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Dancing David 11th January 2019 12:08 PM

“Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!” said Bullwinkle

Lrrr 11th January 2019 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560497)
I did some calculation of the mysterious Oumuamua acceleration

Any chance of seeing these calculations?

Hellbound 11th January 2019 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lrrr (Post 12560669)
Any chance of seeing these calculations?

Sorry, you'll have to find a local 10 year old if you want to see the calculations.

:D

steenkh 11th January 2019 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560497)
This aspect is a HUGE step forward for the MTR theory, - now it predict a remarkable strong upwards acceleration also for the ISS, during the period the ISS is under the Earth ( south)

So you have realised that your theory is busted because no such acceleration has been observed for the ISS or any orbit?

Crawtator 11th January 2019 02:09 PM

Yay! He actually killed his own theory!!!

....

Again!

Bjarne 11th January 2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steenkh (Post 12560701)
So you have realised that your theory is busted because no such acceleration has been observed for the ISS or any orbit?

RRKE was predicted 3 years ago, here at the forum
Long before Oumuamua
This law of nature is perfect described
There are no conflict according what I claim now
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=102

Bjarne 11th January 2019 02:21 PM

Oumuamua reached perihelion at 38,100.000 km from the Sun
Acceleration due to gravity of the Sun was 0,039 m/s2 - much more than sufficient to release the full potential of Dark Flow RRKE

Read more about RRKE written 3 years ago.... http://www.internationalskeptics.com...highlight=edfa

Based on that we know the mysterious (none gravitational) acceleration of Oumuamua is measured to be to be 0.000005 m/s2
We can conclude that that according to principle 3 ( the link above) , RRKE, and therefore also RR and DFA also is 0.000005 m/s2

http://pubs.sciepub.com/FAAC/4/1/4/image/equ1.png

This correspond to (reveals) that the solar system is moving 950 km/s (south) – this is 350 km/s more as Dark Flow is measured to be.
Maybe our universe as a hole is on the move too etc….

To exposure of the full range of RRKE connected to Dark Flow, - Oumuamua (or other objects) must be (more or less) under the Sun (south).

The ISS is 400 km from the surface of the Earth
Acceleration due to gravity is 8,7 m/s2 at that altitude.
This is also more than sufficient to release the full potential of RRKE

The ISS orbital period = 5561 seconds, lets assume that the ISS is (more or less) under the Earth 5% of the time, = 278 seconds

278 second multiplied with 0.000005 m/s2 = a speed increment at 0.00139 m/s

This too should be possible to meassure

sts60 11th January 2019 02:43 PM

“The ISS orbital period = 5561 seconds, lets assume that the ISS is (more or less) under the Earth 5% of the time, = 278 seconds“

What exactly is this supposed to mean? You previously included “under the earth” with “south“. Under the Earth with respect to what, exactly? “South” of what, exactly?

MRC_Hans 11th January 2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560715)
Oumuamua reached perihelion at 38,100.000 km from the Sun
Acceleration due to gravity of the Sun was 0,039 m/s2 - much more than sufficient to release the full potential of Dark Flow RRKE

Read more about RRKE written 3 years ago.... http://www.internationalskeptics.com...highlight=edfa

Based on that we know the mysterious (none gravitational) acceleration of Oumuamua is measured to be to be 0.000005 m/s2
We can conclude that that according to principle 3 ( the link above) , RRKE, and therefore also RR and DFA also is 0.000005 m/s2

http://pubs.sciepub.com/FAAC/4/1/4/image/equ1.png

This correspond to (reveals) that the solar system is moving 950 km/s (south) – this is 350 km/s more as Dark Flow is measured to be.
Maybe our universe as a hole is on the move too etc….

To exposure of the full range of RRKE connected to Dark Flow, - Oumuamua (or other objects) must be (more or less) under the Sun (south).

The ISS is 400 km from the surface of the Earth
Acceleration due to gravity is 8,7 m/s2 at that altitude.
This is also more than sufficient to release the full potential of RRKE

The ISS orbital period = 5561 seconds, lets assume that the ISS is (more or less) under the Earth 5% of the time, = 278 seconds

278 second multiplied with 0.000005 m/s2 = a speed increment at 0.00139 m/s

This too should be possible to meassure

Bjarne, get off it. You're just rambling.

Hans

Dancing David 11th January 2019 03:20 PM

It a cow drives a tractor to an elevator to the ISS does it make sound?

jonesdave116 11th January 2019 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancing David (Post 12560766)
It a cow drives a tractor to an elevator to the ISS does it make sound?

Bloody good question that! Don't know the answer.

hgus 11th January 2019 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sts60 (Post 12560739)
“The ISS orbital period = 5561 seconds, lets assume that the ISS is (more or less) under the Earth 5% of the time, = 278 seconds“

What exactly is this supposed to mean? You previously included “under the earth” with “south“. Under the Earth with respect to what, exactly? “South” of what, exactly?

South of North duh!

Bjarne 12th January 2019 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sts60 (Post 12560739)
“The ISS orbital period = 5561 seconds, lets assume that the ISS is (more or less) under the Earth 5% of the time, = 278 seconds“

What exactly is this supposed to mean? You previously included “under the earth” with “south“. Under the Earth with respect to what, exactly? “South” of what, exactly?

Principle 3 of the MTR theory claims:
http://science27.com/forum/bue.jpg
RR is a reversible process. This means that if no force pushes / pulls an object (further) towards the RR direction (see principle 4), the object will decelerate.
The RR affecting an object can be compared to a retracted arrow. All that is required for the retracted, potential, kinetic energy of the arrow to be released is that the force of the string is released (which also illustrates that motion opposite DFD will cause less RR, also simple to calculate based on the Lorentz equation).
Release of Retracted Potential Kinetic Energy (in short RRPKE) will affect any object moving more or less away from DFD (or any other RR affected direction) , depending on the angle of movement away from DFD.

Written 3 years ago, - source : http://www.internationalskeptics.com...highlight=edfa

So if you want to release (Dark Flow Related) Retracted Relativistic Potential Kinetic Energy ( RRPKE ) - all you need is a force to counteract the force responsible for DFA

We have seen that the mysterious none gravitational acceleration of Oumuamua was 0.000005 m/s2
Lets therefore assume that this acceleration ALL original from Dark Flow related RRPKE .
When Oumuamua travelled under the Sun the upwards acceleration from the Sun was 0,09 m/s2
Which mean 18000 stronger as necessary to cancel out DFA.

Which mean the DFA (that was effecting Oumuamua) was canceled out completely many weeks before and after Oumuamua 's perihelion.
Therefore we have reason to conclude, - that the full potential of the Dark Flow related RRPKE (that was effecting Oumuamua ) began to release it self, - right after Oumuamua went "under" the sun..

If it is fair to say that ALL the mysterious none gravitational acceleration was caused by RRPKE, then we can calculate which absolut speed we are moving ( Dark Flow + etc...)

A model that compare none gravitational acceleration, - 1.) observation and 2.) calculation must off course be made before we can get this more exact.

Anyway now we have a good right to claim
  • MTR is the ONLY theory able to predict, calculate and explain what really was happening
  • A absolute reference frame must exist
  • The theory of (especially) special relativity must be modified.
  • RR is true
  • DFA is true
  • And absolute relativistic frame of motion is true
  • And much much much more.

abaddon 12th January 2019 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560497)
I did some calculation of the mysterious Oumuamua acceleration
To my big surprise I need a force almost 100 times stronger as the MTR predict.
I checked the data agian and again but the forces was indeed much too weak.
Then suddenly tonight the solution striked me.

I discovered a new aspect of the theory, - not quite new, but rather overlooked aspect of an old principle.
This aspect is a Principle 3 aspect http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=102

So long Oumuamua is under the Sun, the upwards acceleration of the Sun will simply counteract a large part of the Dark Flow Acceleration affecting Oumuamua , this is allowing a huge part (maybe) all of the Retracted Potential Kinetic Energy connected to the Dark Flow to be Released, - or rather to start a releasing process. The result is a SIGNIFICANT acceleration.

This aspect is a HUGE step forward for the MTR theory, - now it predict a remarkable strong upwards acceleration also for the ISS, during the period the ISS is under the Earth ( south)

It opens the doors to how the MTR in a cheap way can be further confirmed. (satellites experiment VERY close to Earth).
Such will blow a GIGANTIC hole in the prevailing theory of relativity, that never never never agian will be the same.
TODAY is a GREAT day.

Oh great, you are admitting that everything you posted up to now was wrong and are replacing it with a new thing you extracted from your hinterland.

8enotto 12th January 2019 08:44 AM

Bjarne, now you need to prepare a paper with all related math and proper references.

Then submit it for peer review.

Let them declare your great achievement or explain why it cannot be.
Self declaration is hollow.

Bjarne 12th January 2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8enotto (Post 12561256)
Bjarne, now you need to prepare a paper with all related math and proper references.

Then submit it for peer review.

.


Dont worry

Bjarne 12th January 2019 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560715)
Oumuamua reached perihelion at 38,100.000 km from the Sun
Acceleration due to gravity of the Sun was 0,039 m/s2 - much more than sufficient to release the full potential of Dark Flow RRKE

Read more about RRKE written 3 years ago.... http://www.internationalskeptics.com...highlight=edfa

Based on that we know the mysterious (none gravitational) acceleration of Oumuamua is measured to be to be 0.000005 m/s2
We can conclude that that according to principle 3 ( the link above) , RRKE, and therefore also RR and DFA also is 0.000005 m/s2

http://pubs.sciepub.com/FAAC/4/1/4/image/equ1.png

This correspond to (reveals) that the solar system is moving 950 km/s (south) – this is 350 km/s more as Dark Flow is measured to be.
Maybe our universe as a hole is on the move too etc….

To exposure of the full range of RRKE connected to Dark Flow, - Oumuamua (or other objects) must be (more or less) under the Sun (south).

The ISS is 400 km from the surface of the Earth
Acceleration due to gravity is 8,7 m/s2 at that altitude.
This is also more than sufficient to release the full potential of RRKE

The ISS orbital period = 5561 seconds, lets assume that the ISS is (more or less) under the Earth 5% of the time, = 278 seconds

278 second multiplied with 0.000005 m/s2 = a speed increment at 0.00139 m/s

This too should be possible to measure

Edith
The ISS will increase speed at least 40% of the orbit time and hence reach a speed increment per orbit close to 0,01 m/s - This is easy to measure. I wonder why this not have been discovered so fare.

sts60 12th January 2019 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sts60 (Post 12560739)
“The ISS orbital period = 5561 seconds, lets assume that the ISS is (more or less) under the Earth 5% of the time, = 278 seconds“

What exactly is this supposed to mean? You previously included “under the earth” with “south“. Under the Earth with respect to what, exactly? “South” of what, exactly?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12561118)
Principle 3 of the MTR theory claims:
http://science27.com/forum/bue.jpg
[i]RR is a reversible process. This means that if no force pushes / pulls an object (further) towards the RR direction (see principle 4), the object will decelerate..,

1. You didn’t answer the questions.
2. That’s not what “reversible” means.

MRC_Hans 13th January 2019 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12561746)
Edith
The ISS will increase speed at least 40% of the orbit time and hence reach a speed increment per orbit close to 0,01 m/s - This is easy to measure. I wonder why this not have been discovered so fare.

It is because it doesn't happen.

Hans

Mojo 13th January 2019 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12561746)
Edith
The ISS will increase speed at least 40% of the orbit time and hence reach a speed increment per orbit close to 0,01 m/s - This is easy to measure. I wonder why this not have been discovered so fare.


If your theory predicts an “easy to measure” result that you have not observed, what might we conclude about your theory?

The Man 13th January 2019 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560034)
If you really knew what relativity was about then tell us all what is the cause-effect of time dilation.

Its is not enough to say:, - because of relative motion bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.

Tell me as i wrote, the cause-effect of that strange phenomena.

We have been over this before but you simply continue to ignore it.

If you are going to ascribe "time dilation" as the "effect" then the "cause", in SR, is relative motion and the local consistency of the speed of light.

Fundamentally it is just the result of choosing different frames of reference with the local consistency of the speed of light.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560034)
And tell WHAT is the curvature of space made of

Again a physical space is "made of" physical locations, whether that space is curved or flat. The difference between those topologies, flat or curved, is how those locations relate to each other (the metic, or manifold of, the space).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold


Again, what is your space "made of" if not at least locations?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560034)
Tell me also what is the cause effect of the curvature of space.

Again in general relativity the cause of the curvature of space-time is the stress energy tensor.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress...3energy_tensor

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ativ/vec4.html



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560034)
Again, I don’t need bla bla bla
I need the cause -effect for these 3 phenomena’s..

"time dilation" and "the curvature of space" are only 2 "phenomena’s" and as noted in the links the invariance of the space-time as well as the energy-momentum four vectors is associated with the invariance of the speed of light and the rest mass of the particle respectively.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560034)
You cannot, because this theory is full of huge holes of emptiness.
Many have accepted the theory, - but don’t tell me anyone have understood what this theory really is about.


'

As you have been advised of all this before it is evidently only you who hasn't "understood what this theory really is about." Even after having been advised of such, multiple times.

Bjarne 13th January 2019 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sts60 (Post 12561797)
You previously included “under the earth” with “south“. Under the Earth with respect to what, exactly? “South” of what, exactly? .

Ecliptic

Bjarne 13th January 2019 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans (Post 12561934)
It is because it doesn't happen.
Hans

You will see.

After using a couple of hour today I found the RRPKE aspect of the theory was just a little more complicated as I thought yesterday, but easy to grasp, and easy to solve.
  • Some spacegraft is only effected by Flyby Anomalies causing the craft speed to decrease (eg. Galileo II),
  • Some is only increasing speed (eg Galileo-1 and Near),
  • And finally some crafts, - is some of the path, - first decreasing and then increasing speed. - This is the case for ISS, and I believe will will discover that too very soon, now when test is going on onboard. Exact speed Measurement I belive is part of the research. So a new kind of anomaly will be seen. We will see first -0,005 m/s - then - 0,005 m/s, this path of the Orbit the ISS is under the earth / South, effecting the ISS..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyby_anomaly

All these 3 anomalies are caused by RRPKE effect.

One of many evidences showing you don't understand the theory you are criticizing , - is that you dont know why the same force (RRPKE) is effecting spacecraft completely different.
You have really no idea why thee RRPKE aspect is causing such strange oppesite results, right ?

Agian, it will be a honour for me to tell you, the solution.
However first I will give you a chance to solve this kindergarten piece of cake yourself…

Agian you will see Measurement and theory correspond exactly to observations
Agian today is a GREAT day.

MRC_Hans 13th January 2019 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12562128)
You will see.

After using a couple of hour today I found the RRPKE aspect of the theory was just a little more complicated as I thought yesterday, but easy to grasp, and easy to solve.
  • Some spacegraft is only effected by Flyby Anomalies causing the craft speed to decrease (eg. Galileo II),
  • Some is only increasing speed (eg Galileo-1 and Near),
  • And finally some crafts, - is some of the path, - first decreasing and then increasing speed. - This is the case for ISS, and I believe will will discover that too very soon, now when test is going on onboard. Exact speed Measurement I belive is part of the research. So a new kind of anomaly will be seen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyby_anomaly

All these 3 anomalies are caused by RRPKE effects.

Ah, I see. Very handy! Your theory means whatever you like it to mean in each case.

Quote:

One of many evidences showing you don't understand the theory you are criticizing , - is that you dont know why the same force (RRPKE) is effecting spacecraft completely different.
You have really no idea why thee RRPKE aspect is causing such strange oppesite results, right ?
Oh, Quite! It is because you want it to do so. Things are so easy in fantasy land where you can just make stuff up as you go, right?

Hans

MRC_Hans 13th January 2019 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12562128)
This is the case for ISS, and I believe will will discover that too very soon, now when test is going on onboard. Exact speed Measurement I belive is part of the research.

Oh, Bjarne, exact speed measurement is basic to the project. Otherwise space vehicles carrying crew and supplied to it could not find it and match velocity so they could dock. Do you even realize how exactly you need to know the speeds involved, to achieve that?

Hans

Bjarne 13th January 2019 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans (Post 12562144)
Ah, I see. Very handy! Your theory means whatever you like it to mean in each case.

Oh, Quite! It is because you want it to do so. Things are so easy in fantasy land where you can just make stuff up as you go, right?

Hans

No Hans, but because of sometimes spacecraft moves upwards (only) by flyby, sometime downwards (only) by flyby.
However the ISS is moving first downward and then upwards, thats why a similar anomaly will be completely different as seen before

No Hans NOT fantasy, - have you ever hear about Wikipedia ?

Theory and Observation goes so nice hand in hand in hand as these possible can.
The Galileo-I and Near was during the flyby only mowing upwards
Galileo II only moving downwards

The RRPKE can either slow down or speed up a space probe, - all depending of which direction it is heading relative to RRPKE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyby_anomaly

MRC_Hans 13th January 2019 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sts60 (Post 12560739)
“The ISS orbital period = 5561 seconds, lets assume that the ISS is (more or less) under the Earth 5% of the time, = 278 seconds“

What exactly is this supposed to mean? You previously included “under the earth” with “south“. Under the Earth with respect to what, exactly? “South” of what, exactly?

To Bjarne's defence, "south", "north", "under", and "over" are actually valid expressions when describing an object's position relative to the ecliptic.

Unfortunately, this also shows how little Bjarne understands of orbital mechanics. ;)

An object orbiting Earth will spend equal times "over" and "under" the ecliptic, because it is orbiting Earth's center. It can't be only 5%(or 40% as he seems to amend it later) in one of the hemispheres.

Also, the "ecliptic" has no relevance to a galactic phenomenon as the dark flow that Bjarne is talking about. The ecliptic is an arbitrary (if observational relevant) plane, defined to be the plane of Earth's orbit around the sun.

Hans

Bjarne 13th January 2019 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans (Post 12562157)
To Bjarne's defence, "south", "north", "under", and "over" are actually valid expressions when describing an object's position relative to the ecliptic.
Unfortunately, this also shows how little Bjarne understands of orbital mechanics. ;

BS
just few post above you can read this http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=142

Quote:

An object orbiting Earth will spend equal times "over" and "under" the ecliptic, because it is orbiting Earth's center. It can't be only 5%(or 40% as he seems to amend it later) in one of the hemispheres.
Still you have not understood that the acceleration due to gravity (of the object the spacecraft is orbiting) ( or fly by) must pull the spacecraft upwards at at least 0,000005 m/s2 to be able to release the full potential of RRPKE

Therefore
  1. The space craft orbit / trajectory inclination
  2. The angle of the spacecraft orbit / trajectory relative to Earth
  3. The space craft Distance from the Earth
Are all important factors, that all must be known and taken into account when calculating how stong RRPKE will effect an object.

Furthermore if the full effect of RRPKE must result in full possible speed increment, the spacecraft must move 100% opposite RRPKE, - if only moving lets say 45° then only 50% of RRPKE force will be converted to speed increment, the remaining 50% will cause orbit inclination change.

Quote:

Also, the "ecliptic" has no relevance to a galactic phenomenon as the dark flow that Bjarne is talking about. The ecliptic is an arbitrary (if observational relevant) plane, defined to be the plane of Earth's orbit around the sun.
EDFA and RR will force planet inclinations perpendicular, relative to the Dark Flow axis, - first the inner planet, then slower the out planet. This is an integrated part of the theory.

ASAM can change this , but everything points to that this influence is weak for our solar system

Reality Check 13th January 2019 01:43 PM

Insane insults when my post uses Bjarne's deluded equation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560024)
My dear, after ....

14 January 2019 Bjarne: Insane insults when my post uses Bjarne's deluded equation
Bjarne's deluded equation gives that there will be a "resulting force acting on the particle the speed of the particle will correspond to the force" in the LHC. Thus:
11 January 2019 Bjarne: An insane statement that no deceleration will happen at LHC, etc. according to his delusions!

Reality Check 13th January 2019 01:46 PM

Irrelevant gibberish is still not an answer to high school level arithmetic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560030)
In this context there ....

Irrelevant gibberish is still not an answer to high school level arithmetic:
10 January 2019 Bjarne: v^2/c^2 is < 1 for v < c so what is 1 - v^2/c^2? The square root? The reciprocal? 1 - that?
10 January 2019 Bjarne: Explain how an equation producing negative values is plotted as positive values in a graph

Reality Check 13th January 2019 01:52 PM

An inanely lying question when SR has the cause-effect of time dilation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560034)
If you really knew what relativity was about then tell us all what is the cause-effect of time dilation.

14 January 2019 Bjarne: An inanely lying question when special relativity has the cause-effect of time dilation (cause = speed, effect = time dilation).
A lying question because it is answered in my post (special relativity). The insanity of the lie is that Bjarne has been writing his delusions about special relativity for over 10 years and so must know the basics of special relativity.

11 January 2019 Bjarne: A completely ignorant and rather deluded question about time dilation (my post was about units and acceleration).

Reality Check 13th January 2019 02:05 PM

A delusion that yet another delusion fixes his delusions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560497)
I did some calculation of the mysterious Oumuamua acceleration....

14 January 2019 Bjarne: A delusion that he can debunk his delusions and lie that yet another delusion fixes it :jaw-dropp!

A feature of real world, working science is that tae laws of physics are generally applicable. Thus when we apply the laws of physics to various situations, we get results that match the real world.

We do not do the stupidity of making up a physical law that can only be applied to a single situation such as 'Oumuamua :eye-poppi! The stupidity is obvious. If applying the law fixes this situation then it will probably break all of the other situations where it was not applied. For example, what happens to Bjarne's delusions about the Pioneer anomaly?

Reality Check 13th January 2019 02:12 PM

A "RRKE was predicated" lie when all he has is yet another delusio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560710)
RRKE was predicted 3 years ...

14 January 2019 Bjarne: A "RRKE was predicted" lie when all he had and still has is yet another delusion.

The original post on 3rd February 2016 in this thread is a spate of deluded gibberish. One obvious delusion is the 10 year old RR insanity. Adding a ignorant "potential kinetic energy" to RR to make RRPKE just makes RRPKE insane. Bjarne's deluded RR is a magical acceleration that always acts. It is not his ignorant gibberish of a "retracted arrow" that can be released.

Reality Check 13th January 2019 02:22 PM

Some "potential of Dark Flow RRKE " released stupidity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560715)
Oumuamua reached perihelion at 38,100.000 km from the Sun...

14 January 2019 Bjarne: Some "potential of Dark Flow RRKE" suddenly released stupidity.

Potential energy is not suddenly released - it is continuously converted. A high school physics example is that a body falling toward Earth loses gravitational potential energy which is converted onto kinetic energy.

Reality Check 13th January 2019 02:26 PM

A "We can conclude" lie about his RRPKE delusion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12560715)
We can conclude ...

14 January 2019 Bjarne: A "We can conclude" lie about his RRPKE delusion

Bjarne is the only person in the world with his RRPKE delusion. There is not "we" :jaw-dropp!.

Reality Check 13th January 2019 02:28 PM

Repeats his stupid "good right to claim" lie when all he has is delusions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12561118)
...Anyway now we have a good right to claim

14 January 2019 Bjarne: Repeats his stupid "good right to claim" lie when all he has is delusions.

What would give him the right to make claims would be knowledge of physics applied to the real world to produce predictions that match observsions. Digging himself deeper into a pit of ignorance and delusions is not that.

Reality Check 13th January 2019 02:39 PM

A stupid question - because his delusions do not exist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12561746)
...I wonder why this not have been discovered so fare.

14 January 2019 Bjarne: A stupid question - because his delusions do not exist and so his "speed increment per orbit" is just another fantasy.

He does understand how insane a "speed increment per orbit close to 0,01 m/s" for the ISS is. This is the International Space Station launched in 1998 and with an orbital speed of 7.66 km/s. The ISS got to 100,000 orbits in 2016. That is a insanely obvious speed increment of 1 km/s.

Robin 13th January 2019 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancing David (Post 12560766)
It a cow drives a tractor to an elevator to the ISS does it make sound?

In space, no-one can hear you moo.

Reality Check 13th January 2019 02:47 PM

More lying RRPKE delusions about the Flyby anomaly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12562128)
After using a couple of hour today I found the RRPKE ....

14 January 2019 Bjarne: More lying RRPKE delusions about the Flyby anomaly

No match for the observations means Bjarne is lying that his RRPKE delusion explains the Flyby anomaly.
Usual complete ignorance about the trajectory of the flybys means Bjarne is lying that his RRPKE delusion explains the Flyby anomaly.
The insanity of expecting us to use his delusions means Bjarne is lying that his RRPKE delusion explains the Flyby anomaly.
"Measurement and theory correspond exactly to observations" is an insane lie when he has not theory or match to the measurements.

halleyscomet 13th January 2019 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjarne (Post 12562165)
BS
just few post above you can read this http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=142


Still you have not understood that the acceleration due to gravity (of the object the spacecraft is orbiting) ( or fly by) must pull the spacecraft upwards at at least 0,000005 m/s2 to be able to release the full potential of RRPKE

Therefore
  1. The space craft orbit / trajectory inclination
  2. The angle of the spacecraft orbit / trajectory relative to Earth
  3. The space craft Distance from the Earth
Are all important factors, that all must be known and taken into account when calculating how stong RRPKE will effect an object.

Furthermore if the full effect of RRPKE must result in full possible speed increment, the spacecraft must move 100% opposite RRPKE, - if only moving lets say 45° then only 50% of RRPKE force will be converted to speed increment, the remaining 50% will cause orbit inclination change.



EDFA and RR will force planet inclinations perpendicular, relative to the Dark Flow axis, - first the inner planet, then slower the out planet. This is an integrated part of the theory.

ASAM can change this , but everything points to that this influence is weak for our solar system



Yeah, if you could stop making things up and do the math to support your claims for a change. That’d be great.
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