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eerok 30th October 2020 05:53 PM
I'm shocked, I say. Shocked.

How a fake persona laid the groundwork for a Hunter Biden conspiracy deluge [nbcnews.com]
Quote:
A 64-page document that was later disseminated by close associates of President Donald Trump appears to be the work of a fake "intelligence firm."

Venom 30th October 2020 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13275482)
And the dead end is that Christopher Balding won't reveal the name of the real author to protect him.

Ooooookayy then....

And I felt similarly about Christopher Steele's anonymous sources.

varwoche 30th October 2020 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 13275483)
And the dead end is that Christopher Balding won't reveal the name of the real author to protect him.

Ooooookayy then....

And I felt similarly about Christopher Steele's anonymous sources.
A key difference being, Steele framed his intel as raw and unverified.

Skeptic Ginger 30th October 2020 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 13275487)
A key difference being, Steele framed his intel as raw and unverified.
And Steele wasn't a Trump lackey like Giuliani.

Foggy of the Fogbow 30th October 2020 06:08 PM
Pecker Plucker Giuliani, I call him. That man seems to be a bit deranged.

Checkmite 30th October 2020 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13275482)
This story broke yesterday - and just for the sake of people who weren't aware of it and didn't have a chance to put it all together: this story is why Tucker Carlson spontaneously decided last night to so magnanimously back off of Hunter Biden even though he had just regained possession the Sooper Sekrit Documents With Devastating Revelations About The Biden Crime Family. Once NBC's expose revealed the "Hunter Biden China collusion" story to be literal fiction, Carlson risked losing a libel lawsuit if he continued to push those claims.

eerok 30th October 2020 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 13275483)
And I felt similarly about Christopher Steele's anonymous sources.
Nothing that Christopher Steele offered had this level of stink on it.

Craig4 30th October 2020 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13275118)
Back in 2011, when Joe Biden was VP, Hunter Biden's business partner Sean Conlon sent this email to Hunter:

Why would Hunter's business partner have the impression that it was okay to ask for access to Hunter's daddy to help close a potential $1 billion deal?

Surely it was just a moment of bad judgment on Conlon's part and Hunter Biden took a stand for his family's honor and good name and set his business partner straight by telling him no and to never ask again because it was unethical and inappropriate!?

Uh, no. He replied:

I know, I know, nothing to see here, move along, orange man bad.
I just don't care. I figure my chances of not getting Covid and becoming seriously ill are better under Biden than Trump. That's all I care about. If sacrificing Trump improves my chances even a little bit, he's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

wareyin 30th October 2020 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 13275483)
And the dead end is that Christopher Balding won't reveal the name of the real author to protect him.

Ooooookayy then....

And I felt similarly about Christopher Steele's anonymous sources.
After first claiming he didn't write any of the report, Balding now admits to writing some of the report. Give it another month, he'll be admitting he wrote the whole thing.

Stacyhs 30th October 2020 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Foggy of the Fogbow (Post 13275494)
Pecker Plucker Giuliani, I call him. That man seems to be a bit deranged.
He is not a bit deranged!

He's gone full deranged.

MinnesotaBrant 31st October 2020 05:39 AM
I believe that, in the moderate papers, the Biden story has died. I didn't see it on any of my aggregate web feeds; including Fox news ones.

varwoche 31st October 2020 05:44 AM
Put this thread in the How Cultist Did It Get In The Bubble? time capsule.

Gulliver Foyle 31st October 2020 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 13275487)
A key difference being, Steele framed his intel as raw and unverified.
And that Steele is a respected expert on Russia's intelligence services.

llwyd 31st October 2020 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MinnesotaBrant (Post 13275872)
I believe that, in the moderate papers, the Biden story has died. I didn't see it on any of my aggregate web feeds; including Fox news ones.
Yeah, no traction whatsoever and it's getting to be too late. I think this was the silver bullet but it didn't have the propulsion to even exit the barrel:)

Minoosh 31st October 2020 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13274861)
His answer about "not standard procedure" was actually in reference to - did he reach out to *Joe Biden* or anyone who knew the Bidens. He follows up that up saying is standard procedure to contact the person who left the laptop.

Squeegee Beckenheim 31st October 2020 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle (Post 13276014)
And that Steele is a respected expert on Russia's intelligence services.
...who had spent decades building up the contacts that he relied on for the report.

crescent 31st October 2020 10:09 AM
This October surprise was no surprise. The Dems fully expected the Republicans to try something like this and were ready to tear into it.

Such tactics don't work as well as they used to, which is good. Hopefully the political impact of conspiracism fake news and dirty tricks is waning, for a while at least.

Stacyhs 31st October 2020 11:16 AM
One thing that came out of the Trump admin is that Rudy G's reputation has been totally shredded and it was completely self-inflicted. I've seldom seen anyone self-destruct so spectacularly when drugs and/or alcohol weren't involved.

Trebuchet 31st October 2020 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13276138)
One thing that came out of the Trump admin is that Rudy G's reputation has been totally shredded and it was completely self-inflicted. I've seldom seen anyone self-destruct so spectacularly when drugs and/or alcohol weren't involved.
But at least his shirt is tucked in!

Venom 31st October 2020 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13276138)
One thing that came out of the Trump admin is that Rudy G's reputation has been totally shredded and it was completely self-inflicted. I've seldom seen anyone self-destruct so spectacularly when drugs and/or alcohol weren't involved.
You sure about that? :)

Mumbles 31st October 2020 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13275498)
Nothing that Christopher Steele offered had this level of stink on it.
Well, there's that, the fact that it wasn't meant for press release, the fact that the feds were already looking into the same allegations at the time they learned of his work through seperate sources, that a good portion was correct as far as we can tell, that Steele himself wasn't an oafish spotlight chaser like Guiliani (who, let's not forget, has repeatedly managed to shoot Dolt 45 in the foot while doing so)...

CapelDodger 31st October 2020 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold (Post 13274977)
As I said before, I don't even bother to have a laptop 'repaired" and I'm not a millionaire. I have a problem with a laptop I get it replaced. Any critical data is backed up. If there were critical data he needed to get off it, he wouldn't have abandoned it.

None of this passes the laugh test.
In terms of a comedian trying out new material, it's acing the laugh test. The whole theatre's rocking with every new line. The Tucker Carlson bit - "Hunter Biden's not running for President!" - well, sheer genius, the tears ran down my trouser-leg and no mistake. And, given the date and time, it does seem that this really is the October Surprise, not misdirection. Unless it's misdirection from the November Surprise, of course.

Firestone 31st October 2020 01:57 PM
Barr's house is being picketed by Trump supporters who believe he's not doing enough to lock up Joe Biden


https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/s...937127426?s=19

Stacyhs 31st October 2020 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13276295)
Barr's house is being picketed by Trump supporters who believe he's not doing enough to lock up Joe Biden


https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/s...937127426?s=19
I LOVE this!

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...dd3fd49f9b.jpg

Hlafordlaes 31st October 2020 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13275240)
Because they don't care about Trump or how much he hurts them as long as he hurts the Liberals more....
Dovetails with those I personally have known of the GOP persuasion. Hard to accept at first, then it's time to move on, and shudder in relief.

Craig4 1st November 2020 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Firestone (Post 13276295)
Barr's house is being picketed by Trump supporters who believe he's not doing enough to lock up Joe Biden


https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/s...937127426?s=19
Funny stuff, Trumptrash picketing Trumptrash. That's what Barr gets for being a traitor, protestors complaining he's not treasonous enough.

wareyin 1st November 2020 03:58 PM
Breaking news, Don Jr's laptop has been discovered on a local park bench. No word on how many photos of him snorting coke are on it yet. https://target.scene7.com/is/image/T...lt=80&fmt=webp

Gulliver Foyle 2nd November 2020 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13276138)
One thing that came out of the Trump admin is that Rudy G's reputation has been totally shredded and it was completely self-inflicted. I've seldom seen anyone self-destruct so spectacularly when drugs and/or alcohol weren't involved.
How do you know they weren't?

JoeMorgue 2nd November 2020 06:56 AM
Hmmmm there's a giant pile of old laptops here at work.

I wonder how many of them are Hunter Biden's?

Darat 2nd November 2020 06:57 AM
Saw that the problem of needing a password was tackled by claiming he used a "weak" password... Apple user accounts can't be set with "weak" passwords...

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT20...ven%20stronger.

.....

Apple policy requires you to use strong passwords for your Apple ID.*Your password must have eight or more characters and include upper and lowercase letters, and at least one number. You can also include extra characters and punctuation marks to make your password even stronger.*Apple also uses other password rules to make sure your password isn't easy to*guess.

.....

Darat 2nd November 2020 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13277777)
Hmmmm there's a giant pile of old laptops here at work.

I wonder how many of them are Hunter Biden's?
Going by the number he has lost I'd say 50/50. I've a couple old ones hanging around, better check them.

dasmiller 2nd November 2020 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13277777)
Hmmmm there's a giant pile of old laptops here at work.

I wonder how many of them are Hunter Biden's?
There's an easy way to test. First, find a sticker from some old liberal or Democrat event and stick it on the laptop in some prominent place. Then, take an old hard drive and load it with compromising stuff you find on the internet. Install that drive in the laptop. Finally, carefully search the laptop for a sticker from some old liberal or Democrat event. If you find such a sticker in a prominent place, then the laptop originally belonged to Hunter Biden!

I Am The Scum 2nd November 2020 10:42 AM
Next, on Antique Road Show: "Now what we have here is actually an authentic, original, Hunter Biden laptop. Only 5 of these were ever made."

JoeMorgue 2nd November 2020 10:44 AM
I have reason to believe that the secret Pizza Parlor Sex Dungeon Wayfair takeover plans on a CD left in the single Super Nintendo Playstation CD-ROM add-on prototype.

timhau 2nd November 2020 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13277777)
Hmmmm there's a giant pile of old laptops here at work.

I wonder how many of them are Hunter Biden's?
They all are, unless you can prove they're not. Furthermore, as long as you can't open them, they will have video clips of Hunter doing PCP while taking bribes from China, the Ukraine, and Iran in between having sex with aborted fetuses.

varwoche 2nd November 2020 11:25 AM
As the true believers drop off one by one, all 16 or 17 of them, should this be interpreted as an acknowledgement of embarrassment at having hitched their horses to such outlandish drivel?

Rhetorical.

Firestone 2nd November 2020 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 13278169)
As the true believers drop off one by one, all 16 or 17 of them, should this be interpreted as an acknowledgement of embarrassment at having hitched their horses to such outlandish drivel?

Rhetorical.
Even Trump seems to drop off.

Trump seems to acknowledge that the Hunter Biden story isn’t having the desired impact, saying “outside of what I say, it is indeed fading away, because you can’t have a scandal nobody writes about.”

https://twitter.com/RosieGray/status...676509696?s=19

JoeMorgue 2nd November 2020 11:34 AM
They'll be back and suddenly talkative again when someone says something "dramatic" or something that can be nitpicked that isn't relevant.

Stacyhs 2nd November 2020 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle (Post 13277774)
How do you know they weren't?
I've never heard that Rudy has a problem with drugs or alcohol so I'm not going to assume he does. I'm going to go on his past behavior of being a Trump toadie and particularly his actions during the impeachment.

xjx388 2nd November 2020 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13277782)
Saw that the problem of needing a password was tackled by claiming he used a "weak" password... Apple user accounts can't be set with "weak" passwords...

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT20...ven%20stronger.

.....

Apple policy requires you to use strong passwords for your Apple ID.*Your password must have eight or more characters and include upper and lowercase letters, and at least one number. You can also include extra characters and punctuation marks to make your password even stronger.*Apple also uses other password rules to make sure your password isn't easy to*guess.

.....
That's to access an icloud account. The password you use to actually access the physical laptop doesn't need to be so strong.

kookbreaker 2nd November 2020 12:42 PM
"So I parked my car in a not-so great neighborhood. I walked a couple of blocks away and realized "Oh crap! I left my Hunter Biden laptop sitting out open on the front seat!

I turned around and raced back to my car hoping I'd make it before anyone saw it out!

When I got back to my car, what did I find? Two more Hunter Biden laptops in the back seat!"

/oldjoke

dmaker 2nd November 2020 02:03 PM
My dishwasher stopped working yesterday. Repair person came today and found that it was clogged with a Hunter Biden laptop. I thought the exterminator had gotten rid of them all last week. Sheesh.

Roger Ramjets 2nd November 2020 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by xjx388 (Post 13278284)
The password you use to actually access the physical laptop doesn't need to be so strong.
How strong does it need to be? (I don't have a Mac, and could not find any information on this via Google).

JoeMorgue 2nd November 2020 02:11 PM
The far future.

The Hunter Biden laptops have taken over.

The mountains, the sky, the sea... all nothing but Hunter Biden laptops.

You hug your wife for comfort... she collapses into a pile of Hunter Biden laptops in your arms.

You open your mouth to scream but you have no mouth... for you are a Hunter Biden laptop.

dmaker 2nd November 2020 02:22 PM
All your Hunter Biden laptops are belong to us.

Checkmite 2nd November 2020 03:05 PM
This is the city: Los Angeles, California. Nearly three million Hunter Biden laptops have been found here...

xjx388 2nd November 2020 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets (Post 13278403)
How strong does it need to be? (I don't have a Mac, and could not find any information on this via Google).
I've only ever owned Macs and it has never rejected any password I've given it no matter how short or "easy" it is to guess. I just changed my password on the laptop to "Hello" and it accepted it no problem, not even a warning.

Now I do use a very complex and hard to guess password just for general computer hygene. If this laptop fell into the wrong hands . . .



Well, they'd be bored out of their minds, but still.

dirtywick 2nd November 2020 04:57 PM
If it was a foundation business laptop the IT department probably had stricter than default password protection. But since it’s a made up laptop it could literally be anything.

KDLarsen 2nd November 2020 09:15 PM
Good news everyone, Rudy has just remembered that the laptop given to the FBI wasn't actually given to them by John Paul Ringo George. No siree, it was his brother out in Albuquerque who gave it to them first, before John Paul III gave it to them. However that is supposed to work...

TheL8Elvis 3rd November 2020 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue (Post 13278190)
They'll be back and suddenly talkative again when someone says something "dramatic" or something that can be nitpicked that isn't relevant.
Sadly, I don't believe this thread/topic will die with a trump election loss.

This could be a talking point for the next four + years...


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