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Norman Alexander 15th November 2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12893769)
I only met him once or twice; he just got the covfefe.

...never met the guy in my life.

Segnosaur 18th November 2019 11:09 AM

Did anyone have any bets about Pompeo being the next to leave?

From: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...roles-n1082716
Trump has fumed for weeks that Pompeo is responsible for hiring State Department officials whose congressional testimony threatens to bring down his presidency... The president confronted Pompeo about the officials — and what he believed was a lackluster effort by the secretary of state to block their testimony...

Apparently Pompeo is also disliked by members of the state department, although I'm sure Trump doesn't really care about that.

Trebuchet 18th November 2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 12896017)

Apparently Pompeo is also disliked by members of the state department, although I'm sure Trump doesn't really care about that.

In the Trumpiverse, being disliked by career diplomats -- in fact any career federal employee -- is an asset. Deep state, and all that.

The Don 19th November 2019 03:25 AM

Mina Chang, a State Department official has resigned amid allegations that she lied on her CV (resume) and faked a Time cover:

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NBC News reported last week that Ms Chang had inflated her educational achievements and exaggerated the scope of her non-profit work.

It said that an NBC News investigation had found that Ms Chang:
  • Created a fake Time magazine cover with her face on it
  • Claimed a non-existent degree from the University of Hawaii
  • Invented a role on a United Nations panel
  • Claimed to have addressed both the Democratic and the Republican national conventions

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50471352

She denies the allegations and claims that the State Department is out to get her. She seems like the ideal candidate for the Trump Administration, a liar who faked a Time cover and who simply denies evidence which is demonstrably there.

More of the very best people I guess :rolleyes:

Norman Alexander 19th November 2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12896829)
Mina Chang, a State Department official has resigned amid allegations that she lied on her CV (resume) and faked a Time cover:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50471352

She denies the allegations and claims that the State Department is out to get her. She seems like the ideal candidate for the Trump Administration, a liar who faked a Time cover and who simply denies evidence which is demonstrably there.

More of the very best people I guess :rolleyes:

Of course, it was the vetting at the job application that found her out.

...oh wait.
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...the scandal has raised questions about the Trump administration's vetting process.
No it hasn't. It has actually confirmed them. If you lie and cheat at least superficially well and are a half-decent looking woman* then you stand a good chance of working in a highly responsible government position which you are entirely unqualified to be in.
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... before the row she was being considered for a more important government position managing a budget of more than $1bn.
*No, I have no idea how Betsy DeVoss got her job. Must have been the money.

Craig4 19th November 2019 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12896829)
Mina Chang, a State Department official has resigned amid allegations that she lied on her CV (resume) and faked a Time cover:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50471352

She denies the allegations and claims that the State Department is out to get her.

Well, if the whole world is out to get out you, it's probably onto something. The problem may not be with the whole world.

Minoosh 20th November 2019 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12871688)
She's looking a LOT older... Maybe Donny could replace her with a younger version now?

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12897844)
*No, I have no idea how Betsy DeVoss got her job. Must have been the money.

Can't we criticize them on their merits or lack thereof without bringing age and looks into the discussion?

The Don 20th November 2019 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 12897974)
Can't we criticize them on their merits or lack thereof without bringing age and looks into the discussion?

We can, but then again youth and prettiness do seem to be important (primary ? sole ?) criteria when it comes to the selection of female members of the administration.

There are exceptions, but most female staffers seem to fit a particular template and when their qualifications are examined in detail they do seem to be un(der)qualified and/or have lied about their fitness for the posts.

Norman Alexander 20th November 2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 12897974)
Can't we criticize them on their merits or lack thereof without bringing age and looks into the discussion?

Personally, I agree. But...

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12897977)
We can, but then again youth and prettiness do seem to be important (primary ? sole ?) criteria when it comes to the selection of female members of the administration.

There are exceptions, but most female staffers seem to fit a particular template and when their qualifications are examined in detail they do seem to be un(der)qualified and/or have lied about their fitness for the posts.

Those are the qualifications the Trump team value in a woman applicant - looks and/or money.

Trebuchet 20th November 2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12897977)
We can, but then again youth and prettiness do seem to be important (primary ? sole ?) criteria when it comes to the selection of female members of the administration.

There are exceptions, but most female staffers seem to fit a particular template and when their qualifications are examined in detail they do seem to be un(der)qualified and/or have lied about their fitness for the posts.

And then there's Fox News.

dudalb 20th November 2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12898610)
And then there's Fox News.

And that story coming soon to a movie theater near you......

d4m10n 20th November 2019 02:18 PM

Moving my chips to the serving EU Ambassador.

a_unique_person 20th November 2019 05:20 PM

Isn't it time for a new press secretary?

alfaniner 20th November 2019 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12898964)
And that story coming soon to a movie theater near you......

A friend of mine is an extra in that. I don't know if he has any lines.

PhantomWolf 20th November 2019 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12899197)
Isn't it time for a new press secretary?

Probably not, the current one is hiding in her office and refusing to come out.

Stacyhs 21st November 2019 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf (Post 12899450)
Probably not, the current one is hiding in her office and refusing to come out.

Stephanie Grisham is the worst PS so far. She makes Sanders look almost honest.

alfaniner 21st November 2019 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 12899483)
Stephanie Grisham is the worst PS so far. She makes Sanders look almost honest.

I wouldn't even know. I always saw Sanders and Spicer and even Mooch, but I couldn't pick this one out of a lineup.

dudalb 21st November 2019 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 12899483)
Stephanie Grisham is the worst PS so far. She makes Sanders look almost honest.

Anybody who is a good Public Relatations professional would run away like hell if someone offered them the WH Press Secretary Job. You would be working for the Boss From Hell and probably destroy your professional reputation as well.

d4m10n 21st November 2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12900404)
You would be working for the Boss From Hell and probably destroy your professional reputation as well.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1173754090070925313

dudalb 21st November 2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12900414)

Thanks for posting that and giving me nightmares for the next few nights.
Never would have caught Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly in that outfit.

d4m10n 21st November 2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12900499)
Thanks for posting that and giving me nightmares for the next few nights.

Whenever I feel guilty for sleeping well at night, I try to remember those we've lost throughout this thread and how they somehow managed to land on their feet.

Trebuchet 21st November 2019 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 12899483)
Stephanie Grisham is the worst PS so far. She makes Sanders look almost honest.

That's why she'll be there for the duration. She's exactly what Trump wants.
ETA: I had to look her up on Wikipedia. The article isn't kind to her.

Babbylonian 21st November 2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12900531)
That's why she'll be there for the duration. She's exactly what Trump wants.

A whore who will say anything she's paid to say?

d4m10n 21st November 2019 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 12900545)
A whore who will say anything she's paid to say?

Hey now, whoring is honest work.

Babbylonian 21st November 2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12900549)
Hey now, whoring is honest work.

Traditional whores are paid by their clients for their lies. In this case, the whore is being paid American tax money for lies most of us don't want.

d4m10n 21st November 2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Babbylonian (Post 12900560)
Traditional whores are paid by their clients for their lies.

At the risk of serious digression, where's the lie? Even the "gf experience" is known to be simulacrum. May as well accuse an actress for coming across as genuinely in character.

Stacyhs 21st November 2019 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12900499)
Thanks for posting that and giving me nightmares for the next few nights.
Never would have caught Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly in that outfit.

Hell, Carmen Miranda wouldn't have been caught wearing that outfit.

Stacyhs 21st November 2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12900531)
That's why she'll be there for the duration. She's exactly what Trump wants.
ETA: I had to look her up on Wikipedia. The article isn't kind to her.

So fired twice for unethical behavior, arrested twice for DUI and had a warrant issued for failing to show. She sounds just perfect for Trump's press secretary!

Babbylonian 21st November 2019 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12900570)
At the risk of serious digression, where's the lie? Even the "gf experience" is known to be simulacrum. May as well accuse an actress for coming across as genuinely in character.

However you characterize them, it's the difference between welcome lies and lies that are destroying our country.

quadraginta 21st November 2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12900499)
Thanks for posting that and giving me nightmares for the next few nights.
Never would have caught Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly in that outfit.


Probably not, but then ... they could dance.

Also, if you were to have caught them in it they would have carried it off much better.

acbytesla 23rd November 2019 10:17 AM

Pompeo Next.
 
Pompeo seems like he wants to go home.

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Stacyhs 23rd November 2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 12902210)
Pompeo seems like he wants to go home.

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I AGREE

Thanks for my first laugh of the day! :thumbsup:

Norman Alexander 23rd November 2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12899197)
Isn't it time for a new press secretary?

Is someone actually doing that job currently? The Mango Megaphone of Immorality likes to do all his own "press" stuff solo.

The Don 25th November 2019 01:17 AM

Navy Secretary has been fired over President Trump's decision to pardon a Navy Seal who killed an unarmed 17-year old Islamic State prisoner.

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In his resignation letter to President Trump, Mr Spencer wrote: "The rule of law is what sets us apart from our adversaries. Good order and discipline is what has enabled our victory against foreign tyranny time and again."

"Unfortunately it has become apparent that in this respect, I no longer share the same understanding with the Commander in Chief who appointed me, in regards to the key principle of good order and discipline."

"I cannot in good conscience obey an order that I believe violates the sacred oath I took."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50541045

In order to serve in the Trump White House, I guess you have to tolerate, or ideally support, US service personnel committing war crimes. :(

thaiboxerken 25th November 2019 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12903683)
Navy Secretary has been fired over President Trump's decision to pardon a Navy Seal who killed an unarmed 17-year old Islamic State prisoner.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50541045

In order to serve in the Trump White House, I guess you have to tolerate, or ideally support, US service personnel committing war crimes. :(

Making war crimes great again. It's disgusting that Trump does this and that he still has supporters.

The Don 25th November 2019 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12903733)
Making war crimes great again. It's disgusting that Trump does this and that he still has supporters.

Indeed, he's likely to gain support thanks to the way that he's "supporting the military" :mad:

quadraginta 25th November 2019 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 12903738)
Indeed, he's likely to gain support thanks to the way that he's "supporting the military" :mad:


I suspect it changes nothing.

After the way he treated McCain's war record, Gold Star parents, etc., not to mention his own draft dodging, anyone who still believed he has any interest in actually supporting the military as opposed to making self-serving gestures has already demonstrated their unquestioning commitment to him.

The ones who know better will not be swayed by this.

The ones who understand the rule of law, order, and discipline in the military will be disgusted by him.

More than they already were, I should add.

Trebuchet 25th November 2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 12900588)
So fired twice for unethical behavior, arrested twice for DUI and had a warrant issued for failing to show. She sounds just perfect for Trump's press secretary!

She's attributed Bolton's Twitter problem to his advanced age, saying he forgot his password. Bolton is 71. Trump is 73.

Stacyhs 25th November 2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12904408)
She's attributed Bolton's Twitter problem to his advanced age, saying he forgot his password. Bolton is 71. Trump is 73.

Listening to anything Trump's press secretaries say is an utter waste of time.

Belz... 26th November 2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12903733)
Making war crimes great again. It's disgusting that Trump does this and that he still has supporters.

Donald Trump is like a bizarro George Washington. He seems to be doing his best to do the wrong thing every time. His only quality is that he doesn't own slaves.


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