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Stacyhs 30th September 2022 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leumas (Post 13914968)
Nice links... :thumbsup:

It's not difficult when it's the truth.

Leumas 30th September 2022 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13914993)
It's not difficult when it's the truth.


The truth never hindered the Zealots in their zeal for peddling their perfidy and distorting reality to fit their delusions of "alternative facts" and hoodwinking their cult victims by telling them reality is not good for them.

thaiboxerken 1st October 2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13914885)
Yes, it does read like a CT forum but, it turns out this one is true.

What the warped one doesn't understand is the importance of facts and evidence. Feelings and opinions are more important in the warped view of reality.

bruto 1st October 2022 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 13915395)
What the warped one doesn't understand is the importance of facts and evidence. Feelings and opinions are more important in the warped view of reality.

Not, of course, ours. Now if only the holder of the moral cudgel could decide finally whether it's a greater virtue to give offense to ours, or simply not to care.

The Atheist 3rd October 2022 11:14 AM

Thank christ this is only happening to women, and not anyone important:

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Doctors have stopped prescribing certain medications, and pharmacists have stopped filling them, because the drugs could hurt hypothetical fetuses
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https://jezebel.com/non-pregnant-wom...vin-1849606994

kookbreaker 3rd October 2022 05:46 PM

Hardcore Anti-abortionist Herschel Walker may have paid for a girlfriend’s abortion.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-li...georgia-senate

Upchurch 3rd October 2022 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 13916606)
Hardcore Anti-abortionist Herschel Walker may have paid for a girlfriend’s abortion.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-li...georgia-senate

That was predictable.

Norman Alexander 3rd October 2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 13916606)
Hardcore Anti-abortionist Herschel Walker may have paid for a girlfriend’s abortion.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-li...georgia-senate

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Originally Posted by Upchurch (Post 13916610)
That was predictable.

He should have gone with "I can't remember." That would have been understandable given the current state of his mental fitness.

Segnosaur 3rd October 2022 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 13916606)
Hardcore Anti-abortionist Herschel Walker may have paid for a girlfriend’s abortion.

Apparently his family ain't too happy with him...

From: Yahoo (originally Huffington Post)
Herschel Walker’s son lashed out at him Monday on Twitter after the Republican U.S. Senate candidate denied a report that he paid for an ex-girlfriend’s abortion.... “Every family member of Herschel Walker asked him not to run for office, because we all knew (some of) his past. Every single one,” tweeted Christian Walker, a conservative social media personality.

Stacyhs 3rd October 2022 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur (Post 13916720)
Apparently his family ain't too happy with him...

From: Yahoo (originally Huffington Post)
Herschel Walker’s son lashed out at him Monday on Twitter after the Republican U.S. Senate candidate denied a report that he paid for an ex-girlfriend’s abortion.... “Every family member of Herschel Walker asked him not to run for office, because we all knew (some of) his past. Every single one,” tweeted Christian Walker, a conservative social media personality.

Anyone who votes for Herschel Walker is a damn fool. But then again, there doesn't seem to be a shortage of damn fools in the GOP.

Leumas 5th October 2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13916724)
Anyone who votes for Herschel Walker is a damn fool. But then again, there doesn't seem to be a shortage of damn fools in the GOP.


Dana Loesch Tosses Family Values Out the Window While Defending Herschel Walker Paying For Abortion
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I do not care if Heschel Walker paid to abort endangered baby eagle babies... I want control of the senate

Newt Gingrich Defends Herschel Walker: ‘He Had a Lot of Concussions’
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I think Walker is the most important Senate candidate in the country because he’ll do more to change the Senate… by his deep commitment to Christ. He had a lot of concussions
Watch this newt saying it on live TV @minute 6:00


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The Great Zaganza 5th October 2022 08:41 PM

Republicans:" we like our Representatives heavily concussed".

Stacyhs 5th October 2022 08:49 PM

Nah, Trump isn't a misogynist! From Leumas' second video above:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...e4f7db0305.jpg

What a POS he is.

Leumas 5th October 2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13918089)
Republicans:" we like our Representatives heavily concussed".


and without morals or ethics or decency or integrity and willing and grateful to swallow all excretions coming out of Trump's malodorous crevices.

cosmicaug 12th October 2022 07:57 AM

Avoiding the issue of fetal personhood, for now. Still, the Pandora's box has been opened & I really don't think they'll avoid it forever.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/11/politics/fetal-personhood-case-supreme-court

acbytesla 12th October 2022 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBFRPKY (Post 13840954)
Roe VS Wade overturned on Biden's watch. Congrats?


Every single justice that voted to overturn Roe were appointed by Republican Presidents. Three appointed by Trump. But we should blame Biden? Yea, that makes sense. :rolleyes:

Warp12 12th October 2022 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 13922693)
Every single justice that voted to overturn Roe were appointed by Republican Presidents. Three appointed by Trump. But we should blame Biden? Yea, that makes sense. :rolleyes:


No. The failure of the Democrats, in this case, is much larger than Joe Biden. I mean if we just look at pathetic Ginsburg and her contribution. And, of course, the pathetic Dem campaign of 2016...Jesus.

The Great Zaganza 12th October 2022 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13922700)
No. The failure of the Democrats, in this case, is much larger than Joe Biden. I mean if we just look at pathetic Ginsburg and her contribution. And, of course, the pathetic Dem campaign of 2016...Jesus.

Because Republicans have no agency and always need Dems to keep them in check lest they do horrible things?
Yep, it's the Dem's fault for letting the toddlers take the wheel.

Warp12 12th October 2022 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13922715)
Because Republicans have no agency and always need Dems to keep them in check lest they do horrible things?
Yep, it's the Dem's fault for letting the toddlers take the wheel.


That is not the point. If you know that a party has an intended goal that is against yours, in life or politics, you have the #1 responsibility to see to it that your wishes are protected.

The Republicans have not made their disdain for Roe a secret all of these years, after all.

The Great Zaganza 12th October 2022 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13922719)
That is not the point. If you know that a party has an intended goal that is against yours, in life or politics, you have the #1 responsibility to see to it that your wishes are protected.

The Republicans have not made their disdain for Roe a secret all of these years, after all.

And yet every SC nominee has said that Roe is settled law.
Your criticism boils down to: Dem voters in general and Ginsburg in particular should have known that Republicans would nominate liars with no ethics and no qualification (according to the Bar Association).
In short: you, like all Republicans, when you drill down to it, think that it's the Dem's job to stop Republicans from doing bad things, because Republicans are unable to stop themselves.

Warp12 12th October 2022 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13922723)
And yet every SC nominee has said that Roe is settled law.
Your criticism boils down to: Dem voters in general and Ginsburg in particular should have known that Republicans would nominate liars with no ethics and no qualification (according to the Bar Association).
In short: you, like all Republicans, when you drill down to it, think that it's the Dem's job to stop Republicans from doing bad things, because Republicans are unable to stop themselves.


Wrong.

You are characterizing things as "bad". And the point is, if your party thinks they are bad, they need to make better choices. For example, stupid Ginsburg, and your horrible 2016 campaign.

As a conservative, I can just sit here and laugh at the predictable results. It is no skin off my ass.

The Great Zaganza 12th October 2022 10:12 PM

Warp, it's objectively true that this far-right Supreme Court has made decisions that are unprecedented, not supported by law and harmful for most Americans.
I think this qualifies as "bad".

Btw, I agree with you that Ginsburg should have retried and that All Americans should have voted for HRC, if for no other reason than to protect the Supreme Court from the current evil clown show.

JoeMorgue 13th October 2022 05:19 AM

HA HA women are losing rights but the Libruls are tweaked.

The Atheist 14th October 2022 02:01 PM

No comment required.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/inces...b08e0e6081abf8

Warp12 14th October 2022 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Atheist (Post 13924149)


Meh. Typical ploy of normalizing the outlier in order to promote an agenda.

arayder 14th October 2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Atheist (Post 13924149)

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924202)
Meh. Typical ploy of normalizing the outlier in order to promote an agenda.

The typical ploy of dismissing the harm caused someone because the someone is only one person.

Resume 14th October 2022 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924202)
Meh. Typical ploy of normalizing the outlier in order to promote an agenda.

Not even in the same hemisphere as edgy.

Stacyhs 14th October 2022 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924202)
Meh. Typical ploy of normalizing the outlier in order to promote an agenda.

Yes, we know: young girls being forced to carry a rapist's baby by some states is just 'meh'. Especially to men it will never happen to.

Warp12 14th October 2022 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13924235)
Yes, we know: young girls being forced to carry a rapist's baby by some states is just 'meh'. Especially to men it will never happen to.


Well, it is unfortunately what liberals want. They (as clearly demonstrated in this thread) are critical of measures that allow for exceptions. They are haughty with their condemnation of such.

Let those rape babies simmer in the fertile wombs that were existentially created by Dems.

arayder 14th October 2022 04:19 PM

Troll failure alert!
 
Reading is fundamental.

The doctor, Dr. Shelly Tien, quoted in the article said pregnancy as a “result of violence is not a rare thing,”.

So is she wrong, Warp? Lying?

Stacyhs 14th October 2022 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924245)
Well, it is unfortunately what liberals want. They (as clearly demonstrated in this thread) are critical of measures that allow for exceptions. They are haughty with their condemnation of such.

Let those rape babies simmer in the fertile wombs that were existentially created by Dems.

Are you attempting to prove that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it? If so, it's already been done:

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How liars create the ‘illusion of truth’

Repetition makes a fact seem more true, regardless of whether it is or not. Understanding this effect can help you avoid falling for propaganda, says psychologist Tom Stafford.
We can see a classic example of this by looking at the number of Republicans and Indie conservatives who have fallen for Trump's Big Lie. Trump began planting the seeds for his Big Lie well before the election he'd eventually lose because he knows that ignorance is fertile ground for believing falsehoods.

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But part of guarding against the illusion is the obligation it puts on us to stop repeating falsehoods. We live in a world where the facts matter, and should matter. If you repeat things without bothering to check if they are true, you are helping to make a world where lies and truth are easier to confuse. So, please, think before you repeat.

The greatest defense against falling for the 'illusion of truth' is prior knowledge of the facts. We have read this thread and know the facts of what was said and what wasn't. And your claim is devoid of known facts.

Warp12 14th October 2022 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13924256)
Are you attempting to prove that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it? If so, it's already been done:



We can see a classic example of this by looking at the number of Republicans and Indie conservatives who have fallen for Trump's Big Lie. Trump began planting the seeds for his Big Lie well before the election he'd eventually lose because he knows that ignorance is fertile ground for believing falsehoods.




The greatest defense against falling for the 'illusion of truth' is prior knowledge of the facts. We have read this thread and know the facts of what was said and what wasn't. And your claim is devoid of known facts.


WTH are you babbling about, lol? Just address my statement directly. Please.

You have offered nothing to refute my position.

Stacyhs 14th October 2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924262)
WTH are you babbling about, lol? Just address my statement directly. Please.

You have offered nothing to refute my position.

I suggest you try reading my post again as you apparently have not connected this opening statement "Are you attempting to prove that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it? If so, it's already been done," to this closing statement, "The greatest defense against falling for the 'illusion of truth' is prior knowledge of the facts. We have read this thread and know the facts of what was said and what wasn't. And your claim is devoid of known facts."

I suggest you offer something to support your claim that "Well, it is unfortunately what liberals want. They (as clearly demonstrated in this thread) are critical of measures that allow for exceptions," with like, oh...I dunno... cited quotes.

Warp12 14th October 2022 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13924264)
I suggest you offer something to support your claim that "Well, it is unfortunately what liberals want. They (as clearly demonstrated in this thread) are critical of measures that allow for exceptions," with like, oh...I dunno... cited quotes.


So, prove to you water is wet?

Like, clearly some, I believe perhaps yourself, have criticized conservatives for endorsing exceptions. Perhaps revisit the history in this thread.

I think you might be awakened when viewing the words of those certain Dems.

arayder 14th October 2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924262)
WTH are you babbling about, lol? Just address my statement directly. Please.

You have offered nothing to refute my position.

Your "position" is based on your biased mind reading of people you call liberals. Better for you that you might have read the article you think supports your prejudice.

One has to wonder how many little girls are going to get raped and impregnated before you put your hatred of liberals aside and recognize their rights no matter how many of them you think there might be?

Stacyhs 14th October 2022 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924266)
So, prove to you water is wet?

You didn't claim water is wet, so no. Apparently, you did not understand (again) what I want when I suggested you: "offer something to support your claim that "Well, it is unfortunately what liberals want. They (as clearly demonstrated in this thread) are critical of measures that allow for exceptions," with like, oh...I dunno... cited quotes."

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Like, clearly some, I believe perhaps yourself, have criticized conservatives for endorsing exceptions. Perhaps revisit the history in this thread.
No, I know what I said and it is not my job to disprove your claim. If you make a claim, it's on you to support it with evidence. What next? Are you going to claim I said "Red is yellow and yellow is red" and then expect me to prove I didn't say that?

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I think you might be awakened when viewing the words of those certain Dems.
I think you might be trying to avoid actually quoting "the words of those certain Dems." Why is that?

arayder 14th October 2022 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924262)
WTH are you babbling about, lol? Just address my statement directly. Please.

You have offered nothing to refute my position.

Warp, so far you have posted an article that refutes your own argument, pretended to be able to read minds and declared yourself the winner of the debate.

That's three strikes.

The Atheist 14th October 2022 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924202)
Meh. Typical ploy of normalizing the outlier in order to promote an agenda.

:dl:

I hope you don't have, and never have, children.

Hercules56 14th October 2022 07:05 PM

As a Liberal I have no problem with a ban on abortion after the point of reasonable viability, which is around 25 weeks and later. With an exception to save the life of the mother or prevent serious physical harm, or if the fetus is severely deformed and/or likely to die after birth.

There is no point forcing women to go to term with a fetus before the point at which it would likely survive outside the womb.

Hercules56 14th October 2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Warp12 (Post 13924245)
Well, it is unfortunately what liberals want. They (as clearly demonstrated in this thread) are critical of measures that allow for exceptions. They are haughty with their condemnation of such.

Let those rape babies simmer in the fertile wombs that were existentially created by Dems.

So all rape victims are Democrats? I'm not sure what you're getting at here.


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