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Bogative 21st January 2019 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12572351)
Racists often have a hard time seeing blatant racism when it happens, not that I'm implying that you are racist.

Idiots often see racism where there is none, not that I am implying you are an idiot.

thaiboxerken 21st January 2019 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 12572359)
Idiots often see racism where there is none, not that I am implying you are an idiot.

Is that what they teach you to say at MAGA rallies?

Bogative 21st January 2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12572357)
I don't see many black people at Klan rallies, but I think Klanners do racist things at them.

Their racism is usually directed at people because of their race or ethnicity. Was the fans' chanting based on skin color or ethnicity at the game last night, or possibly for some other reason?

Just trying to see if there's any possible reason other than racism for their actions.

thaiboxerken 21st January 2019 11:33 PM

A racist chant is a racist chant.

Bogative 21st January 2019 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12572365)
A racist chant is a racist chant.

A racist word is a racist word.

For example, the n-word. Would you agree that anytime that word is used, it is racist no matter the context or who uses it?

thaiboxerken 21st January 2019 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 12572371)
A racist word is a racist word.

For example, the n-word. Would you agree that anytime that word is used, it is racist no matter the context or who uses it?

Depends on the who and context, yes.

I think a racist chant to motivate a team to win a football game is still a racist chant. It is insensitive to Natives. It's like wearing black-face to cheer on a team named the Sambos.

CaptainHowdy 21st January 2019 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 12572353)
Strange that, I didn't notice any native-Americans on the football team the fans were chanting at. How do you explain that?

Racism. Not many Asians on the football teams either. A few Whites have been able to use their privilege to break into the sport. But #NFLsoblack is the clearest example of systemic endemic racism and hate in America today.

Bogative 21st January 2019 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12572375)
Depends on the who and context, yes.

Good, we agree context matters. Other than the color of their skin and the hats they were wearing, what led you to believe their actions were racist?

CaptainHowdy 21st January 2019 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kookbreaker (Post 12572243)
Do tell. :rolleyes:

And no, I don't think these guys are the same as white nationalists. They have nowhere near the terrorism & murder levels.

As I said, they are closer to WBC, which did horrendously offensive stuff. But to my knowledge, no acts of murder or terrorism.

You'll need to find a better source than the ADL. And, no, the SPLC doesn't count either.

lionking 22nd January 2019 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 12572324)
Nope, it is proof they were doing the tomahawk chop and chanting. You do not know their motivations for doing it, you're just assuming it was racist.

I saw tens of thousands of people doing the tomahawk chop and chant on television last night during the Chiefs game, was that racism also?

That you donít see that as racist says something about you. Something not at all flattering.

Bogative 22nd January 2019 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572380)
Racism. Not many Asians on the football teams either. A few Whites have been able to use their privilege to break into the sport. But #NFLsoblack is the clearest example of systemic endemic racism and hate in America today.

Well, if progressives have taught me anything it is that any disparity between races (e.g. prison population, criminal behavior, school expulsions, college admittance) can only be one thing and that is racism. So I agree with you.

ProBonoShill 22nd January 2019 12:05 AM

CNN is now walking back their initial story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iTG...LGUKHDMQ2QtHTx

ETA here's the initial report:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvbsqk0HOWw

Bogative 22nd January 2019 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lionking (Post 12572385)
That you donít see that as racist says something about you. Something not at all flattering.

I'm guessing your definition of racism = any action by white people that progressives and minorities find offensive.

CaptainHowdy 22nd January 2019 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crescent (Post 12572259)
We have already pointed out that Marines were in Vietnam as late as 1975, when he would have been 21.

I don't know what his actual service record is - but neither do you.

Who cares if Tonto was in the marines or not? We have video of him participating in in an attack on a group of teenagers in support of a racist homophobic separatist nationalist terrorists. What more do you need to know?

smartcooky 22nd January 2019 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572380)
Racism. Not many Asians on the football teams either. A few Whites have been able to use their privilege to break into the sport. But #NFLsoblack is the clearest example of systemic endemic racism and hate in America today.

Its not racism, its biology and evolution.

The hashtag might be racism, but the reason there are so many black athletes in sports like NFL has nothing to do with racist attitudes. Black athletes tend to outperform* white athletes at sports requiring mostly size, strength and fitness. That is not an opinion or a meme, it is a verifiable, statistical fact.

We see it in American Football, Basketball, Boxing and Sprinting.

*For the pedants and nitpickers who are just itching to say "well whaddabout this white sportsman or that white sportsman", I would point out that I said "tend to outperform" not "always outperform"

smartcooky 22nd January 2019 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572433)
Who cares if Tonto was in the marines or not? We have video of him participating in in an attack on a group of teenagers in support of a racist homophobic separatist nationalist terrorists. What more do you need to know?

Tonto? Really?

lionking 22nd January 2019 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 12572448)
Tonto? Really?

Unbelievable. Yet the poster of this slur will contend itís not racist.

zooterkin 22nd January 2019 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572433)
Who cares if Tonto was in the marines or not? We have video of him participating in in an attack on a group of teenagers in support of a racist homophobic separatist nationalist terrorists. What more do you need to know?

Tonto? "Attack"? :boggled:

smartcooky 22nd January 2019 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ProBonoShill (Post 12572389)
CNN is now walking back their initial story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iTG...LGUKHDMQ2QtHTx

ETA here's the initial report:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvbsqk0HOWw

And bloody well good on them for doing so.

Its just like Faux News when they walked back their false allegation that people in the famous pre-election "Caravan"* were bringing leprosy and smallpox to America...

Oh, wait!


*
Y'all remember that caravan don't you? The one that Trump touted was an invasion and the gravest threat the US Security since the Cold War; the caravan that Trump sent 15,000 troops to the southern border to defend against, the caravan that completely dissipated before ever reached the border? Yeah, THAT caravan!

smartcooky 22nd January 2019 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lionking (Post 12572450)
Unbelievable. Yet the poster of this slur will contend itís not racist.


Yep, tone deaf!

Skeptic Tank 22nd January 2019 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12572346)
The tomahawk chop, chanting and the whooping are racist reactions to the Native Americans. You can choose to deny it, but that's all you are doing, denying the truth. Their behavior is as bad as wearing blackface.

And yes, the tomahawk chop and chant at the Chiefs game is racist.

They are reactions which are influenced by observing the races of those they were being confronted by.

The black Hebrew loons and the native loons that day were both hostile to the white children, confronted them and confronted and/or mocked them in ways which were informed by them being white.

If you’re fat, and you are aggressive and confrontational to someone they will very likely use your fatness in what they say back to you. Same if you’re old, your sex, race, looks, etc.

The dream of people not caring about race is entirely impossible and it’s why we should have never, ever attempted this level of multiracialism. It WILL be leading to civil wars across the world and not long from now either. All the blame will be at the feet of those who ignored both human nature and history.

Captain_Swoop 22nd January 2019 02:37 AM

Trump Tweets

Looking like Nick Sandman & Covington Catholic students were treated unfairly with early judgements proving out to be false - smeared by media.
Not good, but making big comeback! “New footage shows that media was wrong about teen’s encounter with Native American” @TuckerCarlson

thaiboxerken 22nd January 2019 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Tank (Post 12572458)
They are reactions which are influenced by observing the races of those they were being confronted by.

When the resident racist is here defending the racist reactions, you've lost Bogative.

Skeptic Tank 22nd January 2019 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lionking (Post 12572450)
Unbelievable. Yet the poster of this slur will contend it’s not racist.

Yeah, it is racist. Who cares? Humans are racist.

It’s sexist for men to want to sleep with women and exclude men. It’s agist and ablist and looksist and racist what sort of preferences people have for their mates.

People are different from one another and they notice and react to those differences and always will. Always SHOULD, in fact.

Nobody makes any serious effort to push back against nonwhites being openly, profoundly racist constantly.

lionking 22nd January 2019 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Tank (Post 12572461)
Yeah, it is racist. Who cares? Humans are racist.

Itís sexist for men to want to sleep with women and exclude men. Itís agist and ablist and looksist and racist what sort of preferences people have for their mates.

People are different from one another and they notice and react to those differences and always will. Always SHOULD, in fact.

Nobody makes any serious effort to push back against nonwhites being openly, profoundly racist constantly.

All I can say is that you are consistent. I really need not read your posts, and in future wonít.

baron 22nd January 2019 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 12571983)
In the words of your Great Leader (so you'll understand): Buh-Bye!

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...65354a0836.jpg

Embarrassing.

baron 22nd January 2019 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey (Post 12572249)
Do you have anything to back up the accusation of faking his Vietnam service or is this ****-kicking of the finest Republican tradition?

Go ahead and read my posts, I won't charge you.

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 12572263)
So here we have this little toxic school with a documented history of producing rapists and bullies. Where the kids wear blackface to basketball games. Where the entire staff has not a single person of color.

Here we go again. Rapists and bullies. I wonder if any of them advocated the murder of a baby..?

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12572351)
Racists often have a hard time seeing blatant racism when it happens, not that I'm implying that you are racist.

And people still say that there is no apologism for bigotry and racism in this thread. Here we have Hypocrisy 101, delivered with a straight face, and a double dollop of screaming irony. Racists have a hard time seeing blatant racism when it happens, we are told. I guess that explains why they can sit though an hour of the worst racist, bigoted, homophobic taunts and threats of violence from Group A, and only see the 'racism' of Group B who have the audacity to jump up and down in time to the beat of a drum.

This is the mentality that causes death threats to be sent to white children for doing nothing but smiling. This is the mentality that prompts people to call for schools to be shot up because a group of white kids reacted to provocation by jumping up and down. It's a corruption of the mind.

baron 22nd January 2019 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 12572446)
Its not racism, its biology and evolution.

The hashtag might be racism, but the reason there are so many black athletes in sports like NFL has nothing to do with racist attitudes. Black athletes tend to outperform* white athletes at sports requiring mostly size, strength and fitness. That is not an opinion or a meme, it is a verifiable, statistical fact.

I guess these genetic differences stop short of the brain, in some miraculous manner. Ooooh, racist!

CaptainHowdy 22nd January 2019 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 12572446)
Its not racism, its biology and evolution.

The hashtag might be racism, but the reason there are so many black athletes in sports like NFL has nothing to do with racist attitudes. Black athletes tend to outperform* white athletes at sports requiring mostly size, strength and fitness. That is not an opinion or a meme, it is a verifiable, statistical fact.

We see it in American Football, Basketball, Boxing and Sprinting.

*For the pedants and nitpickers who are just itching to say "well whaddabout this white sportsman or that white sportsman", I would point out that I said "tend to outperform" not "always outperform"

Oh, give me a break! That's like saying that the reason White people excel in the workplace and earn more money than Black people isn't because of racism, it's because of evolution and biology! That the reason there are so many White men in positions of authority has nothing to do with racist attitudes. White people tend to outperform black people at tasks requiring mostly intellectual prowess. That is not an opinion or a meme, it is a verifiable, statistical fact.

Do you know how racist and ignorant of science you sound?

Captain_Swoop 22nd January 2019 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 12572446)
Its not racism, its biology and evolution.

The hashtag might be racism, but the reason there are so many black athletes in sports like NFL has nothing to do with racist attitudes. Black athletes tend to outperform* white athletes at sports requiring mostly size, strength and fitness. That is not an opinion or a meme, it is a verifiable, statistical fact.

We see it in American Football, Basketball, Boxing and Sprinting.

*For the pedants and nitpickers who are just itching to say "well whaddabout this white sportsman or that white sportsman", I would point out that I said "tend to outperform" not "always outperform"

They tend not to excel at sports that need a lot of money though.


Or cycling for some reason.
How many black cyclists on the Pro Tour?

CaptainHowdy 22nd January 2019 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 12572448)
Tonto? Really?

Well yes, of course. What else is there? "Pocahontas" has been taken. Besides, the person banging on the drum was a man. Pocahontas was a woman. Some people would consider it disrespectful to call a man by a woman's name.

lionking 22nd January 2019 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572490)
Well yes, of course. What else is there? "Pocahontas" has been taken. Besides, the person banging on the drum was a man. Pocahontas was a woman. Some people would consider it disrespectful to call a man by a woman's name.

Bottom of the barrel.

smartcooky 22nd January 2019 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572480)
Oh, give me a break! That's like saying that the reason White people excel in the workplace and earn more money than Black people isn't because of racism, it's because of evolution and biology! That the reason there are so many White men in positions of authority has nothing to do with racist attitudes. White people tend to outperform black people at tasks requiring mostly intellectual prowess. That is not an opinion or a meme, it is a verifiable, statistical fact.

Do you know how racist and ignorant of science you sound?

You ignorance is no excuse for your ignorance.

Read and learn

http://run-down.com/guests/je_black_athletes_p2.php

Skeptic Tank 22nd January 2019 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572480)
Oh, give me a break! That's like saying that the reason White people excel in the workplace and earn more money than Black people isn't because of racism, it's because of evolution and biology! That the reason there are so many White men in positions of authority has nothing to do with racist attitudes. White people tend to outperform black people at tasks requiring mostly intellectual prowess. That is not an opinion or a meme, it is a verifiable, statistical fact.

Do you know how racist and ignorant of science you sound?

But thatís all true though.

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572490)
Well yes, of course. What else is there? "Pocahontas" has been taken. Besides, the person banging on the drum was a man. Pocahontas was a woman. Some people would consider it disrespectful to call a man by a woman's name.

Show some respect, he is Chief Crying Wolf.

baron 22nd January 2019 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 12572497)
You ignorance is no excuse for your ignorance.

Read and learn

http://run-down.com/guests/je_black_athletes_p2.php

And that disproves what I said... how?

baron 22nd January 2019 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Tank (Post 12572498)
Show some respect, he is Chief CrLying Wolf.

EFA

shuttlt 22nd January 2019 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 12572263)
So here we have this little toxic school with a documented history of producing rapists and bullies. Where the kids wear blackface to basketball games. Where the entire staff has not a single person of color.

They seem to have themed seasons. One time it was all Hawaiian shirts, another time they all dressed in blue with blue face paint, another time in white with white face paint, another time it was black with black face paint. It looks like the black season was 2011. It's not obvious that race had anything to do with it, from their point of view.

smartcooky 22nd January 2019 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 12572490)
Well yes, of course. What else is there? "Pocahontas" has been taken. Besides, the person banging on the drum was a man. Pocahontas was a woman. Some people would consider it disrespectful to call a man by a woman's name.

Called out on your racism, so you double down on it?

'K

smartcooky 22nd January 2019 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by baron (Post 12572504)
And that disproves what I said... how?

Who's trying to disprove anything? I am simply backing up my claim, with actual evidence.

I don't give a fat rats arse what you think.

baron 22nd January 2019 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by smartcooky (Post 12572511)
Who's trying to disprove anything? I am simply backing up my claim, with actual evidence.

I don't give a fat rats arse what you think.

Then don't quote me, disagree then pretend you didn't. Everyone can see you're lying so don't do it.


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