2013 Feinstein Assault Weapons Ban
Sen. Feinstein has publishedan overview of her proposal on her website. This thing has exactly 0% chance of passing the Senate. Hopefully it at least makes it to the floor so we can have a vote.
Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of: o 120 specifically-named firearms o Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic o Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by: o Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test o Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test o Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by: o Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment o Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and o Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include: o Background check of owner and any transferee; o Type and serial number of the firearm; o Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint; o Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and o Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration This reads like the grandfathered weapons - now registered under NFA - would be non-transefferable. |
I would like to take this moment to, in spirit, spit a throat oyster in that fanatic scum-sucker's face.
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The NRA is claiming that the semi-auto firearms registered as NFA weapons will be non-transferable, but the NFA of 1934 allows the transfer of these firearms. We will not know until January when the actual bill is released.
If Feinstein wants to make semi-auto's transfer like machine guns, then her bill should allow transfer at any time with BATFE approval. Destroying these firearms upon the owners death is a definite infringement on the right to keep and bear arms. I wonder what provisions the bill will contain to allow a person to keep their firearms pending registration? It currently takes at least six months for the BATFE to register a firearm. The bill also says we would have to submit the usual fingerprints and mugshots with the ATF form 4, what about firearms owned by trusts? Will we have to obtain the local sheriff's signatures on the ATF form 4 to register the firearm? Unless the bill requires that the sheriff sign the application, the local sheriffs could prevent registration of any firearm they see fit and for any reason. They are not required to tell a person why the signature is withheld, so it could be for race or creed as far as we know. As far as I know only Tennessee requires that sheriffs sign the applications for those who are allowed to own guns. Will the $200 tax have to be paid for each gun registered? I hope not. This would be a minimum of $4000 for me to pay. I have spent years educating people on safe and legal gun ownership and now Feinstein wants to increase my tax burden as thanks. Ranb |
It would be a good start.
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It doesn't go nearly far enough.
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Any gun ban legislation needs to make it no further than somebody's shredding machine. And any legislator who proposes it needs to gather their possessions in a box and be escorted out of their office on Capitol Hill. In Feinstein's case, with a dunce cap on her head. |
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The NRA sure is correct about the gun banners being incrementalists.
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I don't want to reduce the firepower of weapons. If it was me writing the law, I would require a federal registration of all firearms, similar to automobile registration, and mandate storage requirements. Possibly even storing military-style weapons at specific ranges just to put the irrational fear of these weapons to bed for good. I would not ban them. Doing so is smoke and mirrors. It's operating based solely on emotion. |
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Theoretically it does not lower the number of assault weapons in the USA at all. It grandfathers them in like the last AWB and requires that they be registered. If a person doesn't want to register them they can legally sell them to a person who is willing to just prior to the ban going into effect. It is a waste of time effort and money to punish law abiding owners instead of improving the way we could keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and criminals. Ranb |
Can anyone tell me how this AWB if passed into law a year ago could have prevented the tragedy at Sandy Hook? As far as I know it doesn't contain any provision for safe storage of guns. The perp most likely murdered the lawful owner of the guns before taking them out of the house. Nothing in this bill would have prevented the legal owner from possessing the AR-15 and the pistols used at the shooting.
So what good is this law going to do at all? The guns will still be there. It seems it only exists to punish law abiding gun owners. Ranb |
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Adam Lanza was not a gun owner, he was a gun thief before he became a murder. Why not tell the truth here instead? So you agree that this bill will not reduce crime? Ranb |
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I thought it was like Illinois, where only rimfire (.22s basically) are allowed for those under 21. |
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And I'm open to the legal age being raised to 25, well after the age schizophrenia manifests itself. At any rate, you don't advocate taking anyone's gun away or preventing anyone from acquiring a gun unless you have paperwork indicating that shooting up a school is the likely result? |
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If Feinstein really wanted to impact crime rate then her bill would have:
- mandated safe storage for all firearms - imposed restrictions on handguns - put all private sales through a licenced FFL dealer with appropriate background checks. - mandating registration of all firearms (but would only be accessible by law enforcement agencies, with severe penalties for publication of such) - repealing the NRA sponsored clauses on CDC funding and computerised registration - States would be required to share mental health records with the FBI |
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I also don't have a problem with additional laws as required (and better enforcement of existing ones, it's not like those don't already exist). I just want the enacting of laws to be based on reason and not emotion - and Feinstein has a habit of cynically exploiting tragedy to pass laws against her pet boogeyman while people are emotional. |
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I mean, peoples who vote for her probably agree with banning guns, but how many of them support her real pet causes? Internet censorship, War on (all)Drugs, Patriot Act extension, Flag Desecration Amendment. Those are not coming from the voters, but her own black heart. |
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I call her hypocrite because she carried a pistol while campaigning to deny other people the right to carry. She was the only person in San Francisco allowed to, for that matter: http://usliberals.about.com/od/liber...nFeinstein.htm |
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Second, I really wish you and others would stop attributing my and others interest in stronger regulations then you suggest, to emotions. You really have no clue what drives others opinions. Suggesting it's an emotional response seems to me to be an intellectually dishonest way of hand waving away something you don't want to address. |
Meanwhile, Colorado background checks are up - 10,000%.
How is this supposed to get guns off the streets again? |
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