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erlando 25th August 2020 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13201031)
I have to wonder if after todays PERFORMANCE!!! that Kimberly Guilfoyle will get her job. I don't even know what Conway's job was lately, but I can see Trump looking at KG and saying, "Hey, I like this gal!"

What the hell was THAT? A succubus? :boggled:

Orphia Nay 25th August 2020 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13201079)
Is she young enough?

Is she blonde enough?

Stacyhs 25th August 2020 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by erlando (Post 13201085)
What the hell was THAT? A succubus? :boggled:

No self-respecting succubus would go anywhere near Trump's bloated carcass.

d4m10n 26th August 2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay (Post 13200913)
List of Trump administration dismissals and resignations - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_resignations

:eye-poppi

kookbreaker 25th September 2020 06:10 PM

Judge rules that Trump's 'temporary' Bureau of Land Management chief, who has been in the position for over a year, has been blocked from that job.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/25/91711...EYaF6PbDFc6JHw

Now expect either a stalling appeal, another 'temporary' leader with similar scruples, or for the Trump administration to just ignore the ruling.

pgwenthold 26th September 2020 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 13237087)
Judge rules that Trump's 'temporary' Bureau of Land Management chief, who has been in the position for over a year, has been blocked from that job.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/25/91711...EYaF6PbDFc6JHw

Now expect either a stalling appeal, another 'temporary' leader with similar scruples, or for the Trump administration to just ignore the ruling.

I'm really confused. He was nominated for the post in June, his nomination was withdrawn in August, and he has never been confirmed by the Senate for any post at all (which has been Trump's usual way of sliding in an "interim" head without having to deal with messy stuff like Senate confirmation that the person is qualified)

In what way is the ruling "outrageous" as claimed by a "Department of the Interior spokesman"?

The Great Zaganza 26th September 2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13237530)
I'm really confused. He was nominated for the post in June, his nomination was withdrawn in August, and he has never been confirmed by the Senate for any post at all (which has been Trump's usual way of sliding in an "interim" head without having to deal with messy stuff like Senate confirmation that the person is qualified)

In what way is the ruling "outrageous" as claimed by a "Department of the Interior spokesman"?

When the Emperor is parading in his new clothes, it's outrageous to shout that he is naked.

Trebuchet 27th September 2020 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13237712)
When the Emperor is parading in his new clothes, it's outrageous to shout that he is naked.

Would that be the guy responsible for raking th federal forests?

Norman Alexander 27th September 2020 11:27 PM

I suspect one of the first items on the order of business for the new Congress will be to pass laws that restrict "interim" and "acting" position holders to a very short period, like 90 days. And that the position must be filled within that 90 day period, and Senate committee approval must be provided to fill the position. Should that not happen, the position will become vacant until the requirements ARE met, and no further legislation affecting that department, nor management structural changes, nor changes in business practices, can come into effect in the meantime. The incentive will be to fill the position with a cross-party suitable candidate, or the department stalls.

The Don 27th September 2020 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13239081)
I suspect one of the first items on the order of business for the new Congress will be to pass laws that restrict "interim" and "acting" position holders to a very short period, like 90 days. And that the position must be filled within that 90 day period, and Senate committee approval must be provided to fill the position. Should that not happen, the position will become vacant until the requirements ARE met, and no further legislation affecting that department, nor management structural changes, nor changes in business practices, can come into effect in the meantime. The incentive will be to fill the position with a cross-party suitable candidate, or the department stalls.

For Republicans, that in itself may be a desired outcome for some departments. :(

Tolls 28th September 2020 03:16 AM

Yeah.
They'd have a field day essentially shutting down whole swathes of government by simply doing **** all whenever they had control of the Senate.

Trebuchet 28th September 2020 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13239081)
I suspect one of the first items on the order of business for the new Congress will be to pass laws that restrict "interim" and "acting" position holders to a very short period, like 90 days. And that the position must be filled within that 90 day period, and Senate committee approval must be provided to fill the position. Should that not happen, the position will become vacant until the requirements ARE met, and no further legislation affecting that department, nor management structural changes, nor changes in business practices, can come into effect in the meantime. The incentive will be to fill the position with a cross-party suitable candidate, or the department stalls.

But if the Republicans hold the Senate, Mitch is going to refuse to confirm ANY Biden nomination, for any position whatever. Acting appointments may be Biden's only option.

JoeMorgue 28th September 2020 09:11 AM

Sooner or later we have to accept that Checks and Balances as they are currently set up have turned into codified Obstructionism because of tribal partisanism.

The idea the President nominates a SCOTUS Justice while the Senate approves it was based on the idea that there weren't going to be scenarios where the President couldn't nominate anyone that would make the Senate happy.

The check and balance was on the "Okay you might not get your ideal choice and you might have to compromise to a choice that's more acceptable to everyone" level and it's not at that level anymore.

d4m10n 6th October 2020 06:04 PM

Came across this article from the NYT today, entitled "Tracking the White House Coronavirus."

Looking like the thread title may become unpleasantly literal in the relatively near term.

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acbytesla 6th October 2020 06:14 PM

Latest developments with COVID at the White House has given this thread an entirely different meaning.

Ninja'd by d4m10n in seconds!

Crossbow 8th October 2020 05:39 PM

Earlier today Trump gave one his long-winded telephone interviews where he was bitching about the following three people:

Attorney General Barr: for not arresting more Democrats.

Secretary of State Pompeo: for not finding the Clinton e-mails when she was Secretary of State.

FBI Diector Wray: for not establishing widespread voter fraud.

Therefore, we may see a big wave of high-level job evictions before too long.

Norman Alexander 8th October 2020 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13239533)
But if the Republicans hold the Senate, Mitch is going to refuse to confirm ANY Biden nomination, for any position whatever. Acting appointments may be Biden's only option.

I would add the provision that if the Senate fails to proceed with this and complete their decision within a set period of time, they don't get paid until they do.

Segnosaur 8th October 2020 09:56 PM

Not exactly part of the white house, but still Trump-adjacent, so sort of relevant...

From: CNBC
Elliott Broidy, a former top fundraiser for President Donald Trump and the Republican Party, was charged Thursday by federal authorities with violating a foreign lobbying law.... Prosecutors accused the venture capitalist Broidy of violating that law as part of a scheme to get the Justice Department to drop a major investigation into a foreign national widely believed to be fugitive Malaysian financier Jho Low

Apparently not his first criminal act (Was convicted of bribery around a decade ago), so I guess it made perfect sense for Trump to have him work on his campaign.

Craig4 10th October 2020 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 13252154)
Earlier today Trump gave one his long-winded telephone interviews where he was bitching about the following three people:

Attorney General Barr: for not arresting more Democrats.

Secretary of State Pompeo: for not finding the Clinton e-mails when she was Secretary of State.

FBI Diector Wray: for not establishing widespread voter fraud.

Therefore, we may see a big wave of high-level job evictions before too long.

Wray may fall on his sword and refuse to obey unlawful orders from Barr and or Trump. We might have a Wednesday afternoon Massacre on November 4th at the FBI headquarters.

Stacyhs 10th October 2020 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 13252154)
Earlier today Trump gave one his long-winded telephone interviews where he was bitching about the following three people:

Attorney General Barr: for not arresting more Democrats.

Secretary of State Pompeo: for not finding the Clinton e-mails when she was Secretary of State.

FBI Diector Wray: for not establishing widespread voter fraud.

Therefore, we may see a big wave of high-level job evictions before too long.

Yeah. Biden's going to be clearing a lot of jobs! :D

Firestone 10th October 2020 12:52 PM

Wrong thread

dudalb 10th October 2020 04:04 PM

The last couple of weeks have given the term "Survivor" in this thread an all new meaning...

Mader Levap 11th October 2020 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13253948)
The last couple of weeks have given the term "Survivor" in this thread an all new meaning...

Very literal meaning.

Crossbow 2nd November 2020 09:47 AM

True to Trump form and function, Trump is now talking about firing Fauci.

https://news.yahoo.com/appreciate-ad...4n7KuA7EjsYwmB

'I appreciate the advice': After crowd chants 'Fire Fauci!' Trump says to wait until after the election

...

"Fire Fauci!" the crowd then began to chant.

Trump paused briefly to listen to the refrain before telling his supporters, "Don't tell anybody, but let me wait 'til a little bit after the election, please."

"I appreciate the advice. I appreciate the advice," Trump continued. "No, he's been wrong though a lot. He's a nice man though. He's been wrong on a lot."

...

Darat 2nd November 2020 09:56 AM

Yeah he's been wrong a lot, he thought Trump would take effective action.

Craig4 2nd November 2020 11:56 AM

Does it count for the purposes of White House Survivor if there's no break in service? If Trump fires Fauci on Wednesday and Biden hires him for the transition team on Thursday, did he really get fired?

Crossbow 2nd November 2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13278234)
Does it count for the purposes of White House Survivor if there's no break in service? If Trump fires Fauci on Wednesday and Biden hires him for the transition team on Thursday, did he really get fired?

I would say "Yes. That still counts as Fauci being fired."

Because a sitting President dismissed him from one job while a President-Elect hired him for a different job.

Craig4 2nd November 2020 12:17 PM

Trump will try to hire Atlas into the job as the director for NIAID.

alfaniner 2nd November 2020 12:43 PM

I heard that The PDJT can't actually fire Dr. Fauci -- that has to come from another boss. Of course, Trump would never do it face-to-face himself anyway.

JoeMorgue 2nd November 2020 12:44 PM

Well that settles it. It's not like Trump has never done anything he's not allowed to do.

Craig4 2nd November 2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13278313)
I heard that The PDJT can't actually fire Dr. Fauci -- that has to come from another boss. Of course, Trump would never do it face-to-face himself anyway.

I'm sure Fauci is on the Senior Executive Schedule. They don't serve at the pleasure of the president but don't have all the rights of the General Schedule employees (GS 15 and below). When I was in government I never made it that far, nor did I aspire to so I never really looked into the differences.

Segnosaur 2nd November 2020 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13278234)
Does it count for the purposes of White House Survivor if there's no break in service? If Trump fires Fauci on Wednesday and Biden hires him for the transition team on Thursday, did he really get fired?

The problem is, even if he loses, Trump will remain in office until the new year. This will give him roughly 2 months where he can fire individuals (including Fauci). Even if Biden hires him back, that's still several months where he is out of work (and could possibly find alternate employment.)

dirtywick 2nd November 2020 06:50 PM

Well it’s not like they’re following his advice anyway.

I’m sure Biden could give him a call and ask him to stand back and stand by

alfaniner 9th November 2020 10:53 AM

Defense Secretary Esper fired, by Twitter. The PDJT now has an Acting Secretary of Defense -- two months before he is out of office. I guess that answers my question in another thread if he could still appoint Acting admins.

Well, I'm sure he was so pissed off he felt like he had to fire someone.

SuburbanTurkey 9th November 2020 10:54 AM

As we are approaching the final days of the Trump administration, an opportunity presents itself for prognostication.

Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date.

varwoche 9th November 2020 11:27 AM

Overcome with holiday spirit, Festivus begins early.

Norman Alexander 9th November 2020 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13287956)
As we are approaching the final days of the Trump administration, an opportunity presents itself for prognostication.

Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date.

I would not be the least bit surprised if he fired everyone. Date: 19-Jan.

d4m10n 9th November 2020 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13287956)
Who do you think will be the last person fired by Trump before they all leave office? Bonus points for calling date.

Please, oh Lord of Providential Coincidence, let it be Jared.

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alfaniner 9th November 2020 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13288040)
I would not be the least bit surprised if he fired everyone. Date: 19-Jan.

He'll be sitting on his throne in the Oval Office, with no one else in the entire building, shouting to the walls -- "I'm the King of the World!!!"

Meadmaker 9th November 2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13287953)
Defense Secretary Esper fired, by Twitter. The PDJT now has an Acting Secretary of Defense -- two months before he is out of office. I guess that answers my question in another thread if he could still appoint Acting admins.

Well, I'm sure he was so pissed off he felt like he had to fire someone.

Has he ordered the execution of Fegelein yet?

(Movie "Downfall" reference, but not part of the usually parodied rant sequence.)

dudalb 9th November 2020 02:56 PM

I am betting Fauci is next.
I also bet within ten minutes of Fauci being fired, he gets a phone call from Biden, basically offereing him choice of Health related jobs in a Biden Adminstration.

Trebuchet 9th November 2020 04:16 PM

There seem to be indications that Esper was going to resign today. Trump couldn't tolerate that so preemptively fired him.

Rather than guess who will be the last fired, perhaps we should have a poll as to how many. I'm guessing about 100. After all, the only rational reason for the E.O. about senior civil servants is to allow him to fire them.

alfaniner 9th November 2020 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13288461)
There seem to be indications that Esper was going to resign today. Trump couldn't tolerate that so preemptively fired him.

Rather than guess who will be the last fired, perhaps we should have a poll as to how many. I'm guessing about 100. After all, the only rational reason for the E.O. about senior civil servants is to allow him to fire them.

The Tweet is mightier than the pen.

Stacyhs 9th November 2020 05:23 PM

Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing on Trump's Lame Duck period.

Stacyhs 9th November 2020 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13288506)
The Tweet is mightier than the pen.

Looks like Tweetie Bird has struck again.

Trebuchet 9th November 2020 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13288584)
Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing of Trump's Lame Duck period.

Aside from heads remaining attached, of course.

Meadmaker 9th November 2020 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13288584)
Looks like Gina Haspel, the CIA Director, may be next. FBI Director Wray is also rumored to be on the chopping block. The Reign of Terror may have nothing of Trump's Lame Duck period.

What a guy. I wonder if this is the pension thing. I don't remember who it was, maybe Comey? Rosenberg? someone, that he fired deliberately a couple of days before he would have qualified to receive a pension benefit of some sort. Trump fired him just so he could take that away.

What a putz.

Stacyhs 9th November 2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13288591)
Aside from heads remaining attached, of course.

Mere details, my boy, mere details.

Jim_MDP 9th November 2020 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13288316)
I am betting Fauci is next.
I also bet within ten minutes of Fauci being fired, he gets a phone call from Biden, basically offereing him choice of Health related jobs in a Biden Adminstration.

I expect that phone call, and ones to any others worth retaining, happened late last week.

surrogate 9th November 2020 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meadmaker (Post 13288599)
What a guy. I wonder if this is the pension thing. I don't remember who it was, maybe Comey? Rosenberg? someone, that he fired deliberately a couple of days before he would have qualified to receive a pension benefit of some sort. Trump fired him just so he could take that away.

What a putz.

I believe it was Andrew McCabe


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