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Puppycow 10th January 2021 10:46 PM

Capitol assault was orchestrated by ANTIFA
 
https://twitter.com/RepMoBrooks/stat...71347043115008

Quote:

Please, don’t be like #FakeNewsMedia, don’t rush to judgment on assault on Capitol. Wait for investigation. All may not be (and likely is not) what appears. Evidence growing that fascist ANTIFA orchestrated Capitol attack with clever mob control tactics.

Evidence follows:
- Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL)

Wow, those ANTIFA sure are clever. They can mind-control Trumpers and make them commit crimes!

Resume 10th January 2021 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puppycow (Post 13356327)
https://twitter.com/RepMoBrooks/stat...71347043115008


- Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL)

Wow, those ANTIFA sure are clever. They can mind-control Trumpers and make them commit crimes!

Mo Brooks, so it's idiot approved.

Bwahahahahahaha!!

The Great Zaganza 10th January 2021 10:51 PM

they are just scared for their lives, less politically and more literally.

Puppycow 10th January 2021 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13356332)
they are just scared for their lives, less politically and more literally.

"They" meaning whom? Mo Brooks, et al?

Does he need to be? And if so, from whom?

Sorry if it seems I'm being obtuse, but I've seen a lot of claims recently, including claims that "mass executions" are imminent.

The Great Zaganza 10th January 2021 11:17 PM

Plenty of Republicans are getting deaths threats and are verbally assaulted when they are seen as not being sufficiently supportive of Trump.
They have seen what happened to Kemp after he couldn't fake the election for Trump.

They all know that the mob is coming for them, they just want to delay them coming for them, personally and hope they get arrested for killing more obvious "Enemies of Trump" first and get arrested for it.
It's a classical "I just have to run faster than the slowest guy" strategy.

Puppycow 10th January 2021 11:22 PM

Ah, I understand. So Mo Brooks doesn't actually believe what he's saying, he's just saying it because he's worried for his own personal safety?

Maybe. I can't mind-read.

The Great Zaganza 10th January 2021 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Puppycow (Post 13356346)
Ah, I understand. So Mo Brooks doesn't actually believe what he's saying, he's just saying it because he's worried for his own personal safety?

Maybe. I can't mind-read.

it can easily be both.
He might believe it, but he is compelled to say it out loud to signal to the Trump Purists that they should please shoot someone else first.

after all, the politically wise move would be for all Republicans to just shut up and wait, knowing full well that things are not going to look better in a week from now.

Puppycow 10th January 2021 11:31 PM

Personally, if I'm worried about that I figure that the safest thing to say is nothing at all, at least until it is apparent who is winning and who is running for cover.

erlando 11th January 2021 12:44 AM

"Evidence".. Yeah, right.

Matthew Best 11th January 2021 12:50 AM

Wait - Antifa are fascists now?

Puppycow 11th January 2021 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Best (Post 13356373)
Wait - Antifa are fascists now?

As my mama always said, fascist is as fascist does.

dudalb 11th January 2021 02:37 AM

Fox News is pushing this theory quite hard.

Dani 11th January 2021 02:59 AM

Mo Brooks?

Not even Mel Brooks achieved this level of comedy.

Craig4 11th January 2021 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 13356427)
Fox News is pushing this theory quite hard.

On the news shows or the prime-time opinion shows?

gnome 11th January 2021 07:17 AM

Are they trying to get back into Trump's good graces? I feel like that ship has sailed.

turingtest 11th January 2021 07:35 AM

Mo Brooks is from Alabama, right next door to me here in Mississippi. As someone with a life-long experience with this sort of thing, I can tell you that he most likely really does believe it (and probably still does, even after his "evidence" was shown to be completely untrue- The Daily Beast via MSN). The thinking goes something like this-

"Patriots," by definition, do not riot.

Antifa is defined, simply and solely, as "people that riot."

Therefore, if there were riots, it was Antifa doing them; if any "patriots" were involved in any kind of disturbances, then the disturbances were not riots, they were protests.

Bubba 11th January 2021 08:29 AM

Capitol assault orchestrated by ANTIFA ??

Antifa was duped into thinking they orchestrated it. Cui bono?

But anyway....Why are you even talking about Antifa since you and Nadler assert it is a myth ?

Dave Rogers 11th January 2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13356709)
Antifa was duped into thinking they orchestrated it.

:dl:

I have to say, your material was getting a little stale, but this is the funniest thing I've seen since last Wednesday.

Dave

Bubba 11th January 2021 08:46 AM

Antifa ?


Did you consult Mr Nadler?



Bubba 11th January 2021 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers (Post 13356733)
:dl:

I have to say, your material was getting a little stale, but this is the funniest thing I've seen since last Wednesday.

Dave


Its not that difficult to figure out.

You'll see

Matthew Best 11th January 2021 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13356736)
You'll see

When?

The Great Zaganza 11th January 2021 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13356736)
Its not that difficult to figure out.

You'll see

Sometimes I wish I had your angel-like patience.

Resume 11th January 2021 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Best (Post 13356778)
When?

June 35th, 202116.

The Greater Fool 11th January 2021 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13356806)
June 35th, 202116.

Stardate 4061.2

Foster Zygote 11th January 2021 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Best (Post 13356778)
When?

In the year 252525
The backwards time machine still won't have arrived
In all the world, there's only one technology
A rusty sword for practicing proctology

Nessie 11th January 2021 10:33 AM

One of the supposed Antifa (the guy seen with the lectern in the Capitol) posing with Trump Jnr.

https://twitter.com/OnlineDetective/...023488/photo/1

Guybrush Threepwood 11th January 2021 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nessie (Post 13356895)
One of the supposed Antifa (the guy seen with the lectern in the Capitol) posing with Trump Jnr.

https://twitter.com/OnlineDetective/...023488/photo/1

Antifa fifth columnist obviously. :)

Bubba 11th January 2021 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nessie (Post 13356895)
One of the supposed Antifa (the guy seen with the lectern in the Capitol) posing with Trump Jnr.

https://twitter.com/OnlineDetective/...023488/photo/1



One of the dumber Trumpers, unwittingly serving their purpose, in the insurrection plan

Elagabalus 11th January 2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13356589)
On the news shows or the prime-time opinion shows?

Everyone over on the OANN comment section* believes some version of this I think. Which doesn't mean much but I would say that it is definitely being "pushed" on the MAGAbillies.






*who isn't a lib or never trumper defending the US Constitution by taking over the comment section and trying to talk some sense into these idiots, that is!

turingtest 11th January 2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13356918)
No matter. Your topic made a convenient segue


You may stand down from your pulpit

Giving up so easily? Well, that was totally...expected. :rolleyes:

Steve 11th January 2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13356925)
One of the dumber Trumpers, unwittingly serving their purpose, in the insurrection plan

Seems to be a feature of this thread.

Jack by the hedge 11th January 2021 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Best (Post 13356373)
Wait - Antifa are fascists now?

Fascist antifascists. Schrödinger's rioter. At first they think they're in a super position but then they collapse and you can see exactly what they are.

Bubba 11th January 2021 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge (Post 13357008)
Fascist antifascists. Schrödinger's rioter. At first they think they're in a super position but then they collapse and you can see exactly what they are.


Isnt their suppression of speech a reason they qualify as fascists.?

BStrong 11th January 2021 12:32 PM

The "agent provocateur" cop-out is almost universal:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10...-blm-protests/

Reports of agents provocateurs, outside agitators and police infiltration of protests are appearing throughout the country and involving law-enforcement agents and rightwing nationalists. The most public role of such a disruptor was detailed in Minneapolis at the time of Trump’s provocative tweets and involved someone who has come to be known as the “Umbrella Man.”

Elagabalus 11th January 2021 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13356925)
One of the dumber Trumpers, unwittingly serving their purpose, in the insurrection plan

From a OANN commeter!

Quote:

On Sunday night, Twitter banned Alexander’s personal account and an account for “Stop The Steal.” Alexander didn’t respond to a request for comment. Alexander is a convicted felon, after pleading guilty to felony property theft in 2007 and felony credit card abuse in 2008. Alexander first appeared in conservative politics in the Tea Party era under the name “Ali Akbar,” organizing a group called the National Bloggers’ Club that was tied to “shady data collection operations.” In the Trump era, now using a new name, Alexander emerged as an idiosyncratic, trash-talking MAGA die-hard affiliated with figures like InfoWars conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, anti-Muslim Trump booster Laura Loomer, blundering provocateur Jacob Wohl, and Trump ally Roger Stone.....Alexander is the man trumps Goons say is Antifa...HAHAHAHA

CAN'T MAKE THIS CRAP UP...


Bubba 11th January 2021 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BStrong (Post 13357056)
The "agent provocateur" cop-out is almost universal:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10...-blm-protests/

Reports of agents provocateurs, outside agitators and police infiltration of protests are appearing throughout the country and involving law-enforcement agents and rightwing nationalists. The most public role of such a disruptor was detailed in Minneapolis at the time of Trump’s provocative tweets and involved someone who has come to be known as the “Umbrella Man.”


Whatever.


Its a real and effective trick. A variation on false flag attack. A lone agent provocateur could pull it off, but more likely there is a conspiracy behind each instance.

By definition it happens more often than the known instances ie we cannot know when it has happened.

Pseudo skeptics tend to shy away from this

Jack by the hedge 11th January 2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13357049)
Isnt their suppression of speech a reason they qualify as fascists.?

Who do you mean; the rioters or antifa? And whose speech was suppressed? And "does bad things" isn't a very useful definition of fascist anyway.

Jack by the hedge 11th January 2021 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubba (Post 13357083)
... it happens more often than the known instances ie we cannot know when it has happened.

It's easy. They're your brave loyal patriots right up to the moment you realise they crossed the line into behaviour that's going to have bad consequences for your side and that's the moment they turn out to have been your enemies all along wearing a false beard and glasses.

dann 11th January 2021 01:14 PM

It is very unfair to give Antifa credit for something the Nazis are so proud of.
Credit where credit is due!

ponderingturtle 11th January 2021 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BStrong (Post 13357056)
The "agent provocateur" cop-out is almost universal:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10...-blm-protests/

Reports of agents provocateurs, outside agitators and police infiltration of protests are appearing throughout the country and involving law-enforcement agents and rightwing nationalists. The most public role of such a disruptor was detailed in Minneapolis at the time of Trump’s provocative tweets and involved someone who has come to be known as the “Umbrella Man.”

Well a number of the insurrectionists were off duty cops. Not sure if that makes them more likely to be anti-fa agents provocateurs or not.


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