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jimbob 25th June 2021 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13519354)
Somehow the Sun has obtained the full video of Hancock's 'liaison'.

Which raises questions of itself.

Yes there is a genuine public interest, but the CCTV was apparently in his office.

There have to be security issues raised by that

Agatha 25th June 2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13519354)
Somehow the Sun has obtained the full video of Hancock's 'liaison'.

The world has not yet produced sufficient brain bleach for anyone to view this.

P.J. Denyer 25th June 2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13519366)
Which raises questions of itself.

Yes there is a genuine public interest, but the CCTV was apparently in his office.

There have to be security issues raised by that

It's reached the point they have to get the dead cats from Longleat.

Matthew Best 25th June 2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Agatha (Post 13519372)
The world has not yet produced sufficient brain bleach for anyone to view this.

I've seen it - he appears to be whispering into her mouth for some reason.

P.J. Denyer 25th June 2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Agatha (Post 13519372)
The world has not yet produced sufficient brain bleach for anyone to view this.

I'd sooner watch the video from The Ring.

Vixen 25th June 2021 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Agatha (Post 13519007)
I think he will find that voters may not consider the matter closed - and I don't expect we'll be seeing Hancock given an opportunity to sit in the rose garden to explain how he interpreted "hands face space" as "hands face arse".

At least now we know what he meant when he said he was 'straining every sinew'.

Vixen 25th June 2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13518990)
The prime minister's spokesman says Boris Johnson has accepted Mr Hancock's apology and considers matter closed

I always thought Boris Johnson had a strong anti-social streak in him.

It might be the key to the his popularity as he reflects back the Brit-trait of two fingers in the air. Yah boo shucks to you!

Vixen 25th June 2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Best (Post 13519423)
I've seen it - he appears to be whispering into her mouth for some reason.

I wonder if it gets any ruder and there is more to come. They start stripping or something.

Captain_Swoop 26th June 2021 03:35 AM

SEVEN current UK Cabinet ministers (including Hancock) have been found to have broken the law & each & everyone of them have remained in post.

Darat 26th June 2021 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13519652)
SEVEN current UK Cabinet ministers (including Hancock) have been found to have broken the law & each & everyone of them have remained in post.

I'm shocked.

So few!

Ulf Nereng 26th June 2021 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13519652)
SEVEN current UK Cabinet ministers (including Hancock) have been found to have broken the law & each & everyone of them have remained in post.

People voted for change and now the country is run by criminals. Does it count as change or has it always been thus?

Darat 26th June 2021 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulf Nereng (Post 13519664)
People voted for change and now the country is run by criminals. Does it count as change or has it always been thus?

Sadly, for most of the time we are indeed governed by the same class and as ever high and low society always had a very nasty intersection.

At the moment the best one can say is none of the current cabinet members have (yet...) been convicted of crimes and imprisoned so we are doing better than the Thatcher and Major years!

Archie Gemmill Goal 26th June 2021 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Agatha (Post 13519007)
I think he will find that voters may not consider the matter closed - and I don't expect we'll be seeing Hancock given an opportunity to sit in the rose garden to explain how he interpreted "hands face space" as "hands face arse".

I think he will then find that as with everything 'voters don't consider closed' it will be forgotten about as soon as something else comes along and completely irrelevant come election time when the Tories win again.

Apparently the people of England like being treated like this and want more of it.

Vixen 26th June 2021 05:05 AM

No sex, please, we are British.

Darat 26th June 2021 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal (Post 13519696)
I think he will then find that as with everything 'voters don't consider closed' it will be forgotten about as soon as something else comes along and completely irrelevant come election time when the Tories win again.

But Labour have some anti-Semites! But labour cut funding to the NHS for the last 12 years! Vaccination!!!!

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Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal (Post 13519696)
Apparently the people of England like being treated like this and want more of it.

Yes and by George we want to feel that whip some more!!

angrysoba 26th June 2021 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Agatha (Post 13519372)
The world has not yet produced sufficient brain bleach for anyone to view this.

There is now an audio version as well.

Proceed with extreme caution:

Link

angrysoba 26th June 2021 07:48 AM

Okay, so She is from Oxford, married to some guy who might be able to get some government interest in his projects. wild speculation ahead...

She gets a job, her husband gets some cash, all they have to do is pretend she is attracted to Matt Hancock. Hancock is too stupid to realize that he is being used.

Wild speculation ceases here.

Filippo Lippi 26th June 2021 08:04 AM

"Lovers" implies she did a bit more than "pretend" to be attracted to Hancock

Garrison 26th June 2021 09:04 AM

This is Boris Johnson we are talking about, he probably doesn't think adultery is really a problem. After all he's done it multiple times and he made it to PM!

Mid 26th June 2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by angrysoba (Post 13519788)
Okay, so She is from Oxford, married to some guy who might be able to get some government interest in his projects. wild speculation ahead...

She gets a job, her husband gets some cash, all they have to do is pretend she is attracted to Matt Hancock. Hancock is too stupid to realize that he is being used.

Wild speculation ceases here.

Well not the husband but her brother has NHS contracts:

https://news.sky.com/story/matt-hanc...racts-12341789

P.J. Denyer 26th June 2021 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Filippo Lippi (Post 13519800)
"Lovers" implies she did a bit more than "pretend" to be attracted to Hancock


No, it could just be that she played the part with real commitment (an early episode of Miami Vice springs to mind)

Pixel42 26th June 2021 10:33 AM

Hancock has resigned.

Darat 26th June 2021 10:44 AM

My god what else did the paper have on him!?!?

Lothian 26th June 2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13519652)
SEVEN current UK Cabinet ministers (including Hancock) have been found to have broken the law & each & everyone of them have remained in post.

Which 7?

Lothian 26th June 2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pixel42 (Post 13519873)
Hancock has resigned.

Has he left to spend more time with someone else's family?

Captain_Swoop 26th June 2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lothian (Post 13519886)
Which 7?

I read it on one of the news sites but it was a 'live news' feed and it has gone off the bottom now.
Three of them were Gavin Williamson, Matt Hancock and Michael Gove, they have been ruled by the High Court as breaking the law during the pandemic response.

P.J. Denyer 26th June 2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13519877)
My god what else did the paper have on him!?!?

Speculation: A lot of people owe him for the over priced contracts he put their way. He may think resigning makes any scrutiny go away so he can sit back and let payback roll in.

Captain_Swoop 26th June 2021 12:42 PM

Sunday times

Matt Hancock faces an investigation after using a personal email account instead of an official address during the pandemic in a breach of government guidelines

Probably the straw that was going to break his back.

Captain_Swoop 26th June 2021 12:44 PM

Confirmed - Sajid Javid is the new Health Secretary

According to an unconfirmed report ;)

Mojo 26th June 2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13519912)
I read it on one of the news sites but it was a 'live news' feed and it has gone off the bottom now.
Three of them were Gavin Williamson, Matt Hancock and Michael Gove, they have been ruled by the High Court as breaking the law during the pandemic response.


I think that those were all judicial review cases. The executive being held to account by the courts in this way is really just part of the usual process of government, even if this particular government regards it as unacceptable judicial meddling. I’m not sure if a minister has ever had to resign because of losing a judicial review.

Captain_Swoop 26th June 2021 12:55 PM

For Boris to back Hancock, announcing that he “considered the matter closed” a day before the pressure caused Hancock to jump shows Boris to be weak, of poor judgement & out-of-touch.

TheSupermeerkat 26th June 2021 01:43 PM

Jonathan Pie skewers Matt Hancock:

"**** you, you nasty, snivelling, useless, lying little ****. Your mistakes have cost lives and now your marriage, and your apologies are meaningless."

https://youtu.be/NsyQ2Q3QMAw

angrysoba 26th June 2021 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13519951)
For Boris to back Hancock, announcing that he “considered the matter closed” a day before the pressure caused Hancock to jump shows Boris to be weak, of poor judgement & out-of-touch.

Things are slowly starting to suggest that…

Captain_Swoop 26th June 2021 03:13 PM

Apparently Matt Hancock has left his wife and three children now.

All I can see is Alan Partridge in the Travel Tavern.

Captain_Swoop 26th June 2021 03:32 PM

It's obvious. Covid was a dead cat to distract from Hancock's affair.

jimbob 26th June 2021 04:09 PM

How long was Johnson sitting on the knowledge?

If he didn't know at the time - that raises questions why the PM was unaware of compromising film footage of a Cabinet minister. If he did know - that raises questions over his judgement.

Vixen 26th June 2021 04:22 PM

Matt Hancock and Gina Coladangelo are probably holed up in a Travel Lodge right now. Within a fortnight, they will discover they are now utterly bored with each other, now that the thrill of a secret affair is no longer there, with grapplings across the photocopier, steamy glances over the boardroom table and canoodling at the office door; and everybody knows about it, so is no longer thrilling. She will return to Oliver and he will seeing the kids at weekends with Martha making it as difficult as possible. What a swine, leaving that gorgeous dachsy.

The Don 27th June 2021 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13519680)
Sadly, for most of the time we are indeed governed by the same class and as ever high and low society always had a very nasty intersection.

At the moment the best one can say is none of the current cabinet members have (yet...) been convicted of crimes and imprisoned so we are doing better than the Thatcher and Major years!

I guess the question is whether the current crop are less law-breaky or whether there simply is no desire to prosecute. I fear it's the latter. :(

Darat 27th June 2021 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13520107)
How long was Johnson sitting on the knowledge?

If he didn't know at the time - that raises questions why the PM was unaware of compromising film footage of a Cabinet minister. If he did know - that raises questions over his judgement.

His what?

Captain_Swoop 27th June 2021 02:52 AM

The department of health is to look into how footage from Matt Hancock's office was leaked, Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis has said.

Asked about the leak on the BBC's Andrew Marr programme, Mr Lewis said: "The Department of Health will be investigating quite rightly to understand how this was able to happened."
"We have got to to concerned about the fact that someone was able to secure a recording from inside a government building," he added.
Replying to a question about the possibility of a general review into security cameras across government buildings, Mr Lewis said he was "sure that is something the team will be looking at".
"I take the view that everything you are saying or putting in writing will be reported somewhere."

Speaking on the same programme, Jeremy Hunt - Mr Hancock's predecessor as health secretary and now chairman of the Health and Social Care Select Committee - said there "absolutely" needed to be a review of security across Whitehall.
"It is completely unacceptable from a security point of view that minsters are big filmed from inside their own offices without their knowledge."
Asked if the leak was a breach of the Official Secrets Act and whether the police should be involved, Mr Hunt said "possibly" but added that whistleblowers should be protected.

Speaking to Sky News, former Labour cabinet minister Alan Johnson said: "I could never understand why there was a camera in the secretary of state's office.
"There was never a camera in my office when I was health secretary or in any of the other five cabinet positions."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57628523


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