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Norman Alexander 24th May 2021 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by turingtest (Post 13489090)
It's no accident that the shows that people like Greene bloviate on tend to have names like "Real America's Voice." These are the same sort of people that trot out the superficial "we're a republic, not a democracy!" thing when they get out-voted as a reason to ignore that result. What it all comes down to is that they are the Real Americans, with the proper values and objectives, that's what really matters, and any opposition is un-American, "socialist" or "communist," certainly ungodly. In essence, they feel that they own America, so it doesn't even really matter if they lose a vote, they're still entitled to act as if they won it. Ownership imposes an obligation to maintain itself, so just about any tactic for that righteous maintenance is by definition justified; and there's no obligation to share, so everyone else who wants in can just go hang.

If America changed to encompass things they don't agree with, it's not America anymore.
It helps justify their petty hatreds. That's their motivation to get up each day, Finding something else to hate.

Crossbow 24th May 2021 08:59 AM
Greene has once again decided to pick a stupid fight.

Her fight this time is with a person that she that she knows very little about.

https://news.yahoo.com/marjorie-tayl...121424948.html

Marjorie Taylor Greene's 'Incoherent' Twitter Fight With Robert Reich Is A Doozy

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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) launched a stupefying Twitter attack Sunday on former Labor Secretary Robert Reich after he called for her expulsion from the House. He further irked the conspiracy-loving lawmaker by misspelling her last name.

...

“Can we all agree that Marjorie Taylor Green must be expelled from Congress?” he wrote.

To which Greene, a QAnon supporter who lost her House committee assignments for advancing baseless conspiracies, replied with a spelling error of her own (“Berkley”) and her usual ad hominem drivel:

“It’s Greene with an “e” on the end. Don’t know you, but when I saw Berkley in your bio, I got it. Just put the hammer and sickle with it. Being a communists professor, you’ve never done the real hard work that builds the economy, you just teach ideas that will destroy it.”

One of Reich’s many books is titled “Saving Capitalism.”

...

Apathia 24th May 2021 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 13489277)
Greene has once again decided to pick a stupid fight.

Her fight this time is with a person that she that she knows very little about.

https://news.yahoo.com/marjorie-tayl...121424948.html

Marjorie Taylor Greene's 'Incoherent' Twitter Fight With Robert Reich Is A Doozy
Has she gotten into a cat fight with Randy Rainbow yet?
I want to see that!

Stacyhs 24th May 2021 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Apathia (Post 13489312)
Has she gotten into a cat fight with Randy Rainbow yet?
I want to see that!
Randy's done a parody song just for her:

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I AGREE

dudalb 24th May 2021 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by turingtest (Post 13489090)
It's no accident that the shows that people like Greene bloviate on tend to have names like "Real America's Voice." These are the same sort of people that trot out the superficial "we're a republic, not a democracy!" thing when they get out-voted as a reason to ignore that result. What it all comes down to is that they are the Real Americans, with the proper values and objectives, that's what really matters, and any opposition is un-American, "socialist" or "communist," certainly ungodly. In essence, they feel that they own America, so it doesn't even really matter if they lose a vote, they're still entitled to act as if they won it. Ownership imposes an obligation to maintain itself, so just about any tactic for that righteous maintenance is by definition justified; and there's no obligation to share, so everyone else who wants in can just go hang.

If America changed to encompass things they don't agree with, it's not America anymore.
Yup, they think they are the only 100% Americans.
Which brings us George Bernard Shaw's comment on the 100% Americans o the 1920's:
"The 100% American is a 1000% idiot".

Stacyhs 24th May 2021 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13489400)
Yup, they think they are the only 100% Americans.
Which brings us George Bernard Shaw's comment on the 100% Americans o the 1920's:
"The 100% American is a 1000% idiot".
I have to agree with that. I find the more 'loudly, proudly' and over the top 'patriotic' someone professes to be, the more stupid they tend to be. I mean, seriously:



http://www.internationalskeptics.com...bfcab80d97.jpg

dudalb 24th May 2021 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13489424)
I have to agree with that. I find the more 'loudly, proudly' and over the top 'patriotic' someone professes to be, the more stupid they tend to be. I mean, seriously:



http://www.internationalskeptics.com...bfcab80d97.jpg
It's not the patriotism I find bad, but that only White Christian Americans can be true patriots in these idiot's eyes. And there are signs that Christian in that is turning into "Protestent" again.

Belz... 24th May 2021 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossbow (Post 13489277)
Greene has once again decided to pick a stupid fight.

Her fight this time is with a person that she that she knows very little about.

https://news.yahoo.com/marjorie-tayl...121424948.html

Marjorie Taylor Greene's 'Incoherent' Twitter Fight With Robert Reich Is A Doozy
It's really interesting. Greene and others know that their constituents have no idea what communism is besides "bad", and they just wantonly label everything they disagree with as "communist" to exploit that.

TragicMonkey 24th May 2021 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13489447)
It's not the patriotism I find bad, but that only White Christian Americans can be true patriots in these idiot's eyes. And there are signs that Christian in that is turning into "Protestent" again.
And eventually it'll be only the right kinds of Protestant.

dudalb 24th May 2021 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey (Post 13489457)
And eventually it'll be only the right kinds of Protestant.
Well we all know that Episopalians are not really Protesents..and, Ironically enough, Lutherans are suspect also.

DevilsAdvocate 24th May 2021 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Belz... (Post 13489456)
It's really interesting. Greene and others know that their constituents have no idea what communism is besides "bad", and they just wantonly label everything they disagree with as "communist" to exploit that.
"It's just like a communiss to treat his momma bad." - Irene Reilly.

Norman Alexander 24th May 2021 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Belz... (Post 13489456)
It's really interesting. Greene and others know that their constituents have no idea what communism is besides "bad", and they just wantonly label everything they disagree with as "communist" to exploit that.
A tactic that can be easily exploited, if played right. If you can manipulate her to start labelling everything in sight as "communist" including her own party members and policies then her abject stupidity becomes a national joke.

smartcooky 24th May 2021 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13489400)
Yup, they think they are the only 100% Americans.
Which brings us George Bernard Shaw's comment on the 100% Americans o the 1920's:
"The 100% American is a 1000% idiot".
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl1upizpz9...rica.jpg?raw=1

Stacyhs 24th May 2021 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13489447)
It's not the patriotism I find bad, but that only White Christian Americans can be true patriots in these idiot's eyes. And there are signs that Christian in that is turning into "Protestent" again.
Real patriots don't constantly need to be declaring how "patriotic" they are by flying a gazillion flags from their trucks, wearing it as every conceivable piece of clothing they can imagine. What they're really doing is virtue signaling.

smartcooky 24th May 2021 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13489660)
Real patriots don't constantly need to be declaring how "patriotic" they are by flying a gazillion flags from their trucks, wearing it as every conceivable piece of clothing they can imagine. What they're really doing is virtue scumbag signaling.
FTFY

Stacyhs 25th May 2021 11:39 AM
Kevin McCarthy has finally officially condemned MTG's 'star' comment....after FIVE days:
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“Marjorie is wrong, and her intentional decision to compare the horrors of the Holocaust with wearing masks is appalling. The Holocaust is the greatest atrocity committed in history. The fact that this needs to be stated today is deeply troubling.

“At a time when the Jewish people face increased violence and threats, anti-Semitism is on the rise in the Democrat Party and is completely ignored by Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“Americans must stand together to defeat anti-Semitism and any attempt to diminish the history of the Holocaust.

“Let me be clear: the House Republican Conference condemns this language.”
Of course, he has to lie and include this little gem: "anti-Semitism is on the rise in the Democrat Party and is completely ignored by Speaker Nancy Pelosi."

Ilhan Omar was rebuked not only by Pelosi but by fellow Democrats when she made her anti-Semitic "“It's all about the Benjamins baby,” quip back in 2019.
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“Congresswoman Omar’s use of anti-Semitic tropes and prejudicial accusations about Israel’s supporters is deeply offensive,” said Pelosi, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn and other party leaders in a statement. “We condemn these remarks and we call upon Congresswoman Omar to immediately apologize for these hurtful comments.“
She was forced to apologize:
Quote:
"My intention is never to offend my constituents or Jewish Americans as a whole. We have to always be willing to step back and think through criticism, just as I expect people to hear me when others attack me for my identity. This is why I unequivocally apologize."
It's a good thing McCarthy doesn't burst into flames every time he lies or he's be nothing but a charred POS by now.

Belz... 25th May 2021 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13490466)
Kevin McCarthy has finally officially condemned MTG's 'star' comment....after FIVE days:
Gods, he's bad at this. His segue into the Democrats being evil is really awkward.

Mumbles 25th May 2021 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13490466)
Ilhan Omar was rebuked not only by Pelosi but by fellow Democrats when she made her anti-Semitic "“It's all about the Benjamins baby,” quip back in 2019.
This wasn't really anti-semitic - it was anti-lobbyists giving money to politicians, much like her stance on the NRA, Heritage Action, and so on. It was treated as anti-Semitic by the same people who mostly didn't mind Dolt 45 repeatedly and clearly stating that Jewish Americans have dual loyalties to Israel, however.

McCarthy's also whining about the disgust much of the left has towards Netanyahu's treatment of Palestinians, in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. I'm also disgusted by Netanyahu, as are many Jewish Americans I've spoken to.

dudalb 25th May 2021 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Belz... (Post 13490479)
Gods, he's bad at this. His segue into the Democrats being evil is really awkward.
He's from Bakersfield. What can you expect?

dudalb 25th May 2021 01:24 PM
MTG might well be the future of the GOP........

RecoveringYuppy 25th May 2021 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13490593)
MTG might well be the future of the GOP........
It looks to me like that future is already here. She isn't saying anything that isn't a belief of the rank and file of the GOP.

Belz... 25th May 2021 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy (Post 13490605)
It looks to me like that future is already here.
Exactly what I was going to say.

They expelled Cheney but not her? Yeah, she's the present of the GOP.

smartcooky 25th May 2021 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mumbles (Post 13490497)
McCarthy's also whining about the disgust much of the left has towards Netanyahu's treatment of Palestinians, in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. I'm also disgusted by Netanyahu, as are many Jewish Americans I've spoken to.
The problem here is people like Kevin McCarthy and his fellow GQPers are too stupid to understand the fact that being anti-Israel doesn't mean you are anti-Semitic.

slyjoe 25th May 2021 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13490658)
The problem here is people like Kevin McCarthy and his fellow GQPers are too stupid to understand the fact that being anti-Israel doesn't mean you are anti-Semitic.
Good point. Another good "...do you know the difference" question for GOPers.

Trebuchet 25th May 2021 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13489359)
Randy's done a parody song just for her:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.
I AGREE
I'd seen it before, of course, but had to watch again. Randy is great.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13490466)
Kevin McCarthy has finally officially condemned MTG's 'star' comment....after FIVE days:


Of course, he has to lie and include this little gem: "anti-Semitism is on the rise in the Democrat Party and is completely ignored by Speaker Nancy Pelosi."

Ilhan Omar was rebuked not only by Pelosi but by fellow Democrats when she made her anti-Semitic "“It's all about the Benjamins baby,” quip back in 2019.

She was forced to apologize:


It's a good thing McCarthy doesn't burst into flames every time he lies or he's be nothing but a charred POS by now.
His pants, on the other hand...




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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13490573)
He's from Bakersfield. What can you expect?
So was Buck Owens. Who'd be a better congressman, despite being dead.

Stacyhs 25th May 2021 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumbles (Post 13490497)
This wasn't really anti-semitic - it was anti-lobbyists giving money to politicians, much like her stance on the NRA, Heritage Action, and so on. It was treated as anti-Semitic by the same people who mostly didn't mind Dolt 45 repeatedly and clearly stating that Jewish Americans have dual loyalties to Israel, however.

McCarthy's also whining about the disgust much of the left has towards Netanyahu's treatment of Palestinians, in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. I'm also disgusted by Netanyahu, as are many Jewish Americans I've spoken to.
You're absolutely right; poor wording on my part. I agree 100% about Netanyahu and the difference between being antisemitic* and not necessarily being pro-Israeli policies and their treatment of Palestinians.

*The ADL had adopted this spelling.

Carlotta 25th May 2021 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 13490669)
I'd seen it before, of course, but had to watch again. Randy is great
And so much prettier than MTG!!

Belz... 25th May 2021 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13490658)
The problem here is people like Kevin McCarthy and his fellow GQPers are too stupid to understand the fact that being anti-Israel doesn't mean you are anti-Semitic.
Ideologues aren't great at nuance.

quadraginta 25th May 2021 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13490573)
He's from Bakersfield. What can you expect?

I expect you could pick anybody at random off the street in Bakersfield and they would probably do better.

Or anywhere else for that matter.

The Repugnican Party seems to have honed their ability to pick the most disgusting people possible to serve in their party to a needle point.

Stacyhs 25th May 2021 11:09 PM
Bakersfield is so bad that people are even willing to go to Congress to get away from there.

Norman Alexander 26th May 2021 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13490979)
Bakersfield is so bad that people are even willing to go to Congress to get away from there.
With or without MAGA hats and bear spray?

Stacyhs 26th May 2021 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13491069)
With or without MAGA hats and bear spray?
Some are so desperate, they're even willing to be members of Congress.

I have a niece who lives in Bakersfield. To say it's an armhole pit is an understatement. Her ex-husband committed suicide by cop there last year. No lie.

Norman Alexander 26th May 2021 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13491492)
Some are so desperate, they're even willing to be members of Congress.

I have a niece who lives in Bakersfield. To say it's an armhole pit is an understatement. Her ex-husband committed suicide by cop there last year. No lie.
At least he got out of there.

Craig4 26th May 2021 04:17 PM
I'm trying to figure out how being a pissy little prison date is in any way a resume builder for being the Speaker of the House.

gnome 26th May 2021 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Belz... (Post 13490738)
Ideologues aren't great at nuance.
The smart ones know that their audience isn't great at it.

But I think what we're seeing is the audience being promoted to functional ideologue.

dudalb 28th May 2021 10:40 AM
America is going through a very rought time, bu tthe consed cending and contempt I am getting from some people here is not helping matters much.

MRC_Hans 28th May 2021 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13493699)
America is going through a very rought time, bu tthe consed cending and contempt I am getting from some people here is not helping matters much.
Well, unfortunately, many of us think that America is truly deplorable. We could keep silent about that, but ... heck, this is not the place to do that.

Hans

dudalb 28th May 2021 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 13490658)
The problem here is people like Kevin McCarthy and his fellow GQPers are too stupid to understand the fact that being anti-Israel doesn't mean you are anti-Semitic.
Define Anti Israel. You can not like the policies of Bibi's government, but still support Isreal;s righ to texist as a indepdent country.

Norman Alexander 28th May 2021 02:47 PM
Meanwhile...

Has MTG managed to get herself back on the news recently? I've seen nothing for a while, come to think of it. Has her bright star burned out after only a few months?

bobdroege7 28th May 2021 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13493969)
Meanwhile...

Has MTG managed to get herself back on the news recently? I've seen nothing for a while, come to think of it. Has her bright star burned out after only a few months?
Yes she has, but then bat **** crazy congress critters always get on the news.

She was basically calling democrats nazis in her latest rant.


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