thatcher.

I think she may be positioning herself for a run in 2020, should Trump for any reason not run (impeachment, resignation, death, illness). I think she'll be true to her word if Trump does run for re-election, but she's ready to try to salvage the mess that the GOP has become if he doesn't.

Segnosaur 11th October 2018 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CORed (Post 12461437)
I think she'll be true to her word if Trump does run for re-election, but she's ready to try to salvage the mess that the GOP has become if he doesn't.

How exactly do you mean 'salvage the mess the GOP has become'?

Do you mean lead them to election victory? That may be possible (although i have no idea of how good a campaigner she is).

Or do you mean "fix the underlying problems with the GOP, getting rid of the incompetence, extreme partisanship and evangelical/tea party influence"? If its the latter, what makes you think she'd have that ability? She seemed to be quite happy living in the swamp that is Trump's administration, and seems quite eager to support him. Looks like she's just as much of a scumbag as all the other republicans.

BrooklynBaby 11th October 2018 10:07 AM

I'm sure Rosenstein was just kidding around. It's silly to think that a guy as smart as he is was running around trying to round up cabinet members for a coup or putting together a conspiracy to secretly record Trump.

d4m10n 11th October 2018 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooklynBaby (Post 12461502)
I'm sure Rosenstein was just kidding around. It's silly to think that a guy as smart as he is was running around trying to round up cabinet members for a coup or putting together a conspiracy to secretly record Trump.

Can't tell if serious but . . .

https://twitter.com/nytmike/status/1...190067713?s=19

CORed 11th October 2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 12461457)
How exactly do you mean 'salvage the mess the GOP has become'?

Do you mean lead them to election victory? That may be possible (although i have no idea of how good a campaigner she is).

Or do you mean "fix the underlying problems with the GOP, getting rid of the incompetence, extreme partisanship and evangelical/tea party influence"? If its the latter, what makes you think she'd have that ability? She seemed to be quite happy living in the swamp that is Trump's administration, and seems quite eager to support him. Looks like she's just as much of a scumbag as all the other republicans.

You're probably right, but I wouldn't be surprised if she's considering running. Seriously, I'm not sure the Republican Party is fixable. I think it's in it will die (well it won't go away completely, but it will become irrelevant) and the Democrats will split. I'm not sure how long this will take. At this point, it probably depends on how long it takes Trump to crash and burn.

quadraginta 11th October 2018 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 12461457)
How exactly do you mean 'salvage the mess the GOP has become'?

Do you mean lead them to election victory? That may be possible (although i have no idea of how good a campaigner she is).

Or do you mean "fix the underlying problems with the GOP, getting rid of the incompetence, extreme partisanship and evangelical/tea party influence"? If its the latter, what makes you think she'd have that ability? She seemed to be quite happy living in the swamp that is Trump's administration, and seems quite eager to support him. Looks like she's just as much of a scumbag as all the other republicans.


I think the word you were looking for is "inclination"

But it wouldn't matter if she did. It's gonna take a lot more than any single Republican winning an election to turn the GOP from the course they have chosen for themselves.

Frankly, as a party I suspect they are beyond redemption. Their prime movers and shakers have sunk too far into the morass they have created.

a_unique_person 14th October 2018 05:42 PM

Matthis is "sort of a Democrat" according to Trump. Can't be long now.

Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk

Norman Alexander 14th October 2018 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12464818)
Matthis is "sort of a Democrat" according to Trump. Can't be long now.

Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk

Man, what an insult! :rolleyes:

Trebuchet 14th October 2018 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12464818)
Matthis is "sort of a Democrat" according to Trump. Can't be long now.

Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk

Linky. But read the whole stupid thread. What an idiot.

Norman Alexander 14th October 2018 07:15 PM

Pondering... If Mattis is "sort of" a Democrat, does that mean only partially? If so, what else is he? Sort of a gibbon?

Or does "sort of" mean some species of? Are there species of Democrats? Did I mention gibbons previously?

Inquiring minds want to know.


No, actually, they could not care less.

Stacko 14th October 2018 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12464843)
Linky. But read the whole stupid thread. What an idiot.

Finally, the Forgotten People of America have the president they've demanded for so long: a rich kid from Queens who thinks he knows more about war and peace than James Mattis.

That 60 minutes interview, great googly moogly. :eek:

Trebuchet 14th October 2018 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12464858)
Pondering... If Mattis is "sort of" a Democrat, does that mean only partially? If so, what else is he? Sort of a gibbon?

Or does "sort of" mean some species of? Are there species of Democrats? Did I mention gibbons previously?

Inquiring minds want to know.


No, actually, they could not care less.

Sort of a Democrat...does that mean he sort-of believes in Democracy? Unlike his boss? Of course, Republicans also think "progress" is a really bad thing.

Norman Alexander 14th October 2018 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12464915)
Sort of a Democrat...does that mean he sort-of believes in Democracy? Unlike his boss? Of course, Republicans also think "progress" is a really bad thing.

And being liberal, i.e. free.

Norman Alexander 14th October 2018 11:10 PM

Please! If there is a God of any shape or size, make the next resignation be that of the Marmalade Shartcannon in the White House. As if the USA hasn't suffered enough with multiple hurricanes recently, now there's this.

Minoosh 14th October 2018 11:39 PM

With Mattis and Kelly both gone from the White House I'd feel even more worried about Trump's presidency. These people keep him on the rails more or less (OK, less) and knowing there are competent people is reassuring. I would want Dems to grab some extra seats because Trump needs some check on his worst impulses. Even he might realize that. Also perhaps Ivanka. Hinting around about changes is not going to inspire greater confidence in his presidency. He's already driven off so many staffers I wonder if there is are any qualified replacements out there.

I don't know if that gets Dems any advantage leading up to the midterms. Trump could just be talking out of his rear end as is his wont.

Craig4 15th October 2018 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12464818)
Matthis is "sort of a Democrat" according to Trump. Can't be long now.

Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk

If anyone thinks they know what Secretary Mattis's politics are, I suspect they are wrong. He is somewhat famous for being apolitical

quadraginta 15th October 2018 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12465017)
If anyone thinks they know what Secretary Mattis's politics are, I suspect they are wrong. He is somewhat famous for being apolitical


A facade of being apolitical has not prevented some people from being fervent Trump supporters.

Norman Alexander 15th October 2018 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12465017)
If anyone thinks they know what Secretary Mattis's politics are, I suspect they are wrong. He is somewhat famous for being apolitical

...but very ambitious. Which may explain why he wants out. This is the Express Down elevator he is on.

AnonyMoose 15th October 2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12464915)
Sort of a Democrat...does that mean he sort-of believes in Democracy? Unlike his boss? Of course, Republicans also think "progress" is a really bad thing.


"Sort of a Democrat"

In Trumpinese, I translate that as:

He's not kissing my arse at every opportunity, therefore "sort of a democrat".

It's Trump's idea of tactfully insulting the general without coming right out and calling him an evil, heathenistic, violent-prone, tree-hugging libtard.

In Trumpland, disagreeing with das fuhrer (on anything) makes one a heretic to the motherland and everything she righteously stands for.... otherwise known as "a Democrat".

It's the new 'F' word in the USA.

Craig4 16th October 2018 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12466359)
...but very ambitious. Which may explain why he wants out. This is the Express Down elevator he is on.

Ambitious for what? the only two jobs he could have had that were moves up were Commandant of the Marine Corps or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and now he's been SECDEF. Absent a run for president there's nowhere left for him to go.

Craig4 16th October 2018 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12465162)
A facade of being apolitical has not prevented some people from being fervent Trump supporters.

If he was all that fervent, I suspect we'd hear from him more.

dudalb 22nd October 2018 12:28 PM

If Mattis goes, I predict war within a year.

Craig4 27th October 2018 03:19 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/22/polit...owski-faceoff/

Looks like the strain for working for Kelly is getting to someone. Someone clearly wants to show that the strain of working for Trump is getting to Kelly.

Darat 27th October 2018 03:47 AM

The only 100% safe position in the Whitehouse is the plasterer, they must be forever repairing dents in the walls.

Safe-Keeper 27th October 2018 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 12480994)
...they must be forever repairing dents in the walls.

Explains the massive paintings that keep going up.

d4m10n 27th October 2018 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 12480998)
Explains the massive paintings that keep going up.

https://twitter.com/business/status/1055575295170879488

PhantomWolf 31st October 2018 11:52 PM

One of the three investigations into Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has been referred to the DoJ by the The Office of Inspector General. Could be that we'll be soon seeing a Twitter about how nice a guy he is and how much good he did for the country from the dunce in chief.

d4m10n 7th November 2018 06:47 AM

Prediction: This topic is about to come roaring back.

d4m10n 7th November 2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12494236)
Prediction: This topic is about to come roaring back.

And boom, there it is.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...55869377766434

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1060260036616822784

bonzombiekitty 7th November 2018 12:57 PM

That didn't take long. I figured he would at least take a couple weeks.

d4m10n 7th November 2018 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bonzombiekitty (Post 12494746)
That didn't take long. I figured he would at least take a couple weeks.

Who had Jeff Sessions in the deadpool?

Galaxie 7th November 2018 01:24 PM

Rosenstein next?


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