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Tero 2nd October 2020 03:33 PM

Why isn't Trump tweeting? They took his phone?

Captain_Swoop 2nd October 2020 03:44 PM

He tweeted a video just before he flew away

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...58400352972800

SuburbanTurkey 2nd October 2020 04:25 PM

I hope he dies afraid. Come on 2020, you really owe us this.

TragicMonkey 2nd October 2020 04:27 PM

Pizza, new episode of Bakeoff, and this. Quite a day it has been!

SezMe 2nd October 2020 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13243418)
Fox is clearly looking for a way to abandon the USS Trump.
They seem to have gotten the marching orders to draw the line at White Supremacy.

I suspect so. Even they can see that Trump is soon to be irrelevant and even a competitor if he tries to build Trump TV, so they are starting to distance themselves. Money talks and he'll no longer draw an audience when he's out of power. <-- Ok, that's a bit of an exaggeration but you get my point.

SezMe 2nd October 2020 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13244179)
Certainly. But what if Trump is hospitalized two weeks from now? What does that do to the election?

How about the next day?? :) :) :)

acbytesla 2nd October 2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13245521)
I suspect so. Even they can see that Trump is soon to be irrelevant and even a competitor if he ties to build Trump TV, so they are starting to distance themselves. Money talks and he'll no longer draw an audience when he's out of power. <-- Ok, that's a bit of an exaggeration but you get my point.

I don't think it is an exaggeration. It's really how amazing people stop listening to a loser. Trump may try to continue to have a voice if he loses. But there will be lots of people even in the GOP who will be anxious to drown him out. It won't be "please don't go away mad, but please go away."

SezMe 2nd October 2020 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13244289)
Well, well, well.....Trump has tested positive for Covid. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

See, there is a god. :)

acbytesla 2nd October 2020 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13245533)
How about the next day?? :) :) :)

Funny how that worked out.

SezMe 2nd October 2020 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pixel42 (Post 13244465)
I hope he survives it because I want to see him voted out.

Absolutely. Anything else makes him a martyr.

slyjoe 2nd October 2020 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13245539)
Absolutely. Anything else makes him a martyr.

So? As someone reminded me about martyrs, there's only been one in the last 2000 years that has mattered.

SezMe 2nd October 2020 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaniner (Post 13245032)
I don't think his replacement (i.e. Pence) would be anywhere near the order of magnitude of the problem Trump is.

I disagree. One saving grace of Trump is that he is incompetent with his ego ruining everything in its path. Not Pence. You'll see next week that he is a very polished debater without the braggadocio. But he's way farther to the right than Trump. A Pence presidency on more than an interim basis is truly a thing to be feared.

SezMe 2nd October 2020 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13245461)
He tweeted a video just before he flew away

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...58400352972800

Jesus, couldn't White House staff quickly find a room with better acoustics to shoot that in?? Well, incompetence does reign supreme over there.

Ladewig 2nd October 2020 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13245549)
I disagree. One saving grace of Trump is that he is incompetent with his ego ruining everything in its path. Not Pence. You'll see next week that he is a very polished debater without the braggadocio. But he's way farther to the right than Trump. A Pence presidency on more than an interim basis is truly a thing to be feared.

Well, his SCOTUS picks are not going to be far from Trump’s.

His tax cuts for the rich aren’t going to be much bigger.

His handling of illegal immigrants is not going to be harsher.


How will his being further to the right manifest itself?

slyjoe 2nd October 2020 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladewig (Post 13245581)
Well, his SCOTUS picks are not going to be far from Trump’s.

His tax cuts for the rich aren’t going to be much bigger.

His handling of illegal immigrants is not going to be harsher.


How will his being further to the right manifest itself?

Religion.

Trebuchet 2nd October 2020 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13245559)
Jesus, couldn't White House staff quickly find a room with better acoustics to shoot that in?? Well, incompetence does reign supreme over there.

I think it was even AFTER he flew away!

Stacyhs 3rd October 2020 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13245535)
See, there is a god. :)

No, no god would ever inflict something like Trump on his own children.

dirtywick 3rd October 2020 02:22 AM

Mike Pence biggest problem is that he’s a boring weirdo. Congress and the Senate would buck him whenever they felt like it and then he’d immediately lose in November

TragicMonkey 3rd October 2020 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13245865)
Mike Pence biggest problem is that he’s a boring weirdo. Congress and the Senate would buck him whenever they felt like it and then he’d immediately lose in November

That sounds fine, let's do that!

Craig4 3rd October 2020 06:44 AM

Pence is the special kind of crazy that comes from being sure.

Trebuchet 3rd October 2020 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13246000)
Pence is the special kind of crazy that comes from being sure.

It occurs to me he'd never have nominated Amy Coney Barrett. Women aren't to have authority over men, and all that. Plus she's a Catholic, not a Christian.

Mojo 3rd October 2020 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tero (Post 13245433)
Why isn't Trump tweeting? They took his phone?


No tweets for 12 hours now, and the last one said “Going well, I think!” #famouslastwords

The Great Zaganza 3rd October 2020 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo (Post 13246105)
No tweets for 12 hours now, and the last one said “Going well, I think!” #famouslastwords

He has probably been sedated to offset his Adderall withdrawal symptoms.

Captain_Swoop 3rd October 2020 09:43 AM

wrong thread

Captain_Swoop 3rd October 2020 10:46 AM

Trump Tweets

OUR GREAT USA WANTS & NEEDS STIMULUS. WORK TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE. Thank you!

Captain_Swoop 4th October 2020 04:57 AM

Trump Retweeted

Black Voices for Trump
@BlackVoices4DJT
President @realDonaldTrump's Platinum Plan is designed to bring opportunity, security, fairness and prosperity to Black communities!

#BlackVoicesforTrump #PlatinumPlan

The Great Zaganza 4th October 2020 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13246822)
Trump Retweeted

Black Voices for Trump
@BlackVoices4DJT
President @realDonaldTrump's Platinum Plan is designed to bring opportunity, security, fairness and prosperity to Black communities!

#BlackVoicesforTrump #PlatinumPlan

sounds like straight up racism to me, giving one group of people based on their skin color a different plan than others.

but it's okay since a) it's Trump doing it and b) nothing is actually being done.

Aridas 4th October 2020 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13246824)
sounds like straight up racism to me, giving one group of people based on their skin color a different plan than others.

but it's okay since a) it's Trump doing it and b) nothing is actually being done.

FFIW, most of the main Democratic candidates also had something of a special focus on plans to help black people. It's not racism to work to try to correct harm done by long-term systemic racism, either way.

The Great Zaganza 4th October 2020 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13246847)
FFIW, most of the main Democratic candidates also had something of a special focus on plans to help black people. It's not racism to work to try to correct harm done by long-term systemic racism, either way.

I know.
But Trump just boasted about removing any mention of Race in anything coming from the government. He is violating his own rules.
As usual.

Mader Levap 4th October 2020 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13246824)
sounds like straight up racism to me, giving one group of people based on their skin color a different plan than others.
but it's okay since a) it's Trump doing it and b) nothing is actually being done.

You know, affirmative action can be constituted as racism. Apparently, some people think racism in other direction is okay.

The Great Zaganza 4th October 2020 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mader Levap (Post 13246855)
You know, affirmative action can be constituted as racism. Apparently, some people think racism in other direction is okay.

I think we are talking passed each other.

I have no problem with using race as one of the parameters to allocate resources when we can establish a correlation between race and beneficial outcomes of extra support.

My point is that this is anathema to Republicans in general, and current Trump polices with a ban on Critical Race Theory in particular.
I am amazed by the ability of Trump supporters to constantly hold contradictory positions as long as Trump does, too.

Safe-Keeper 4th October 2020 06:22 AM

He hasn't been very active on the Twitter front latelly. I'm taking that as a sign he's not well.

Gulliver Foyle 4th October 2020 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by varwoche (Post 13238348)
The narrower the margin, the more determinative causes for an outcome. For instance, Gore might have won Florida if he would have skipped lunch on Nov 2. The margin in 2016 was also paper thin.

Gore did win in Florida, a combination of US citizens (at c 80,000) illegally disenfranchised in a classic Jim Crow manoeuvre and the Supreme Court illegally stopping the count cheated him out of the win.

Never forget that.

Gulliver Foyle 4th October 2020 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13238714)
I don't think there are tens of thousands of qualified nominators. Thousands maybe:

To get to the figure of 10,259 permitted to nominate for a Nobel Peace Prize I added the numbers of the parliaments of the following countries: India, China, USA, Germany, France, UK, Italy, Brazil, Spain and Nigeria. Just ten countries, admittedly picked largely because I know they'd have substantial parliament numbers, gets you there.

Segnosaur 4th October 2020 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle (Post 13246898)
Gore did win in Florida, a combination of US citizens (at c 80,000) illegally disenfranchised in a classic Jim Crow manoeuvre and the Supreme Court illegally stopping the count cheated him out of the win.



Never forget that.

I can't speak of the disenfranchisement (something that is not surprising, given Florida's recent handling of ex-felons), but the supreme Court issue is a bit... Fuzzier. The problem is that there were several factors... How do you count dimpled and hanging chads, do you do a statewide recount or only counties requested by Gore, etc. Some combinations of those would have seen Gore win, other combinations would have seen Bush win.

Not that I think the supreme Court should have stopped the count, but it is possible (not certain, just possible) that even if they allowed the vote counts to continue Bush might still have won.

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Gulliver Foyle 4th October 2020 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatius (Post 13243590)
But that's the thing - it probably wouldn't upset his base. His base is used to dogwhistles, and used to "saying the quiet part quiet" and all that. They know that, even today, outright support for white supremacy is a losing proposition in most places. So they'll wave it away, they know there's an asterisk on his public denials. They won't care about what he says in public as long as he keeps saying the right things in private, and still actually does the racist things they want him to be doing.

But he's been saying what they want to hear loud and clear for near on four years now. And he's pushed the rest of the traitor party into dropping the dog whistles for open racism too. It is very hard to get the genie back into the bottle after it's been left out, just look at what happened to the DNVP when the Nazis came along.

alfaniner 4th October 2020 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 13246875)
He hasn't been very active on the Twitter front latelly. I'm taking that as a sign he's not well.

He's too busy working for America by signing papers!!!

Gulliver Foyle 4th October 2020 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 13245549)
I disagree. One saving grace of Trump is that he is incompetent with his ego ruining everything in its path. Not Pence. You'll see next week that he is a very polished debater without the braggadocio. But he's way farther to the right than Trump. A Pence presidency on more than an interim basis is truly a thing to be feared.

Pence is as much of an incompetent as Trump is, he only jumped on the Trump train because he was getting slaughtered in Indiana due to his personal incompetence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aridas (Post 13246847)
FFIW, most of the main Democratic candidates also had something of a special focus on plans to help black people. It's not racism to work to try to correct harm done by long-term systemic racism, either way.

That'd be ok if the actual plan weren't to give rich white people loads of money and political favours at the expense of poor black people. The first good thing Trump will do for black people is keeling over.

Gulliver Foyle 4th October 2020 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13246943)
I can't speak of the disenfranchisement (something that is not surprising, given Florida's recent handling of ex-felons), but the supreme Court issue is a bit... Fuzzier. The problem is that there were several factors... How do you count dimpled and hanging chads, do you do a statewide recount or only counties requested by Gore, etc. Some combinations of those would have seen Gore win, other combinations would have seen Bush win.

Not that I think the supreme Court should have stopped the count, but it is possible (not certain, just possible) that even if they allowed the vote counts to continue Bush might still have won.

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If they thought Shrub would have won, his father's cronies in the Supreme Court would have kicked it back to Florida. My guess is they were appraised of what the actual vote would turn out to be ahead of the ruling.

Fast Eddie B 4th October 2020 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13246943)
Not that I think the supreme Court should have stopped the count, but it is possible (not certain, just possible) that even if they allowed the vote counts to continue Bush might still have won.

We’re drifting pretty far off topic, but I believe the Miami Herald did a comprehensive investigation and came to the conclusion that Bush would have won in the end.


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