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dudalb 30th March 2021 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13433518)
Trump set the entertainment attention bar rather high, fast and furious for his base nut jobs. It's like a drug: they've become used to it and it's going to take more and more to keep them satisfied. I'm not sure amateurs like MTG are up to it. She going to burn out.

Her problem is she is pretty much a one trick pony and the trick has already gotten old.
First time you do something outrageous it has shock value but by the fourth or fifth time it has become boring.

Norman Alexander 30th March 2021 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13440329)
Her problem is she is pretty much a one trick pony and the trick has already gotten old.
First time you do something outrageous it has shock value but by the fourth or fifth time it has become boring.

So are you saying she would never make a good hooker?

Elagabalus 1st April 2021 11:06 PM

MTG ponies up!

Rep. MTG introduces ‘Fire Fauci’ Act & ‘We Do Not Comply’ Bill.

https://www.oann.com/rep-mtg-introdu...t-comply-bill/

Hah!!

Norman Alexander 1st April 2021 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Elagabalus (Post 13442765)
MTG ponies up!

Rep. MTG introduces ‘Fire Fauci’ Act & ‘We Do Not Comply’ Bill.

https://www.oann.com/rep-mtg-introdu...t-comply-bill/

Hah!!

OAN is definitely my first source for in-depth analysis on new US legislation. :rolleyes:

And then this:
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On Wednesday, Greene put forward the ‘Fire Fauci’ Act on Twitter, which aims to eliminate his $434,000 salary.
...does she actually know how the bill process actually works in her country??!

DevilsAdvocate 1st April 2021 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Elagabalus (Post 13442765)
MTG ponies up!

Rep. MTG introduces ‘Fire Fauci’ Act & ‘We Do Not Comply’ Bill.

https://www.oann.com/rep-mtg-introdu...t-comply-bill/

Hah!!

The limp, sagging, fruitless, failing pair of bills that Marjorie wants to get off her chest should be of no concern or consequence to anyone.

(Full disclosure: If she were a man, I would have done dick jokes.)

kookbreaker 2nd April 2021 03:45 AM

Greene also posted a video of some CrossFit workout (with some terrible form according to many fitness people) and declared this was her COVID prevention.

Because, y’know, no athlete has caught COVID to date, all those NFL & NHL players must have just been slacking off

https://worldnewsera.com/news/politi...id-protection/

Regnad Kcin 2nd April 2021 08:14 AM

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What is it with these people and infectious disease? I thought over the last hundred years or so medical science had pretty much established how they are transmitted. Greene recommends lifting weights and doing pull ups as protection (instead of face masks and vaccines)?

Unbelievable.

carlitos 2nd April 2021 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 13442829)
Greene also posted a video of some CrossFit workout (with some terrible form according to many fitness people) and declared this was her COVID prevention.

She was competitive and highly ranked in CrossFit some years ago, so she would be doing these stupid "kipping" pull-ups from experience. Just another example of why the CrossFit cult is stupid and can cause lots of injuries - you look at a pull-up as being wrong, but they do it that way intentionally. Because it's a cult.

bruto 2nd April 2021 09:09 AM

I saw somewhere mention that Greene is calling vaccination confirmation "Biden's mark of the beast." Class and poetry combine.

JoeMorgue 2nd April 2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bruto (Post 13443050)
I saw somewhere mention that Greene is calling vaccination confirmation "Biden's mark of the beast." Class and poetry combine.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...250316644.html

Resume 2nd April 2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bruto (Post 13443050)
I saw somewhere mention that Greene is calling vaccination confirmation "Biden's mark of the beast." Class and poetry combine.

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13443058)

I saw this the other day. I keep reminding myself that it's 2021, but it won't take.

tyr_13 2nd April 2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13443058)

The mark of the beast is part of a failed prediction of the apocalypse that was supposed to take place 2000 years ago, but it also was supposed to appear on the hand or the forehead.

You know, where those stupid red hats go.

gnome 2nd April 2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bruto (Post 13443050)
I saw somewhere mention that Greene is calling vaccination confirmation "Biden's mark of the beast." Class and poetry combine.

Actually my favorite part is the "fascism or communism or whatever" and "I call it Corporate Communism"

You can call something a "square triangle" if you want, doesn't actually mean anything though.

Stacyhs 2nd April 2021 09:54 AM

Has anyone asked MTG's parents if she was dropped on her head as a baby? Or was kicked in the head by a horse? Or played football without a helmet? Or hit herself in the head with a hammer repeatedly? It would explain a lot.

JoeMorgue 2nd April 2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13443087)
Has anyone asked MTG's parents if she was dropped on her head as a baby? Or was kicked in the head by a horse?

And I'm not talking once but over and over... like for a whole day?

carlitos 2nd April 2021 10:06 AM

The Mark of the Beast is those UPC bar codes you find on consumer products.

Also - best response to her video on Twitter -
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Hey, do you Crossfit? So weird because usually people who do don’t talk about it.

dudalb 2nd April 2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 13442829)
Greene also posted a video of some CrossFit workout (with some terrible form according to many fitness people) and declared this was her COVID prevention.

Because, y’know, no athlete has caught COVID to date, all those NFL & NHL players must have just been slacking off

https://worldnewsera.com/news/politi...id-protection/

The women's ignorance is simply incredible.

JoeMorgue 2nd April 2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 13442829)
Greene also posted a video of some CrossFit workout (with some terrible form according to many fitness people) and declared this was her COVID prevention.

Because, y’know, no athlete has caught COVID to date, all those NFL & NHL players must have just been slacking off

https://worldnewsera.com/news/politi...id-protection/

Noted slacker and obvious total weakling Drew McIntyre, shown here after winning the WWE Championship by not being as fit as Majorie Tylor Green, which is obviously why he caught COVID.


Minoosh 2nd April 2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 13443093)
The Mark of the Beast is those UPC bar codes you find on consumer products.

Also - best response to her video on Twitter -

If MTG is trolling I'm interested in the psychological tricks to troll the trolls. But I usually hesitate to label someone a troll. I can't always tell who's trolling and who's not.

If someone really can't see the fallacies in their thinking that's a pity, but some people IMO use fallacies as a distraction, knowing some people will be determined to educate them about various fallacies and errors of fact. But if the errors and fallacies are deliberate, reason probably isn't going to help because the lies and fallacies are a well-calculated attempts to provoke a reaction.

MTG probably knows elected officials don't need to swear on a bible, but it won't help to point out she's wrong. Her remarks serve a dual purpose: to get the lie widely accepted by her fans, and to get a rise out of people who value facts and sound reasoning. So just say something peripheral like, "Omg, I sure needed to hear this. Does it have to be the KGV? I need to know because I'm buying Bibles for a courthouse."

(I wrote this because I think the remark about CrossFit is hilarious. Take what she says and run with it - but obliquely, in a direction she didn't plan on going).

jimbob 2nd April 2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13443087)
Has anyone asked MTG's parents if she was dropped on her head as a baby? Or was kicked in the head by a horse? Or played football without a helmet? Or hit herself in the head with a hammer repeatedly? It would explain a lot.



For some reason, your post reminded me of this call to a UK talk show


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I AGREE

pgwenthold 2nd April 2021 05:58 PM

You all have to cut Marj some slack.

It's not like she has anything else to do. Like committee work or anything.

So she has to invent things to work on by herself.

Stacyhs 2nd April 2021 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13443452)
You all have to cut Marj some slack.

It's not like she has anything else to do. Like committee work or anything.

So she has to invent things to work on by herself.

She could check herself into a mental health in-patient facility and get some help. Maybe shock therapy would help. Maybe not. But it couldn't hurt. And I'd pay to watch.

Skeptic Ginger 2nd April 2021 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13443267)
For some reason, your post reminded me of this call to a UK talk show

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE

:dl:

smartcooky 2nd April 2021 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 13443162)
If MTG is trolling I'm interested in the psychological tricks to troll the trolls. But I usually hesitate to label someone a troll. I can't always tell who's trolling and who's not.

If someone really can't see the fallacies in their thinking that's a pity, but some people IMO use fallacies as a distraction, knowing some people will be determined to educate them about various fallacies and errors of fact. But if the errors and fallacies are deliberate, reason probably isn't going to help because the lies and fallacies are a well-calculated attempts to provoke a reaction.

MTG probably knows elected officials don't need to swear on a bible, but it won't help to point out she's wrong. Her remarks serve a dual purpose: to get the lie widely accepted by her fans, and to get a rise out of people who value facts and sound reasoning. So just say something peripheral like, "Omg, I sure needed to hear this. Does it have to be the KGV? I need to know because I'm buying Bibles for a courthouse."

(I wrote this because I think the remark about CrossFit is hilarious. Take what she says and run with it - but obliquely, in a direction she didn't plan on going).

IMO, Taylor-Greene one of three things

1. A racist, anti-Semitic, Q-nut, conspiracy theorist.

2. A complete, buffoon, way over at the far-red end of the Spectrum of Stupid.

3. Both 1 and 2 above.

My pick is number 3

Minoosh 2nd April 2021 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by newyorkguy (Post 13431987)
Viewed in this sense, what Greene is doing has a certain twisted logic. It's not about serving her district and their needs in Congress. It's about creating a brand for herself that she will be able to cash in on for a long time.

That's what it's always been about. I don't think most are necessarily driven by literal cash (though who knows), but they want to build their political capital. It's just easier to get famous these days.

I think when people delete tweets or IG posts they're showing an IMO suspicious compulsion to manipulate their public images. Which they absolutely have a right to do; I just think it smacks of a lack of integrity.

We haven't seen the end of the pitfalls of social media ;) ! With luck it will eventually trigger some degree of skepticism of the images people are trying to build.

Minoosh 2nd April 2021 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13443499)
IMO, Taylor-Greene one of three things

1. A racist, anti-Semitic, Q-nut, conspiracy theorist.

2. A complete, buffoon, way over at the far-red end of the Spectrum of Stupid.

3. Both 1 and 2 above.

My pick is number 3

Which is what she wants, so, effective messaging.

For now.

I just want to see these vipers turn on each other.

Minoosh 2nd April 2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13443463)
She could check herself into a mental health in-patient facility and get some help. Maybe shock therapy would help. Maybe not. But it couldn't hurt. And I'd pay to watch.

Maybe she's bipolar or something. The problem is, if she has a psychotic break, how would anyone know? I wonder that about a lot of these schmoes.

RecoveringYuppy 2nd April 2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13443463)
She could check herself into a mental health in-patient facility and get some help. Maybe shock therapy would help. Maybe not. But it couldn't hurt. And I'd pay to watch.

Then what's the point?

dudalb 2nd April 2021 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13443463)
She could check herself into a mental health in-patient facility and get some help. Maybe shock therapy would help. Maybe not. But it couldn't hurt. And I'd pay to watch.

Sadly, stupidity and ignorance are not treatable treatable mental illnesses..

ponderingturtle 7th April 2021 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13442768)
OAN is definitely my first source for in-depth analysis on new US legislation. :rolleyes:

And then this:

...does she actually know how the bill process actually works in her country??!

Or what are legal congressional acts by the supreme court?

See United States v. Lovett where exactly that you can't be paid a salary law was ruled unconstitutional.

SuburbanTurkey 7th April 2021 05:45 AM

I like pointing and laughing at this clown as much as the next person, but I think these characterizations of her being an idiot or insane really miss the mark.

It doesn't matter that her proposed bills are nonsense and have no chance of passing. It doesn't matter that her impeachment bill for Biden was a dead end.

These are political stunts intended for her base, and her base doesn't really care about effectiveness, they care about belligerence. If anything, MTG is cementing her popularity with the reactionary voters that are increasingly the base of the conservative movement in this country.

pgwenthold 7th April 2021 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13446985)
her base doesn't really care about effectiveness,

I don't think this is necessarily true. For example, I don't think there is any way in hell she would survive a primary challenge. It would be really easy for a challenger to use the "we may agree with her positions, but clearly she is toxic. You need someone in congress who can actually represent your interests, not someone who gets ignored. Elect me and I will not only represent you, but I will maintain the ability to actually get something done."

ponderingturtle 7th April 2021 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13446998)
I don't think this is necessarily true. For example, I don't think there is any way in hell she would survive a primary challenge. It would be really easy for a challenger to use the "we may agree with her positions, but clearly she is toxic. You need someone in congress who can actually represent your interests, not someone who gets ignored. Elect me and I will not only represent you, but I will maintain the ability to actually get something done."

She wasn't voted on to be effective, she was elected to troll the libs. No one else could do that job as well. She is a lock, because she is the most in touch with the republican base.

SuburbanTurkey 7th April 2021 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13446998)
I don't think this is necessarily true. For example, I don't think there is any way in hell she would survive a primary challenge. It would be really easy for a challenger to use the "we may agree with her positions, but clearly she is toxic. You need someone in congress who can actually represent your interests, not someone who gets ignored. Elect me and I will not only represent you, but I will maintain the ability to actually get something done."

I think you're giving the primary voters far too much credit. They live in an alternate reality.

3/4 of self identified Republicans believe there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election. These people are not reasonable, and they don't want reasonable representatives. They want peacocking idiots like Trump and MTG and Boebert and so on. They reactionary freaks stoking the fires of the culture war.

Belz... 7th April 2021 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gnome (Post 13443076)
Actually my favorite part is the "fascism or communism or whatever" and "I call it Corporate Communism"

You can call something a "square triangle" if you want, doesn't actually mean anything though.

How does the GOP square this with their usual stance on corporations? That's so weird.

JoeMorgue 7th April 2021 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Belz... (Post 13447019)
How does the GOP square this with their usual stance on corporations? That's so weird.

It doesn't. It squares perfectly with their usual stance on "Hypocrisy is awesome because you get your way all the time."

SuburbanTurkey 7th April 2021 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Belz... (Post 13447019)
How does the GOP square this with their usual stance on corporations? That's so weird.

The Republicans are all about culture war now. You get strange things like Marco Rubio giving tentative support to the workers trying to unionize the Bessemer, Alabama Amazon warehouse, not because Rubio is pro-union, but because he thinks sticking it to Amazon/Bezos is a good thing.

I think any savvy Republican saw the 2016 Trump takeover of the party and correctly concluded that the era of "principled" conservatives is over. It's all about instinct now, not ideas.

Belz... 7th April 2021 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey (Post 13447030)
The Republicans are all about culture war now. You get strange things like Marco Rubio giving tentative support to the workers trying to unionize the Bessemer, Alabama Amazon warehouse, not because Rubio is pro-union, but because he thinks sticking it to Amazon/Bezos is a good thing.

I'd think Democrats would support Amazon unionisation. Shouldn't Rubio be against it?

SuburbanTurkey 7th April 2021 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Belz... (Post 13447038)
I'd think Democrats would support Amazon unionisation. Shouldn't Rubio be against it?

From his own mouth, totally incoherent nonsense where he backs into supporting the union because Amazon is too woke and culture war or something.

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Originally Posted by Marco Rubio
For decades, companies like Amazon have been allies of the left in the culture war, but when their bottom line is threatened they turn to conservatives to save them. Republicans have rightly understood the dangers posed by the unchecked influence of labor unions. Adversarial relations between labor and management are wrong. They are wrong for both workers and our nation’s economic competitiveness.

But the days of conservatives being taken for granted by the business community are over.

Here’s my standard: When the conflict is between working Americans and a company whose leadership has decided to wage culture war against working-class values, the choice is easy — I support the workers. And that’s why I stand with those at Amazon’s Bessemer warehouse today.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/6947823002/

It's all about pleasing the conservative id, there's no principles anymore.


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