You didn't make up the lie.
You shared it.
You spread it.
You perpetrated it.
And you attacked people who doubted it.

Nope. The thread is here for all to read.

Honestly, I expected you would take the tack of huffily declaring it was just sexually inappropriate pictures, not porn! I didn't expect you to just deny it all.

So, guess I will ask: when you jumped in here to laugh at everyone doubting this story and report how Giuliani had dropped off the laptop with the Delaware PD for child porn, did you believe he was lying or telling the truth? When you argued that the FBI having this info for 10 months without doing anything didn't mean anything it could still be true, were you defending the claim and did you still believe the claim at that time? Do you still believe it?

Link to me attacking someone who doubted there was child porn on the laptop, or defending the claim there was child porn on it. The post speaks for itself. "Giuliani goes there," the claim, "Don't shoot the messenger."

No. You'll just deny it like you deny everything. The thread is here for everyone to read, I'm not playing the "Show me where I said that!" game with you.

And you notice neither is anyone else.

We all know this game.

And I notice you didn't deny knowingly spreading falsehoods, you just latched onto the one statement you thought you could stall the discussion out with by giving people a fetch quest to complete. Very transparent.

I notice there is no link in there which shows me attacking someone doubting there is child porn on the laptop. And there is no link in there of me defending the claim of child porn on the laptop either. Back up your claim.

No, because you can't, because it never happened.

Okay here's a link. It's in the thread called "Bill Barr and his October Surprise" on the International Skeptic Forums message board. You can find it with Google.

Stop trying to get out of being arguing into a corner by giving us fetch quests to complete that we both know you'll just deny when we complete anyway.

"Neither is anyone else" because it never happened. If it had, you would discredit me unequivocally. That you can't, only discredits you and others who made the claim.

So yeah this is a nothingburger. And it's not working. Trump wanted this to be his "Comey Letter" for this election and it frizzled out at best, backfired at worst.

They are, according to the New York Times.

I'm comfortable with anyone reading this thread and judging my credibility.

Haha cop out. You can't cite, and you can't quote it, because it never happened. You aren't helping yourself by going down this road. You're losing credibility by the post.

Same here, they all see that I never attacked anyone for doubting the claim of child porn on the laptop, and they can see I never supported the claim. They also see the ones here claiming the opposite and that you can't cite to support your claim.

The gatewaypundit posted pictures this morning of Hunter standing in a doorway while wearing nothing but a robe and the robe is wide open exposing his genitalia . In the room behind him is a person who has been blurred so as they are not recognizable and who is claimed to be a minor. So, yeah, I think I will remain skeptical about Hunter's claims of someone making up BS for the time being.

That must have been very exciting for you.

I can't imagine there are very many pictures of drug addicts being stupid in this world. It is really amazing that "the gatewaypundit" was able to find one. Next they'll have a rare photo of a kitty being adorable.

All sarcasm aside, I will not vote for Hunter or the kitty.

Yup, so ... still not voting for hunter.

1. He did drop the laptop off

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/6005040002/

2. How do you know the FBI isn't doing anything?

3. Do I still believe what?

I notice you still won't back up the claim that I attacked posters here for doubting or rejecting the claim of child porn on the laptop)hard drive), or of me supporting or believing the claim of child porn on the laptop. Also, because you have not backed up your claim(because you can't) shouldn't you retract the claim? Or are you comfortable being openly dishonest?

"Is claimed" by whom?

From Gateway Pundit:''

Jill Biden is not Hunter's mother. Kind of a big honking error IMO.

I've lost track, how did these texts come to light?

Tapes. By my count there are six videos where Hunter's face is clearly visible and one where only his body can be seen. However, the person in the video is wearing the same bracelets, ring and necklaces that Hunter has been on video and in photos wearing also. I guess you could claim fakery on that as well but it would be awful strange for the Russians to hire a body double to fake another porn video of Hunter because the first 6 weren't enough?

There are also dozens of photos now. You could claim that a handful of them are fake because the header data says they were taken in the District of Columbia, Maryland and Delaware. Everybody knows that Hunter lives in California so for some reason it's impossible for him to be anywhere other than California.

I shall now point out the error in your thinking.

That article, from last week and already discussed, does not say Hunter dropped the laptop off.

The context was Rudy dropping the laptop/drive/copy to the New Castle County PD.

I love how they blurred the photo with alarming red scratchy marks. Much scarier than simply pixilating.

I admire how Joe is staying on message.

OK, my bad. But the lie alleged wasn't about whether Rudy dropped off the "laptop." It was about how he characterized the contents.

I'm comfortable with not playing an endless game of fetch for you when your first attempt backfired in your face.

You do get that your JAQ 2. is you defending the claim, right? You're literally doing it in the very post where you demand I prove you're doing it.

Nothing backfired in my face, have you looked in a mirror? Your face is charred from making a claim you can't support. You can't seem to differentiate between me posting what someone else claims, and my claims. The cite provided for me accepting as true the claim that there is child porn on the laptop/drive/copy does no such thing, nor does it support me attacking anyone who doubts the claim.

The only reason it's endless is because you keep making claims you can't support because they aren't true. Citing me supporting the child porn claim or attacking one who doubts it would end it. You can't, and I'll keep reminding people of that.

"You're literally doing it in the very post where you demand I prove you're doing it."


Wrong, it's a comprehension problem on your part if you think that.

Cite me supporting the claim that there is child porn on the laptop/drive/copy, or cite me attacking someone doubting the claim of child porn on the laptop/drive/copy. Otherwise you will continue to look dishonest. Or, you know......you can retract the erroneous claim.

Several people who have seen the hard drive.

Well that's it, everything else is fake because the gatewaypundit said "mom" instead of "stepmom."
Also…


From the computer hard drive of a well-known junkie who was dragged all around the world by his daddy on Air Force 2.

Sometimes, you know, people are able to stop saying "That's not my position! That was falsely attributed to me as my position that I obviously never made!"

And then, in a spasm of actual honesty, they can tell us what their position actually is. Like, y'know, do they believe the actual smear? Do they really believe that Hunter Biden travelled 3,000 miles from his home to give a few laptops to a blind Trump supporter? Do they understand that Giuliani stuck his hand down his pants because he didn't want to get an erection with his penis folded over (ouch, that can be really painful, I know that from personal experience).

Sometimes I wonder, if you're making a lot of noise that people falsely attributed a position you never made, maybe you could tell us what your actual position IS.

For example, my position is that they don't have any laptop computers at all that belonged to Hunter Biden, the whole thing is a dirty fraud that was intended to be an October Surprise, the fraud folded like a penis in cheap underwear, and the only real Trump supporters remaining support Trump because of his racism and cruelty. Prove me wrong.

People who have argued themselves into a corner always want to talk a lot about what their position isn't and never about what their position is.

I'll assume this will be more of the same until proven otherwise.

It's nobody else's fault that you rely on a garbage source for your garbage information.

Conversely, some people wait to see all there is without rejecting or supporting. It's a developing story.

I've actually posted things which tend to support something shady with regard to the release. People have construed my position into support of everything re the laptop/drive/copy. They ignored what I handed them on a silver platter, and attacked me without considering the content of what I posted, if they even bothered to look at it.

Hey, Gateway Pundit only bought into Jacob Wohl's Mueller sex scandal, why would they be considered unreliable in the least? Don't shoot the messenger man....

I'm starting to think that one of those Russian broads who Hunter was hanging out with in LA probably slipped him a Michael Finn and took the photo with an incapacitated Hunter and the crack pipe.

Oh god, I wonder how people got that impression. Must be everyone else and not you at all.

Your position is I attacked those who doubt the claim of child porn on the laptop and that I believed the claim of child porn on the laptop. No evidence forthcoming on your claim, nor will there be because you made it up. How's that corner behind you? Not much room, you're jammed in there pretty tight. A retraction on your claim would go a long way to showing honesty on your part.

Not everyone, certain posters who outright lie about what I've said, yes.

From your first posts in this thread:

"Also, Bannon, Giuliani, the guy from the video, and virus conspiracy chick in the mirror. Bannon is behind Giuliani. So while you are screaming Russia, it's more than likely China. Although, I haven't seen anything to say the laptop wasn't Hunter's, or that it was a hack. If anyone has evidence of that, I'd like to see it. The Campaign/Biden haven't alleged that.


People here are stuck on Russia/Ukraine/Burisma, the incriminating stuff is the China allegations.

Also, FoxNews supposedly contacted someone in the email chain regarding Chinese business FWIW. They supposedly authenticated the email."

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"Because you've been told that the sky is falling and there are Russians under your bed, and you believe it?"

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"Also, Peter Schweitzer has 26,000 emails given to him by Hunter Biden's business partner Bevan Cooney who is now in jail. So there's that."

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"I'm not sure why you would say that, given the emails supposedly have Hunter saying "Pop" makes him give half the money to him in one, and 10 million in Chinese money is for "the big man" in another."

Can't imagine how people got the idea you thought this was legit. :rolleyes:

I think you're being unfair. I doubt they ever actually bought into it. They just don't care whether or not anything they publish is true.

Dog person, eh?

Me either, there is a clear difference in posting the actual claims, and saying you believe them :rolleyes:

Sorry if you had a problem with me pointing out what the actual claims were.