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a_unique_person 3rd April 2018 05:17 PM

Pruitt? Who's Pruitt?

quadraginta 3rd April 2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12242826)
Pruitt? Who's Pruitt?


Coffee boy.

Trebuchet 3rd April 2018 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12242326)
Apparently Pruitt has gone from being a Trump favorite to being on the verge of being removed from office in less then two weeks.

NOTHING makes you as much as an outcast in the Trump administration as making Trump look bad. Two weeks ago, it looked like he'd be replacing Jefferson (Davis) Sessions about now.

DRAIN THE SWAMP!

CapelDodger 3rd April 2018 06:46 PM

Rosentein's name has come up.

Memo shows Mueller explicitly tasked with Manafort-Russia collusion claims
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tigation-scope

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The memo, which remains redacted in parts, said that Mueller was empowered to investigate allegations that Manafort “committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials” to interfere with the presidential election.

None of the charges Manafort faces alleges coordination with the Kremlin, and Manafort’s attorneys had used that point to argue that Mueller exceeded his authority by accusing him of financial crimes and acting as an unregistered foreign agent on behalf of Ukrainian interests.

But Monday’s filing appears to undercut that argument. In addition to authorizing the Russia collusion investigation of Manafort, Rosenstein also authorized Mueller to investigate any crimes related to payments Manafort received from the Ukrainian government under former president Viktor Yanukovych.
It appears that Rosenstein, by explicitly casting the net so wide, was out to get Manafort, and why would he want to do that if not to get Trump himself through Manafort? It's so Deep State it's positively abyssal.

Rosenstein next.

CapelDodger 3rd April 2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12242826)
Pruitt? Who's Pruitt?

Don't think I ever met the man. Pruitt? Odd name, I'm sure I'd have remembered it. What is that, a Baltic name? Don't recall ever meeting any Balic people.

I met some Balkan people earlier, fine people, very sound on the Fake Media issue.

Norman Alexander 5th April 2018 06:58 PM

Or could it be Mike Cohen, the suck-up but dispensable lawyer being thrown to the wolves?

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In his first public comments on the allegations, he was asked by reporters on Air Force One if he knew about the payment, and Trump said “No”. When was asked why Cohen made the payment, Trump said: “You’ll have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael is my attorney. You’ll have to ask Michael.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...payment-denial

Craig4 6th April 2018 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12246185)
Or could it be Mike Cohen, the suck-up but dispensable lawyer being thrown to the wolves?



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...payment-denial

Two points, the denial came from Trump so he knew about the payment. If we go through the motions of believing Trump, Cohen is in some trouble for campaign finance law violations.

Crossbow 6th April 2018 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12246185)
Or could it be Mike Cohen, the suck-up but dispensable lawyer being thrown to the wolves?



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...payment-denial

I was wondering about the same thing.

After all, Trump just threw Michael Cohen (his own lawyer) under the bus at a time when Trump is having a difficult time retaining his own law team in order to deal with the Muller investigation.

I guess Trump really does hate lawyers even when he sorely needs lawyers.

alfaniner 6th April 2018 06:25 AM

Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kellyyyyyyy!
CNN has taken to calling the end of the week "Firing Friday", or "FireDay".

acbytesla 6th April 2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12246537)
Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kellyyyyyyy!
CNN has taken to calling the end of the week "Firing Friday", or "FireDay".

I think Pruitt is next up in the batter's box or the on deck circle. Did you see the way Fox News tore into him?

alfaniner 6th April 2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 12246932)
I think Pruitt is next up in the batter's box or the on deck circle. Did you see the way Fox News tore into him?

Just this week The PDJT talked about replacing Kelly with Pruitt, so Pruitt my be one rung higher.

acbytesla 6th April 2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12246962)
Just this week The PDJT talked about replacing Kelly with Pruitt, so Pruitt my be one rung higher.

So they're both gone?

Craig4 6th April 2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 12246962)
Just this week The PDJT talked about replacing Kelly with Pruitt, so Pruitt my be one rung higher.

And the chief of staff doesn't have to get confirmed by the Senate.

dudalb 6th April 2018 02:01 PM

I think even Donnie knows that after the lastest scandals Pruitt would not stand a chance of being approved as AG,so Chief of Staff is a possibility.Thing is, in any other administration Pruitt would have been gone by now.

alfaniner 6th April 2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12247299)
Thing is, in any other administration Pruitt would have been gone by now.

In any other administration Trump would have been gone by now.
:p

varwoche 7th April 2018 07:41 AM

The landlords were unable to get Pruitt out of the condo, so they changed the locks. <laughing dog goes here>

Trebuchet 7th April 2018 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12247299)
I think even Donnie knows that after the lastest scandals Pruitt would not stand a chance of being approved as AG,so Chief of Staff is a possibility.Thing is, in any other administration Pruitt would have been gone by now.

I think I saw somewhere that he wouldn't have to be approved for AG because he was already approved for EPA and can move to another cabinet-level position without further Senate action. Can anyone verify?

Stacko 7th April 2018 08:26 AM

What is Scott Pruitt afraid of?

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Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt’s concern with his safety came at a steep cost to taxpayers as his swollen security detail blew through overtime budgets and at times diverted officers away from investigating environmental crimes.

Altogether, the agency spent millions of dollars for a 20-member full-time detail that is more than three times the size of his predecessor’s part-time security contingent.

New details in Pruitt’s expansive spending for security and travel emerged from agency sources and documents reviewed by The Associated Press. They come as the embattled EPA leader fends off allegations of profligate spending and ethical missteps that have imperiled his job.

Shortly after arriving in Washington, Pruitt demoted the career staff member heading his security detail and replaced him with EPA Senior Special Agent Pasquale “Nino” Perrotta, a former Secret Service agent who operates a private security company.

An EPA official with direct knowledge of Pruitt’s security spending says Perrotta oversaw a rapid expansion of the EPA chief’s security detail to accommodate guarding him day and night, even on family vacations and when Pruitt was home in Oklahoma. The EPA official spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.
Should I be afraid of it too?

Trebuchet 7th April 2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacko (Post 12248033)
What is Scott Pruitt afraid of?



Should I be afraid of it too?

He's worried about radical treehugging terrorists, of course. Environmentalists = terrorists has been a right wing meme for quite a while now.

phiwum 7th April 2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12248099)
He's worried about radical treehugging terrorists, of course. Environmentalists = terrorists has been a right wing meme for quite a while now.

I am familiar with examples of animal rights terrorism, but I'm drawing a blank on environmental terrorism. There must be some, since most movements have extremists. Anyone?

I don't count the Unabomber.

d4m10n 7th April 2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12248174)
I am familiar with examples of animal rights terrorism, but I'm drawing a blank on environmental terrorism. There must be some, since most movements have extremists. Anyone?

I don't count the Unabomber.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-terrorism

phiwum 7th April 2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12248179)

Thank you, coulda found that my damn self, were I clever.

Trebuchet 7th April 2018 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12248174)
I don't count the Unabomber.

He's actually listed in the Wiki article. My point, however, is that it's been popular among some sectors of the far right to label ALL environmentalists as terrorists.

quadraginta 7th April 2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12248402)
He's actually listed in the Wiki article. My point, however, is that it's been popular among some sectors of the far right to label ALL environmentalists as terrorists.


In his particular case one could almost wish he was right.

CORed 9th April 2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by phiwum (Post 12248174)
I am familiar with examples of animal rights terrorism, but I'm drawing a blank on environmental terrorism. There must be some, since most movements have extremists. Anyone?

I don't count the Unabomber.

Well, there was the Monkeywrench Gang, but they were fictitious.

jimbob 9th April 2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CORed (Post 12250345)
Well, there was the Monkeywrench Gang, but they were fictitious.

Were they Zamibians involved in the bowling green massacre protesting against the environmental damage of covfee plantations?

Dr. Keith 9th April 2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 12250475)
Were they Zamibians involved in the bowling green massacre protesting against the environmental damage of covfee plantations?

No.

Norman Alexander 9th April 2018 10:12 PM

Cohen's place has been dawn-raided on behalf of Mueller. Donny gets all hot and bothered about "national security" or somesuch. Cohen is obviously sinking deeper. How long before Donny cuts the rope?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ller-documents

a_unique_person 10th April 2018 01:20 AM

Too soon to pick Trump?

TheSupermeerkat 10th April 2018 03:17 AM

White House Survivor
 
This made me giggle

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...77e85b0e0b.jpg

TheL8Elvis 10th April 2018 07:21 AM

JUST IN: White House Homeland Security Adviser Tom Bossert has resigned, Press Sec. Sarah Sanders says.

"President Trump thanks him for his patriotic service and wishes him well.”

Quite the dark horse candidate for the next WH .... un-survivor. :)

The Great Zaganza 10th April 2018 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis (Post 12251373)
JUST IN: White House Homeland Security Adviser Tom Bossert has resigned, Press Sec. Sarah Sanders says.

"President Trump thanks him for his patriotic service and wishes him well.”

Quite the dark horse candidate for the next WH .... un-survivor. :)

any indication why?
Did Trump just fish his name out of a bowl because he desperately needed to fire someone to make himself feel better?

Worm 10th April 2018 07:47 AM

Bloomberg is reporting that he was asked to resign by John Bolton.

The Great Zaganza 10th April 2018 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Worm (Post 12251408)
Bloomberg is reporting that he was asked to resign by John Bolton.

This is worrisome.
Bolton has a reputation for getting rid of everyone who disagrees with him.

Norman Alexander 10th April 2018 01:39 PM

And another one off the island - Michael Anton, national security spokesman. Courtesy of Bolton as well.

Mark F 10th April 2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12251415)
This is worrisome.
Bolton has a reputation for getting rid of everyone who disagrees with him.

Bolton likes to be surrounded by yes men.
Trump likes to be surrounded by yes men.

2 peas in a pod.

pgwenthold 10th April 2018 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark F (Post 12251971)
Bolton likes to be surrounded by yes men.
Trump likes to be surrounded by yes men.

2 peas in a pod.

At some point, will someone remind Bolton that Trump made a big deal (at least in the campaign) about how he was opposed to the war in Iraq?

Maybe Bolton will fire him for his lack of loyalty?

Norman Alexander 10th April 2018 07:28 PM

Rumblings over at Justice again. Rosenstein and Sessions in the cross-hairs again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ler/ar-AAvJjn3

d4m10n 11th April 2018 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12252284)
Rumblings over at Justice again. Rosenstein and Sessions in the cross-hairs again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ler/ar-AAvJjn3

Quote:

Such an action could potentially further Trump's goal of trying to put greater limits on special counsel Robert Mueller.
"[T]rying to put greater limits" on the special counsel is such a polite way of saying "obstructing justice" in the only federal criminal investigation into election meddling by foreign agents and their domestic collaborators.

dudalb 11th April 2018 11:54 AM

It does not count since Trump can't fire him, but some kind of honorable mention needs to be given to Paul Ryan,since I have a feeling that dealing with Trump is a major reason he is abandoning ship...


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