How do you know Trump wasn't told about this attempt?

Whether Trump acts appropriately on it doesn't mean that the FBI should sit on it. If they inform him and he does nothing, that's on him. If they don't inform him, or Biden, then that's on them.

Could be. If he was, then I think we should be told. Given how much people leak against him, that doesn't seem likely to me. It seems really foolish of him to start pushing the Justice Department and the FBI for an explanation if he was told.

Utter bull **** and continued evidence that you're ready to ignore every fact you find inconvenient.

The sources are compromised, the story of the information acquisition makes no sense, and the [mis]information has not been authenticated.

This isn't a response to what I said in my post. Are you responding to a different post?

Wait a sec. You really believe the public at large should be briefed on all warnings the president receives? You mean in real time, or later? You don't necessarily announce publicly every detail of an investigation as it develops.

I have a hunch both men were told, but that's all it is.

I agree it seems foolish. I think really he is telegraphing something to Barr, who for some reason is not quite willing to pull indictments out of his ass at Trump's behest.

No, of course not. If at this point in the game Trump is using these emails to try to discredit Biden and claiming he didn't know they were fake, when in fact he was told about it and was told that the emails on the laptop were forged.... then I want to know.

That again would be shocking, that the emails have already been shown to be fake and we aren't being told. Why wouldn't Biden say something? It would be a terrific bit of corruption to take into the last days of the election.

I think indictments are a little way off what ever is going on. Trump is sticking his neck way out here..... He's making it much easier for the FBI to screw him if that's what the information they have does.

It's hard to credit that something this laughable is the actual October Surprise. Misdirection, surely?

That does seem likely, doesn't it?

There's also the fact that the beneficiaries of the interference are the ones bearing a lot of responsibility for stopping it. Yet here we are.

The possibly Russian planted, possibly made up entirely by Rudy G, possibly non-existent emails could just as easily possibly not.

Possibly, but not likely.

Follow the hoax
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...unter-biden-a/

That's all interesting and likely true. But it never reported on an actual laptop. Oh well.

"Major Garrett
@MajorCBS
Via
@ClareHymes22

@CBSNews


The FBI & DOJ concur with DNI Ratcliffe’s assessment that Hunter Biden's laptop and the emails in question were not part of a Russian disinformation campaign. FBI does has possession of the Hunter Biden laptop in question.

@DNI_Ratcliffe

@FBI"

Did I miss it? I'm not seeing any widespread claim that the emails are fake.

From the Columbus Dispatch:
Why would anyone bother making that up? It's a perfectly ordinary email and the Biden campaign has said it has no official record of such a meeting but that it could have happened.

If you have the text of other emails please link to them.

Who's job is it to tell us? And again, who says they're fake?

He has said something.
What would the news be? Donald Trump is corrupt?

Trump getting Giuliani to fake an email and slander an opponents son is pretty tame for this administration honestly. Doing it in the most stupidly ham handed way possible is expected

You'd think he could have done better if he wanted to make something up.

I don’t think they’ve ever shown any ability or interest in being clever.

Giuliani goes there

"sexually inappropriate...with a unnamed 14 year old girl"

"numerous pictures of underage girls"

Turns over evidence to Delaware State Police.

Don't shoot the messenger!

It's going to be entertaining watching those who have been lecturing us about not trusting US government agencies, and what they say about the Russians, spin this one into orbit.

Lol don’t worry this isn’t Kenosha nobody is going to shoot you. But I thought the computer guy gave the FBI the hard drive a while ago? So this guy has a hard drive full of child porn and hands it over to Rudy who, and I’ll remind you this is a hard drive full of child porn, that he sits on for a week doing the talk show circuit and when the media doesn’t bite he finally decides it’s time to contact the police, while holding a hard drive full of child porn that he got from a computer repair guy who claims it’s a copy from Hunter Biden that he couldn’t actually see without his glasses.

And Hunter Biden is the problem here?

FWIW

"@peterschweizer
BREAKING. Hearing that Bevan Cooney who has shared his Biden related emails with us has been REMOvED from the federal facility in Oregon where he is being detained"

Not much. Got anybody else besides Breitbart, OAN and Glen Beck?

I should put these in categories of laughable, SBAR (stupid beyond all reason), or here it is already addressed and/or 'exactly'.

I'm pretty sure this is a common theme.

It's SBAR. Giuliani couldn't find anyone interested except the NY Post.

Exactly and so we are having this conversation.

It's absurdly not even close. But the point is, keep the story in the news feed.

:sdl:

:dl:

Exactly, and given the point isn't to present a credible story, the point is to present the SBAR nonsense. Any engagement by Biden is a bonus.

Pretty sure we do know, Giuliani is the source and maybe the Russians helped him out.

:dl:

Bingo!

He has an appearance scheduled Thursday. We'll see.

I think you're on to something here.

:dl:

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

Almost always the case with CTs.

:rolleyes: I'm pretty sure such meetings are confidential and unlike Trump, Biden respects that confidentiality.

They weren't too bad before Trump stepped in to make the top leaders his ass-kissing minions. Wray seems to be holding his own for now.

If someone's life was at risk, the FBI would move in. Your analogy is SBAR.

:sdl: You're still operating on an SBAR premise.

And this is the problem with bothering to discredit the story.

:sdl:

Trump sent the idiot Giuliani because Trump cannot been seen as directly involved. But maybe Trump asked the Russians to make this laptop nonsense up and they did a half-assed job too.

Well, here's Giuliani admitting it's a hoax on a radio show:

"even if it isn’t accurate, the American people are entitled to know it"

The Conspiracy Theory forum is thataway —————->

Do they have all 3 laptops?

What's the conspiracy? That he was moved from his cell or that he gave Breitbart reporters access to his emails?

Link

There is only one laptop. John Paul, the owner of the repair store, sent two of them home with Biden because one of them could not be repaired and the other was a quick fix that didn't need to be left at the shop

So, if there turns out to be child porn of Hunter Biden with a 14 year old girl on the laptop, and the FBI have done nothing about it... in your opinion the bad guy in the story is Giuliani for having revealed that in a way that maximizes how bad it makes Biden and all the people covering it up look?

Which Biden are you referring to here? There is no evidence that Joe Biden is covering any pornography up, much less anything else. If turns out that HUNTER Biden engaged in sex with a 14 year old, he should have the book thrown at him. But it would have nothing to do with Joe Biden.

This "scandal" is amazing, even by today's standards.

It started with "Biden has met some guy from Burisma".

When it became clear that this meeting never happened, it became "Biden, the Big Guy, may have been involved in a business scheme in China".

Now that it appears that some guy vaguely related to the Trump campaign (wait, his name is, I have it on the tip of my lips, ah yes, Donald J. Trump) has actual business interests in China, it went into PizzaGate territory: "there is child porn on the computer".

Evidence? None whatsoever.

All they want is trigger a"Comey letter" moment, find someone at the DOJ release a statement that the "thing" is under investigation.

It seems that the narrative is that the parent is responsible for the (alleged) sins of their children no matter how old the child is.

If Hunter Biden had a substance abuse problem then it must be a fault with his genes (unlike President Trump who has the best genes) and/or his upbringing (unlike the Trump children who have had the perfect childhood).

The fact that Hunter Biden has unfounded allegations of possession of possessing child pornography and being a hebephile or ephebophile indicates that there must be something terribly wrong with him - there's no smoke without fire - which again must be a problem with his genes or upbringing. :rolleyes:

Please note however, this only applies to the children of prominent Democrats.

You've switched from saying that you don't believe it doesn't happen to saying that you don't believe it should happen. Those are two very different statements.

One is a statement about what I think should happen, hence I used the word "should". The other is a statement about what I believed happen, hence the word "believe".

Meh, the take I heard is that the tale is so obviously false that it's too sloppy to be Russian disinformation, and is instead likely someone trying to imitate it. I can believe that. We'll see.

Mind you, the source is Fox News, and Garrett is just repeating it. As I said, we'll see.

[edit]Here's the story. Note the source of their information:

Yes, dear. That's literally what I've just said.

He doesn't seem to have had the book thrown at him though, does he? 10 months later and nothing. The story will be that this was covered up to protect Biden. Of course it will be a problem for Biden if this comes out.

That link also has him quoted as saying that he chose to give it to the NTP because he knew they wouldn't try to verify the story before publishing.

This lot really do say the quiet part out loud, don't they?

Delaware state police have issued a statement saying that they turned it all over to the FBI because of the questions around the credibility of the claims

Well, that's a vindication of Giuliani if ever I read one.