No a smart lawyer wouldn’t work for Trump... a slightly brighter lawyer would have got paid up front...

Like all Trump lackeys, Giuliani has an illusion of knowledge instead of having actual knowledge.

After all, Trump has a very long and well very established history of not paying people who do work for him. And yet, in spite of such glaring facts, for some reason Giuliani believed that such a thing would never happen to him.

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1349558089964347398

And he didn't overturn the election either. So why should he get paid if Trump doesn't get to remain president?

I doubt Rudy not getting paid by Trump is really that big of a deal for him.

Rudy has other clients, and his proximity to Trump and the power of the Presidency must be a huge selling point. Working for Trump for free is a loss leader.

Anyone in federal prison right now who wants to get a pardon is probably willing to let Rudy name his price.

For the next seven days?


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It only takes a moment. I imagine Trump will be issuing many more pardons before the 20th.

Does he? He got fired from the law firm he was working for when he publicly advocated the mishandling of client money. He was also working for Trump for free for a while to spite his wife while going through a divorce.

Yeah but that suggests Rudy was at least partially competent.

Its one thing to put up a decent defense for your client and lose, its another thing to lose, after leaving messages on the wrong phone number, having multiple embarrassments (leaking brains, Borat), and possibly being on the wrong side of charges related to terrorism.

If I am a potential client, I would avoid Rudy like the plague, regardless of his association with "the president".

It depends on what you want. Nobody should hire Rudy for actual legal work.

If you want a pardon from Trump, he's probably one of the few people in a position to advocate your case (for a fee) to Trump.

Perhaps that is no longer the case, but that seems to have been the situation for a while now.

It seems to me like a big cheque to the Trump2024 re-election campaign would probably be more effective. Or maybe sign up for a membership at Mar a Lago.

I think his reputation is irredeemably damaged by his activities over the last three months. This guy was highly respected as mayor, and a genuine contender for president, and now he's a joke. I don't think he can ever recover.

Not that he's going to end up sleeping under a bridge or anything. I'm sure he has enough money cached away to live out his days comfortably, but his reputation is shot.

I wonder...

If Rudi isn't going to get paid by Trump after all, and he is as big a slimeball as his (former?) boss and would turn on him in an instant, how much would a book deal cost with Rudi to spill all the inside beans as evidence to avoid going to jail? Probably not too much.

More than his close associations with ukranian and russian mobsters? Remember Rudy needs his pardon too.

Case in point, in the Washington Post today: For those who quit Trump after riot, critics say it’s too little — and four years too late

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It's people she knows being scared for their lives that suddenly made her see the light.
All the Trump atrocities affected "the others", that was fine, that was defensible, that was "all the good we've done."

I'm quite miffed, because I swear I posted several weeks ago that I didn't know where to put my misplaced admiration. To Giuliani for having the chutzpah to charge $20k/day for his quality of legal advice, or Trump for letting convincing Giuliani that he'd get paid.

A proper solicitor would have a Client Service Agreement detailing Scope, fee or time charge, payment schedule and what disbursements are recoverable.

Perhaps such a contract exists? I don't know. :)

If so, I openly wonder what if the expressed (written) Scope of Services provided by Giuliani may be the problem. If the services agreement scope was "investigate if evidence exists that there was election fraud", however it could be proved, the real intent was "use courts to delay acceptance of defeat to allow further $207 million donation raising by Trump PAC", then that may break Client-Solicitor privileged communications, as an illegal act.

Trump should negotiate and settle with Giuliani.

You mean free pardon?

I am way out of my depth, but pardoning Giuliani for a specific crime would seem to probably implicate Trump at the same time, when the criminal act is defined in the pardon. :)

I'd be more impressed if she quit after kids in cages. I wonder if she would have quit if she didn't know anyone who worked on The Hill.

If Trump is convicted by the Senate, not even Trump survived the Trump White House.

ETA: The WH Head Usher, whom Melania brought in from the Trump Tower in NYC, was just fired.

The title of this thread makes me muse about how many very active threads are suddenly going to die this week or so. But that's OK. We'll still have the Covid-19 threads to keep us busy.

No reason not to track the Biden White House, IMO. Hopefully much less drama, though.

Such an event would be deliciously ironic.

So I sure hope that such an event does actually happen, because if it does happen, then there would be at least one positive thing that the Trump Administration has managed to do.

:)

He was fired, apparently, for doing the right thing: facilitating the changeover of WH occupancy to the Bidens. That's a sin in Donny's book.

https://twitter.com/WSJPolitics/stat...76989992751111

Well, she does serve at the President's pleasure and the pleasure of Biden is that she goes out the door.

As a political appointee, she should have tended her resignation when Biden was inaugurated. She didn't, and she has spent her time since Trump appointed her in undermining the very fabric of the agency and refusing to prosecute workplace discrimination against those she doesn't agree with. Not a huge loss here.