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Bob001 18th September 2020 04:29 PM

RBG leaves the stage.
 
MSNBC and CNN are reporting that Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died at home with her family. No doubt that Trump and McConnell will try to rush through another right-wing extremist.

Resume 18th September 2020 04:30 PM

I just heard. God ******* Dammit!!!

JoeMorgue 18th September 2020 04:31 PM

We're ******.

Trebuchet 18th September 2020 04:31 PM

We are SO ******!

Trump will have a nominee within days, Moscow Mitch will have pushed through a confirmation within two weeks.

I blame you, Anthony Kennedy!

TragicMonkey 18th September 2020 04:35 PM

Surely this close to an election the office should be left for the next president's choice of candidate, right? Isn't that what the Republicans said about a year long vacancy?

pgwenthold 18th September 2020 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13228328)
We are SO ******!

Trump will have a nominee within days, Moscow Mitch will have pushed through a confirmation within two weeks.

If there were any integrity in the world, any attempt by Mitch to push this through should cause him to lose in landslide.

Of course, the morons will still vote for him.

Bob001 18th September 2020 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13228327)
We're ******.

Not necessarily. Four Repubs could block a confirmation.

pgwenthold 18th September 2020 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13228341)
Not necessarily. Four Repubs could block a confirmation.

You think there are 4 republicans with enough integrity?

Let me guess....Susan Collins?

Bob001 18th September 2020 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13228337)
Surely this close to an election the office should be left for the next president's choice of candidate, right? Isn't that what the Republicans said about a year long vacancy?

Yeah, but the President then was an evil socialist commie Kenyan Democrat!

Agatha 18th September 2020 04:39 PM

Oh, that's very sad news.

JoeMorgue 18th September 2020 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13228337)
Surely this close to an election the office should be left for the next president's choice of candidate, right? Isn't that what the Republicans said about a year long vacancy?

Oh they made their excuses for that months ago. You see this is different because Trump is an incumbent so America has "already made their choice."

I repeat. We're ******.

Safe-Keeper 18th September 2020 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13228326)
God ******* Dammit!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13228327)
We're ******.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13228328)
We are SO ******!

No, come on, tell me what you really think.

ETA
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13228346)
I repeat. We're ******.

Oh.

JoeMorgue 18th September 2020 04:41 PM

Option 1. Trump and McConnell push through a new judge who's sole requirement is "Do you agree that the President can do whatever he wants?"

Option 2. We're down a justice during the election so the SCOTUS can't say otherwise when Trump claims victory on shady pretext.

BobTheCoward 18th September 2020 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13228346)
Oh they made their excuses for that months ago. You see this is different because Trump is an incumbent so America has "already made their choice."

I repeat. We're ******.

That seems like a reasonable explanation. People have the ability to evaluate his judgement on this at the ballot box where that wasn't an option with Obama.

Bob001 18th September 2020 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13228343)
You think there are 4 republicans with enough integrity?

Let me guess....Susan Collins?

Probably Romney, maybe Sasse and Alexander on principle. Also probably everybody who's in a close race for re-election -- like S. Collins. It wouldn't surprise me if they went to McConnell quietly and said "Don't do this to us."

Safe-Keeper 18th September 2020 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13228344)
Yeah, but the President then was an evil socialist commie Kenyan Democrat!

Yeah, different rules apply when Democrat Muslims from Kenya are presidenting while black.

Also it's not "the Republicans" ruling America, it's discount Führer and wannabe banana republic dictator Trump :( .

JoeMorgue 18th September 2020 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13228355)
Probably Romney, maybe Sasse and Alexander on principle. Also probably everybody who's in a close race for re-election -- like S. Collins. It wouldn't surprise me if they went to McConnell quietly and said "Don't do this to us."

Yes I'm sure Susan will be super-concerned. Her brow will furrow like it's never furrow before as she decides after much handwringing to confirm Trump's nomination of Ivana to the Supreme Court.

Bob001 18th September 2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13228357)
Yes I'm sure Susan will be super-concerned. Her brow will furrow like it's never furrow before as she decides after much handwringing to confirm Trump's nomination of Ivana to the Supreme Court.

Susie's concern will be about her prospects for re-election. She's already behind. She won't give the Dems more ammunition.

Travis 18th September 2020 04:47 PM

*shakes fist at sky*


2020!!!!!!!

Cain 18th September 2020 04:47 PM

Haha, Yoda's dead. Time to name a replacement.

The Atheist 18th September 2020 04:49 PM

Damn.

The world loses one of greatest champion women ever, and half of America will be celebrating.

Stacyhs 18th September 2020 04:50 PM

She was a wonderful woman, may she rest in peace.

Now McConnell and the rest of the GOP Senate will show what truly hypocritical, lying POSs they really are. They will rush through a right wing nominee.

Fast Eddie B 18th September 2020 04:51 PM

Sad.

And sadder still is that her passing will be turned into a political circus.

Trebuchet 18th September 2020 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13228337)
Surely this close to an election the office should be left for the next president's choice of candidate, right? Isn't that what the Republicans said about a year long vacancy?

Ha!
Quote:

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13228339)
If there were any integrity in the world, any attempt by Mitch to push this through should cause him to lose in landslide.

Ha! Ha!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13228341)
Not necessarily. Four Repubs could block a confirmation.

Ha! Ha! Ha!
Quote:

Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13228343)
You think there are 4 republicans with enough integrity?

Let me guess....Susan Collins?

HahahahahaHA!

Collins's seat may be at risk, but if she loses the new SCROTUS will just put her in anyway, because mail voting or something.

BobTheCoward 18th September 2020 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Atheist (Post 13228364)
Damn.

The world loses one of greatest champion women ever, and half of America will be celebrating.

If she was a champion, then she was in the wrong job. The job is to accurately determine the meaning of the constitution, not champion for something.

JoeMorgue 18th September 2020 04:56 PM

"Oh noes something somehow went wrong with our carefully thought out plan of having a single 87 year quadruple cancer survivor being the only thing separating a functioning Western Style Democracy and a 3rd Grader Production of a Dictatorship."

shemp 18th September 2020 04:58 PM

This poor woman had so much pressure to hang on. She could have retired years ago and enjoyed her remaining time. She has done so much for this country, she should be remembered as a hero.

Of course, the Trumpistas are already pissing on her grave.

shemp 18th September 2020 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13228328)
We are SO ******!

Trump will have a nominee within days, Moscow Mitch will have pushed through a confirmation within two weeks.

I blame you, Anthony Kennedy!

Two weeks? They'll have a replacement in her seat before her body is fully cold.

Regnad Kcin 18th September 2020 05:01 PM

An invaluable gift for Trump. All media focus will for the time being shift away from the virus, which was hurting him, to this much more politically-charged situation. With that in mind, McConnell will take his time, providing sufficient distraction/cover for Trump he’ll ram somebody through.

All Republicans, and especially Trump, could not be happier right now.

korenyx 18th September 2020 05:01 PM

Dear 2020,

DROP DEAD!

shemp 18th September 2020 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob001 (Post 13228355)
Probably Romney, maybe Sasse and Alexander on principle. Also probably everybody who's in a close race for re-election -- like S. Collins. It wouldn't surprise me if they went to McConnell quietly and said "Don't do this to us."

Shirley you jest. There's not a single Republican who will stand up to Moscow Mitch. Not even Romney this time. It's a straight up and down party vote.

autumn1971 18th September 2020 05:04 PM

The day democracy died.

I’m glad that she at least doesn’t have to see the end of the Republic she served so well.

Venom 18th September 2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Atheist (Post 13228364)
Damn.

The world loses one of greatest champion women ever, and half of America will be celebrating.

Half of the country is beyond help, damn near.

Skeptic Ginger 18th September 2020 05:08 PM

My comments on the situation:

Our only hope is a few GOP Senators with a conscience. I think that is the case, especially with their own reelection looming.

Back up option, we take the Senate and POTUS back and follow through with the threat of expanding the number of seats on the court by ... oh let's say two or four more seats.

McConnell might take option #3): try to use it as campaign leverage.

If McConnell doesn't move for an approval vote, you can bet that means he doesn't have the votes.

If they try to push a SCOTUS nominee through you can bet that will piss off more voters than it will please.

TragicMonkey 18th September 2020 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13228392)
Our only hope is a few GOP Senators with a conscience.

May as well pray to Santa Claus, Jesus, or She-Ra.

Skeptic Ginger 18th September 2020 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shemp (Post 13228386)
Shirley you jest. There's not a single Republican who will stand up to Moscow Mitch. Not even Romney this time. It's a straight up and down party vote.

Mmmnn, some of them have already made noise they would not do that.

Trebuchet 18th September 2020 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13228377)
"Oh noes something somehow went wrong with our carefully thought out plan of having a single 87 year quadruple cancer survivor being the only thing separating a functioning Western Style Democracy and a 3rd Grader Production of a Dictatorship."

Indeed it did. Something called Mitch McConnell, more than four years ago. There's a two-century old process for appointing and replacing justices. Moscow Mitch crapped all over it.

But I fully agree with the highlighted.

JoeMorgue 18th September 2020 05:11 PM

Think about it.

Let's say that through some miracle we get the Republican Senate to agree to hold on appointing the new Justice until after the election. They won't, but let's say.

What happens when Trump loses but declares himself the winner on some pretext LIKE HE'S ALREADY ALL BUT ANNOUNCED HE'S GONNA DO? Who do we turn to? The 5-3 Conservative remaining members of the Supreme Court? Even Roberts having one of his moments of sanity would only get us to a tie with no way to break it.

Puppycow 18th September 2020 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13228337)
Surely this close to an election the office should be left for the next president's choice of candidate, right? Isn't that what the Republicans said about a year long vacancy?

Well, yes. So either they can admit that all of that was merely a cynical argument of convenience, or they can abide by the precedent they set when Scalia croaked.

I'm guessing it will be the former, but there's at least a chance that McConnell will be shamed into following his own rule.

TragicMonkey 18th September 2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13228398)
Mmmnn, some of them have already made noise they would not do that.

And if anyone can be trusted to keep their word and stick to principles it's a Republican senator, right?


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