Oh, no, that would be absurd. Only a few of the video angles had to be ready on 9/11. The non-live-broadcast ones could be faked later and gradually put online. Much more leisurely.

Of course they did have to prepare many versions of the live shots as there was no way to predict there would be a NW wind that day and they would need to make the CGI plane appear shadowed by the CGI smoke trail. And yes, they did have to somehow ensure there were no witnesses to these spectacular events happening in one of the world's busiest cities and somehow find and suppress all real photos and videos taken by locals and tourists alike. And make plane-shaped holes with ultraprecision missiles which have never existed and leave no trace. But that's just detail. All of these things put together are clearly not so utterly impossible as yankee451 being wrong about his assessment of a grainy photo. That would just be crazy.

FTFY

100%.... I'll just drop this here again as a reminder for yankee451 and for any lurkers who happen to come along...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ye6lsop9n...rlay.gif?raw=1

I'm just looking at that and thinking what the hell is in yankee's head?

According to him, two cruise missiles came in from right and left at oblique angles to create the wing impacts.

If true, all aerodynamic control would be lost the moment the first wingtip of a cruise missile (left or right wing) contacted the building. Thus there would be no way to determine exactly where the detonation would happen.

Just take the supposed missile from the left side. The moment it's left wingtip contacts the building, it is uncontrolled. Yet Yankee would have us believe it to a hard 90 degree turn and detonated in exactly the right place to replicate the illusion of the 767 left engine.

This is beyond absurd.

With a missile?

Actually - guaranteed! :D

Not to mention, assuming this is the same missile supposed to have caused the damage yankee451 alleges can be seen in the infamous blurry photo, that it miraculously passed through a hole too small for it, without either damaging itself or the columns, and then resumed its designated path.
A truly special theory, that one.

I assume, then, that the wings would have broken off on entry.
yankee451 has posited dozens of missiles. It is surprising, therefore, that he has been unable to present a single fragment of these wings, either on film or in reality, to show us.
Oh, wait. It actually isn't that surprising, is it? :D

The wings and the rest of airframe would have shattered as they came into contact with the side of the building which means that the right wing would be the last part of it to survive.

The warhead would have penetrated the column (or bounced off depending on how exactly it hit the columns).

If it hit at an angle of 15 degrees and penetrated then I assume it would continue on into the building at the same heading.

Yankee451 has it turn parallel to the building and continue going through the flanges of the other columns. I am not sure how it is supposed to do that.

Could this be the water jet canard?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...qsHPngSRBM0uhY

FTFY

Projection - look it up

Paranoia - look it up

You don't do math and physics, you are not equipped to make this determination, and anything technical on 9/11.

Where is the proof? You make up a fantasy of missiles and ignore the murder of thousand of your fellow citizens by spreading lies.

Why do you hate the thousands who were murdered by UBL's buddies on 9/11? Hate, ignorance or spite. What great failure could motivate someone to spread the dumbest fantasy of missiles mocking the murder of thousands of their fellow Americans?

No need for fixing, 'canard' means 'duck'

Well, I thought your post was funny!

In what language? locale?

It's the french word for duck.

It's also:


Now I don't think the 767-200 has any but perhaps Rodan or Mothra?

All kinds of fun today, people!

Your paraphrasing skills are lacking, as is your understanding of how the jet wing changed direction and missed the cladding that covered the steel column.

Nope. Your mad proposal REQUIRES that the supposed missiles performed exactly those mad maneuvers.

Frankly, your claims of magic missiles are idiotic.

What paraphrasing? You are suggesting the damage was somehow caused by a cruise missile, yes? You are suggesting that the cruise missile hit at an angle of approximately 15 degrees to the building, yes?

We can see the damage and can see that if a warhead struck at 15 degrees (as you suggested earlier) then it would have to somehow turn parallel to the building to cause the rest of that damage.
It didn't miss the cladding, it hit it, hence the big hole in the front of it, where the wing hit. Hence the only surviving part is at the back, the furthest from where the wing impacted.

How do you account for the fact that the front of the cladding has been punched out?

failed to prove videos are fake, gish gallop of off topic woo continues
 

Are you sure, do you have evidence? Based on the idiotic missile fantasy, I doubt your skill to make this assessment. When will you realize you failed to prove videos were fake? Never.


Oops, you proved you have no clue how the wing was constructed, and why some of the wing has less mass as it moves to the fiberglass/composite tip. But go ahead, mock the murder of thousands of your fellow Americans with lies dumber than dirt, and failing to prove the videos are fake. (fellow Americans, are you an American, because the disinformation you are spreading is more like a russian troll misleading Americans)

When you talk about "skills", "understanding" as you claim missiles caused the damage and no one was killed on 9/11, is undefined fantasy woo.

Well if he has claimed at any point that the damage was done by a JDAM, then HE is the one who doesn't have a clue what he is on about.

JDAM is not a missile... its not even a bomb; its an ordinance guidance system with inertial navigation, a GPS system, a bolt on tail section with control surfaces and an aerodynamic strake kit.

JDAM is designed to turn unguided bombs into guided bombs i.e. turn "dumb" bombs into "smart" bombs.

Run, run, little rabbit.

Sure, but yankee is proposing that all of them can perform physically impossible feats of acrobatics.

Or some of them.

Or one of them.

Or who the hell knows where this insane idea ends up?

I don't. I have no clear conception of yankee's proposal beyond a claim of impossible projectiles performing impossible maneuvers based on an impossible conspiracy.

There is no making sense of it.

Point of order! That is not Rodan.

Not to cast aspersions on your very plausible Rodan theory, but has anyone considered Pazuzu, a nemesis of UltraMan? Seems like he could be counted among the suspects. Added bonus - he shoots energy beams that dustifies ****, a no-planer favorite.

Just spitballing, I suppose.

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I AGREE

Wrong shape!

Pazuzu was also a nemesis in Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. But that is another story. :)

Best 4 minutes of my day, right there. But I don't think he could cover the ground between NYC, DC and PA in the time given. Not ruling him out, as that video was pure awesome.

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Quack! :boxedin:

I'm still not clear who "they" are and why "they" would fake the 9/11 videos.

Neither are those who think things were faked.

If any of you had anything new to add, that hasn't already been swatted down like a fly, I might have something new to reply with. Until then, scroll back.

You never explained how they predicted the wind.

Quit dodging the Rodan theory. He is slightly bigger than a fly. Un-swattable.

Also, any justification you have for a missile doing what a missile can not do, wouldn't go amiss. Like how you know it was a missile, despite any functionable knowledge on missiles or related tech.

You know nothing, but claim perfect knowledge.

How do we know the plane shaped holes weren't laboriously created by hand, hidden under tarpaulins with a picture of the undamaged tower wall painted on them?

At the right moment, you just have to drop the tarpaulins. In fact if you make them from something flammable enough, you just have to touch them off and they'll be consumed in a flash and a puff of smoke.

After that you just need to fire tons of burning jet fuel out of the other side of the building at high velocity but somehow arrange for the building itself to sway towards that side rather than away from it, release a lot of doctored videos, somehow find and suppress every video and photo which shows the truth, somehow find and silence every eyewitness, fake the radar data, fake all records of the flights and crews and passengers, plant the aircraft debris...

Okay I'm not saying it would be easy, but is there any part of this which is any more absurd than yankee's proposing non-existent missiles performed ultra-precision flying which no known missile can do while not being seen by anyone?

Only in your imagination. You haven't answered questions on the how "they" did it whomever the "they" were.

"swatted down like a fly". Yeah, that's hilarious. The only resemblance to flies here is yankee spinning around on his back kicking his legs around break-dancer style like he's been sprayed with Raid!

Yankee has singularly failed to answer ANY of the questions put to him by Cosmic Yak, Wowbagger, Sabretooth, Steve or waypastvne - and that's just from the last three pages). He has also failed to answer any of my questions, especially this one.

I know why you are running away from this, because you do not have a viable answer.

You are only expert in only one thing... pigeon chess; you're a legend, but only in your own mind.

Let the thread die. Yankee will crank up again if it does. He merely craves the oxygen of attention. For now, he is content that people are even replying to his nonsense ideas. Leave it to die. All that will happen is the unevidenced claims will become more outrageous.

And then we will all know the nature of the claims. Everyone. Undeniably.

All you have to do is link to the posts in which you answered my questions.
That's it.
Simples.
And yet......