When an administration changes I think you will find that most US attorneys are changed.

I haven't seen any claim from Giuliani or the Delaware PD that Giuliani had the laptop. The laptop is on the subpoena. The repair guy is quoted as saying he handed the laptop to the FBI.

It's on attachment A to the subpoena that you got the serial number for the external drive from. Look one line up from the external drive. There were two items on the subpoena, the laptop and the external drive. The laptop was item 1, the external drive was item 2.

Where does Giuliani claim to have the laptop?

Maybe, but you don't fire the whole FBI.

Yes.

May 20, 2017 text exchange obtained by #FoxNews - Tony Bobulinski is warned by business partner James Gilliar "Don't mention Joe being involved, it's only when u are face to face, I know u know that but they are paranoid"

A rational person sorting the misinformation:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...d-drive-431022

What laptop is the Delaware AG claiming Giuliani turned over to the Delaware PD?

Do you have a quote of the Delaware AG claiming a laptop has been handing over by Giuliani. The quote you showed before said:

Do you have a quote that confirms it is in fact a laptop, and not maybe a hard disk, or some other media? Again, there was a subpoena for the laptop in December 2019 and the repair guy says he handed it over to the FBI then.

More critically, an attorney general loyal to the law will be put in office.

https://www.delawareonline.com/story...te/3655753001/

"In a winding interview with the media, John Paul Mac Isaac, owner of The Mac Shop in Wilmington, recalled how in April 2019 a man who identified himself as Hunter Biden brought three liquid-damaged laptops to his small repair shop in the Trolley Square shopping center"

"A Wilmington computer repairman who reportedly gave a copy of Hunter Biden’s laptop hard drive to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney, Brian Costello"

"During the subsequent summer and fall, Mac Isaac said he became alarmed after browsing through the computer's files. He claims he then spoke with an associate more versed than him in the law and in current events.

That unnamed person then contacted the FBI, Mac Isaac said.

Federal investigators from Wilmington and Baltimore then subpoenaed the laptop in December"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...paul-mac-isaac

"When asked, Isaac, whose social media posts indicate is a supporter of President Trump, rejected the possibility that the laptop did not belong to Hunter Biden and was an attempt to set him up."

"The customer did not return for the laptop within 90 days and Isaac could not get in touch with him. Isaac said he first searched the emails by keyword in June or July of 2019."

"In September, he contacted an intermediary about the emails. The intermediary then contacted the FBI."

"According to Isaac’s account, the FBI first made a forensic copy of the laptop, then returned weeks later with a subpoena and confiscated it. When he stopped hearing from the FBI, Isaac said he contacted several members of Congress, who did not respond. At that point, his intermediary reached out to Rudy Giuliani’s attorney, Robert Costello."

Is nobody interested in Biden's business partner? It amounts to an accusation that Joe Biden has been lying about his involvement in Hunter's business dealings and has been taking bribes from the Chinese. Plus obviously confirming that some of the emails are genuine.

Somehow we're both reading that quote of Giuliani trying to turn over a laptop to the Delaware PD, but only one of us can see the word laptop in it?

Eta: the repair guy has repeatedly given different stories. Relying on his word is not advisable.

We would be if there was anything on this nothingburger outside the word of a known liar and and a totally unknown dropping conveniently at the 11th hour of an election Trump has openly declared he's going to cheat to win.

You are playing semantics revolving around "the laptop." The repair guy only copied one. When people and stories mention "the laptop" they are obviously referring to the copies of the original. The FBI has THE LAPTOP.

The repair shop guy is a known liar?

The Chinese deal that didn't happen? That big nothing burger?

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It could be a laptop, or it might not. He doesn't know and doesn't say.

Given that we have the subpoena with the laptop on it, and the account from the repair shop guy where he says he handed over the laptop to the FBI.... it seems unlikely that the laptop from the shop is what is being discussed here.

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Given that the repair guy has changed his story repeatedly, I've already pointed out that relying on his claims is not wise. But, when you are forced to rely on a known liar or your narrative falls apart, you have to do what you have to do, huh?

*Shrugs* Compared to Joe Biden, sure.

Not sure why you're pearl clutching over the suggestion that this guy is a liar when you're so comfortable calling Biden one.

And Giuliani absolutely is a liar.

The whole "Oh so you're calling me a liar" tough guy act is sad, even worse when it's being done third person.

Is it you position that the FBI has had credible evidence of Biden corruption for almost a year and not done anything because individual agents are willing to risk their careers and pensions to cover this fact up?

And now that this has become public, how has the FBI not reviewed this data in the last few days, fired the duplicitous agents and revealed the obvious corruption? I mean, most of you have it all figured out without any access to the evidence at all.

At this point it has become clear that Trump's "Best People" are actually just cultist online shills, not anyone he has actually hired.

No, I just want people to say he's lying instead of beating around the bush like you just did.

Which version of his story is true, and how do you know?

Errrr.... okay. I guess we can get back to beating around the bush you want to beat around this.

*Rolls Eyes*

In the movie Independence Day, there were woeful losers welcoming the alien invasion. Of course, they're fictional characters. They don't have to look themselves in the mirror and wonder why they exert effort propping up a fascistic, racist, sociopathic, infantile, lying imbecile.

An e-mail to Hunter Biden's partner from a top Chinese official on July 26, 2017 shows the Chinese energy company CEFC proposed a $5 million "interest-free" loan to the Biden family "based on their trust on [Biden] family[.]"

"Should CEFC keep lending more to the family?"

Less than two weeks later, on August 8, 2017, $5 million was wired from a CEFC-affiliated investment vehicle to a Delaware LLC, which spent the next year transfering nearly $4.8 million directly to Hunter Biden's firm, according to Senate investigators.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/med...port_FINAL.pdf

Interest Free Loans are illegal (violation of IRC). Loans over $100,000 require interest payment of AFR%-any amount paid. Further, that's around 70k per year interest which Bidens would have to report on their 709. Again if true, but those are the rules.

Did that come with the $5 million emails Rudy bought in the Ukraine, or did he have to pay for this service?

Biden's not THAT bad.

Looks like they got Biden dead-to-rights.
No one is going to vote for him.

Trump supporters might just as well stay at home, since their victory is assured.

No, they should vote. EVERYONE should vote.

Come November 5, nothing would make me happier than seeing a long line of flag-waving Trump supporters waiting to vote outside my neighbourhood polling station.

This part does seem like it is the case at the moment.

I wouldn't know about this. There seem like there are other possibilities. It doesn't seem impossible given that we know came out around Peter Strzok and altered/concealed evidence but it is way too early to say. I was disagreeing with you that just because Trump is President, the FBI is necessarily batting for him.

Well, if anybody is going to get fired a public announcement that they were being fired over this case would seem to conflict with not commenting on open cases. I don't know how long it would normally take for them to fire somebody, but this timescale seems very short. How long did it take for Strzok to go? Also, its one thing to find that they have sat on an investigation and another to prove that that was done for corrupt reasons.

Why are you guys giving air to this obivious pile of Russian disinformation? Two Big Dog clones are tag-team-trolling this thread just to keep the discussion going. Let it die.

This is a sceptic forum. We pedantically argue about bigfoot, prime numbers and amanda knox. If we closed off the pointless debates the forum would be closed by tomorrow.

Yeah but we don't elect Bigfoot President.

The insane, counter-intellectual trolling on this topic has bigger real world consequences.

The Johnson Report that found no wrong doing by Joe Biden. The same report that Politico found was "largely a compilation of previously public information … as well as news articles and strongly worded insinuations with little evidence to back them up."

ok, but you aren't going to vote Trump on the basis of anything I can possibly say any more than the freedom of Amanda Knox depended on anything posted to that necrotic thread. There is no more real world significance to this thread than a random bigfoot thread. Do you guys think you are making a difference in the real world here?

As he explains, the Johnson report made him aware of things that made him see what he knew in a new light.

Ah yes the "It doesn't matter that I'm anti-intellectual trolling conspiratorial nonsense because I'm just doing it on the internet" defense.

Naturally, I think you are in fact all of those things. Do you think you are making a real world difference on this thread?

Except Joe has already released his tax returns. He doesn't have a secret China Bank account like Trump does.

By definition, a secret bank account won't be on his tax returns.