The War on Non-Christmas
There is no such thing as a war on Christmas.
There is, however, a war on it not being Christmas 24/7, as evidenced by the fact I am already seeing lights, Christmas displays, advertisements, and "don't wait for black Friday" posters. There is a war, and the war is to extend Christmas to January 2. Enough, already. I'm tempted to say "boycott Christmas", but that's socially unacceptable. |
You can have a lump of coal as your present.
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Er, there are twelve days of Christmas: it ends on the 5th of January.
I'm all in favour of of everyone celebrating for just under two weeks, my only quibble being that winter hasn't really set in by the end of December. It perhaps ought to be a month/six-weeks later, when people are really miserable and need a good cheering-up. |
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Costco in my area had Christmas stuff out long before they had their Halloween stuff on sale. Late September, early October, for Christmas trees (fake), decorations, and toys.
Which is why I truly hate Christmas. When I was young it was because the day just didn't live up to all the hype, now it is because the entire holiday paints such a depressing picture of the state of society and humanity. |
Walmart is now starting "Black Friday" on Thanksgiving at 8pm and staying open all night..
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Christmas is just a marketing scheme there to get people to buy stuff that they normally wouldn't for people that don't need it.
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Last week at work while at our morning coffee break I recommended that we should alternate winter festivals every year.
One year would be Christmas, the next Dongzhi, then Obon, then the Mars festival, Sol Invictus next, Kwanzaa, Makahiki, a Druidic solstice festival, even Hanukkah. Tough crowd, I didn't get any agreement, just some giggling from my coworker who was raised Jehovah Witness. The rest just want to see large ticket items go on deep discount. Plus Xmas sales account for 40-60 percent of annual sales at a large portion of American retail establishments. |
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There's no more virulently atheist ass on the planet than me, but I already have the first three stations on my car radio programmed to the three stations in range broadcasting Christmas songs 24 hours a day already.
I stumbled across one, programmed it in, and then saw on the news that night that the station had started just that day. |
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Skeptics can set up their own displays. |
I ******* hate Christmas. There are a veriety of reasons, not the least of which is the superficial "joy" and the false spirit of giving. I prefer American Thanksgiving. I like my family and friends, and I love a good meal with a large group. Gift giving is a giant waste of money. People buy me crap I don't want and never would buy for myself, and I buy crap for people that they don't want or need. I'd rather have them over for a drink and a meal. This is why I treat Christmas like a sequel to Thanksgiving. I have a meal with friends and family. I could give two ****s about the rest of the **** that goes along with it.
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Our store received and had to put out for sale Christmas ribbon... on August 28th.
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I don't agree with this. Costco for one goes both in early and out early for shopping seasons. Most Christmas items are out of Costco a couple of weeks before Christmas. The idea is for people to buy items FOR Christmas when it does come. Not to display Christmas in its season. Is everyone suppose to wait until the week before Christmas to run out and buy all the decorations and presents? Can you imagine how unbearable the stores would all be? Why is it so wrong to prepare for things ahead of time. Now if Costco was playing Christmas music and decorating the actual warehouse at the same time I would agree with you. That would be extending the season way to early, not just offering goods for people to buy in preparation. That's not what they're doing though. |
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I completely agree. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday for the reasons you give. Christmas has also been better since the family cut down on gift giving. Now we draw one family member's name for a gift exchange. The gift giving stress has been shredded and the holiday is now centered on the more important things. |
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The adults in our family give donations to non-profits in the name of of other family members. (I love Heifer International Seva.)
) The children still receive tangible gifts from the adults. |
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Christmas imperialism. :p |
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Which would indeed overlap the lot, as I intended to suggest. |
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And for the rest of your comment, you betcha I'm in agreement, although the last is a sad truth. |
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Its not a benign meme. Using war as a metaphor invokes all the strategies, concepts and divisiveness of real war. Doing this warps a more meaningful discussion of whatever the issue is. I'm disappointed that you would succumb to this type of language. Well, the other possibility is that I'm getting all huffy over a tongue-in-cheek OP. If so, start a war on me. :) |
I for one really like Chrismas lights and plan on putting them up pretty soon. I used to be bothered, but by now I'm used to see Christmas decorations up by the time Halloween has rolled around.
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I agree with that times a million. War is serious. Leave the word war for the real thing. |
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This had already occurred by about 1708. Christmas has moved back through the year so far it has actually been lapped. What you will be forced to celebrate this December is in fact Christmas 2013. |
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But I agree, the original tradition was food and some small gifts. But at some point the Military Industrial Complex got involved. :D |
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