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a_unique_person 11th October 2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12853052)
And Smith left right after a meeting between Barr and Rupert Murdoch

God, the day, and let it be not far in the future, when Murdoch kicks the bucket I will be out in the streets, dancing and singing "Ding Dong,The Witch Is Dead" at the top of my voice.

Murdoch is despicable.

dudalb 11th October 2019 03:27 PM

Stone is basically using the worst kind of shyster lawyer tactics..tactics which no respectable attorney would use...to delay the proceedings.
You have not seen much of Stone because he has to keep a low profile, and that must be driving him nuts.

dudalb 11th October 2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12853087)
Murdoch is despicable.

Way too mild, but if I used the words I think properly describe him I would get a suspension...

alfaniner 11th October 2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by acbytesla (Post 12853055)
I wonder if they are taking bets on Rudy being indicted?

Which reminds me. His name escapes me. What ever happened to Trump's crazy friend who they arrested in the middle of the night. He wore those round glasses and had the the Nixon tattoo on his back.

Professor Farnsworth.

dudalb 11th October 2019 03:43 PM

Shepard SMith just said Fox's prime time lineup "was more then he could stand"

You ain't the only one, Shepard...

Minoosh 11th October 2019 03:59 PM

Trump refuses to say Giuliani is still his lawyer 😂

dudalb 11th October 2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 12853114)
Trump refuses to say Giuliani is still his lawyer 😂


Gee, Donnie has made similar remarks about people in his administration, and every time they are gone with a week....

Trebuchet 11th October 2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by C_Felix (Post 12853015)
Shep Smith is out at Fox.

Less than 24 hours after Barr had a meeting with Murdoch.
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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 12853027)
WOW!

As for Rudy - I think he will last forever - though he will wind down, someone will pull the string his back, like I used to do with my Woody Woodpecker puppet.

The problem is his mechanism is broken, so you don't know what he's going to say. He's as likely as not to accidentally rat you out.
Hope he enjoys Club Fed.

dudalb 11th October 2019 05:35 PM

Even for Trump, having an attorney whose is under criminal investigation is a really bad look you should not have.

alfaniner 11th October 2019 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12853122)
Less than 24 hours after Barr had a meeting with Murdoch.

And shortly after The PDJT said Fox News polls suck. He must have thought that Shep created them because he reported them, and wanted him gone from his network.

dudalb 11th October 2019 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12853122)
Less than 24 hours after Barr had a meeting with Murdoch.

The problem is his mechanism is broken, so you don't know what he's going to say. He's as likely as not to accidentally rat you out.
Hope he enjoys Club Fed.

As a couple of people have said, he had a very bright political future after 9/11,..was considered Presendential Timber (I read that the Democratic party was making definent attempts to get him to change parties) but he has ended up a national joke and facing criminal charges. Pretty tragic, and he brought it on himself.

a_unique_person 11th October 2019 10:46 PM

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Acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan is stepping down from that position, President Trump announced Friday night.
"Kevin now, after many years in Government, wants to spend more time with his family and go to the private sector," Trump tweeted shortly before taking the stage at a rally in Lake Charles, La. "Congratulations Kevin, on a job well done!"
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-to-leave-post


All those years of hard work and he never got past acting secretary.

Craig4 12th October 2019 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12852855)
This is what is sad, really.
As one person said, "From America's Mayor To Trump's Chump".

For someone else, yes it would be sad. Because Rudy is a Trump supporter, his destruction is funny.

quadraginta 12th October 2019 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12853504)
For someone else, yes it would be sad. Because Rudy is a Trump supporter, his destruction is funny.


It's funny because he brought it on himself. Eyes wide open, making conscious choices every step of the way.

And unlike Trump he doesn't have the excuse of being stupid, congenitally incompetent, and totally ignorant of how politics works, and what crosses the line from ethical to unethical and legal to illegal.

He could have stepped down from mayor and had a great career and left an excellent record.

Now he'll go down in history as just another one of Trump's mouthpieces, dirty deeds errand boys, and patsies.

Matthew Ellard 12th October 2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoosh (Post 12853046)
He said he won’t be “reporting”for a for anyone else in the near future, but that’s lot of wiggle room.

Generally, in his existing contract, there would be a moratorium, for a fixed period, before he could work for a competing network. As he negotiated his way out of his existing contract, it would seem probable that he accepted a condition that this moratorium period would extend past the 2020 election period.

I imagine, Lachlan Murdoch, who is concerned that revenue will collapse if Trump is ousted in 2020, would keep an open door to bring him back after the 2020 election as "a journalist of integrity". (Or alternatively Murdoch is going to maximise revenue in the next year and sell off Murrdoch's interest in Fox asap)

It seem to me that the Murdoch's should have kept 20th Century Fox film division (entertainment) rather than sell that off, to increase shareholdings in Fox News. Entertainment is always more resilient in political and economic change.

dudalb 12th October 2019 07:06 PM

Trump issued a statement in suuport of Giuliani...but we have snen this before...Trump going back and forth on a member of his adminstration. in the end, the guyi in question has always been thrown under the bus in the end.

thaiboxerken 13th October 2019 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12853106)
Shepard SMith just said Fox's prime time lineup "was more then he could stand"

You ain't the only one, Shepard...

He should have blasted the network for enabling all of the lies and propaganda of the White House and GOP. He was way too nice in his resignation announcement.

The Great Zaganza 13th October 2019 12:46 AM

I'm not sure Fox would really want to battle it out in court if Shepard joined another network.

thaiboxerken 13th October 2019 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12854098)
Trump issued a statement in suuport of Giuliani...but we have snen this before...Trump going back and forth on a member of his adminstration. in the end, the guyi in question has always been thrown under the bus in the end.

I have to wonder why there are still those loyal to Trump. He has a history of throwing everyone under the bus. Loyalty is only one-way with Trump.

Norman Alexander 13th October 2019 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12853164)
Even for Trump, having an attorney whose is under criminal investigation is a really bad look you should not have.

And for a president of the United States of America, it's gob-smackingly awful.

Norman Alexander 13th October 2019 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12854241)
I have to wonder why there are still those loyal to Trump. He has a history of throwing everyone under the bus. Loyalty is only one-way with Trump.

Unless you can dig up some dirt on the Bidens in the immediate future. Given Trump can't tell fact from fiction these days, I'm sure the remaining toadies are concocting a whole lot of fairy tales like this to stay on Jabba's good side.

alfaniner 13th October 2019 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 12854240)
I'm not sure Fox would really want to battle it out in court if Shepard joined another network.

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12854239)
He should have blasted the network for enabling all of the lies and propaganda of the White House and GOP. He was way too nice in his resignation announcement.

I'm hoping to see him show up on one of the CNN shows as a guest spilling all the beans. I don't think that would violate his non-compete clause.

dudalb 13th October 2019 01:29 PM

Smith is also free to write articles and books. I think lots of stuff is going to come to light.

Doubt 13th October 2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12853624)
It's funny because he brought it on himself. Eyes wide open, making conscious choices every step of the way.

And unlike Trump he doesn't have the excuse of being stupid, congenitally incompetent, and totally ignorant of how politics works, and what crosses the line from ethical to unethical and legal to illegal.

He could have stepped down from mayor and had a great career and left an excellent record.

Now he'll go down in history as just another one of Trump's mouthpieces, dirty deeds errand boys, and patsies.

He may be doing a Pierre Salinger. The guy pissed away his reputation in old age by buying into a conspiracy theory about TWA 800. Giuliani may be suffering from a cognitive decline.

However the unethical nature of his activities makes it hard to feel sad for him.

quadraginta 13th October 2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12854241)
I have to wonder why there are still those loyal to Trump. He has a history of throwing everyone under the bus. Loyalty is only one-way with Trump.


They never expect the leopard to eat their face.

Which goes a long way to explaining why they are Republicans in the first place.

Foolmewunz 13th October 2019 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by quadraginta (Post 12854719)
They never expect the leopard to eat their face.

Which goes a long way to explaining why they are Republicans in the first place.

The money quote on this was during the manufactured shut-down/border funding emergency when one of the trailer trash brigade said that the shutdown was making it hard on her "He's not hurting the RIGHT people." When the article first appeared I was critical of the reporter for not hammering home the obvious follow-up, "Just who are the right people who you want to see screwed on the job front?", I decided it's a perfect dangling quote to close the discussion with because it describes the face-eating-leopard-syndrome to a tee.

dudalb 13th October 2019 09:13 PM

Reports that even his White House staffers think Giuliani has become a huge liablltiy and should go. but Trump seems reluctant to pull the trigger.

Babbylonian 13th October 2019 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12854982)
Reports that even his White House staffers think Giuliani has become a huge liablltiy and should go. but Trump seems reluctant to pull the trigger.

Probably because he'll finally get Rudy's bill.

Foolmewunz 13th October 2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12854982)
Reports that even his White House staffers think Giuliani has become a huge liablltiy and should go. but Trump seems reluctant to pull the trigger.

No! I want him to give a few more interviews clearly implicating Barr and Pompeo. Rudy's the gift that keeps on giving. Just wind him up and put him in front of a microphone

The Great Zaganza 13th October 2019 09:24 PM

Rudi will get hired by the Trump Campaign, just like everybody else.

CapelDodger 14th October 2019 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12854298)
Unless you can dig up some dirt on the Bidens in the immediate future. Given Trump can't tell fact from fiction these days, I'm sure the remaining toadies are concocting a whole lot of fairy tales like this to stay on Jabba's good side.

I expect to see them chasing red herrings of their own devising just so they look busy when the boss walks by.

(The term "red herring" is really dated, and should perhaps be replaced. I suggest "DNC server" as a more contemporary alternative.)

Craig4 14th October 2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken (Post 12854241)
I have to wonder why there are still those loyal to Trump. He has a history of throwing everyone under the bus. Loyalty is only one-way with Trump.

I imagine that there is a certain arrogance in some of them that causes them to think they are the one plaything the petulant toddler won't tire of.

Norman Alexander 14th October 2019 11:30 PM

My betting is firming on Giuliani.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...chment-inquiry
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Trump-Ukraine: John Bolton 'sounded alarm about Giuliani's actions'

Fiona Hill testifies that Bolton called Giuliani a ‘hand grenade’
Hill says Bolton likened lawyer’s operation to a ‘drug deal’

d4m10n 15th October 2019 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 12856052)
My betting is firming on Giuliani.

He doesn't work at the White House ;)

a_unique_person 15th October 2019 04:35 AM

:) OK, he does political work for Trump who lives in the White House.

The Great Zaganza 15th October 2019 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12856222)
He doesn't work at the White House ;)

According to Rudi, he works for the State Department, ... and Trump, ... and the White House, ... and the Justice League.

Craig4 15th October 2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 12856241)
:) OK, he does political work for Trump who lives in the White House.

I suspect Rudy has met with Trump in the Whitehouse more than Ben Carson has.

Trebuchet 15th October 2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12856911)
I suspect Rudy has met with Trump in the Whitehouse more than Ben Carson has.

But does he have a picture on his wall of himself with Jesus?

Norman Alexander 15th October 2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12856222)
He doesn't work at the White House ;)

To be fair, none of them do.

dudalb 16th October 2019 01:43 PM

WAPO reports that Mulvaney was the lead person on Trump's Ukraine policy.
Given his already weakened standing with the White House staff and GOP leaders in general, I think he might be tied with Rudy on the 'most likely to be next to go under the bus" list.

Norman Alexander 16th October 2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12858080)
WAPO reports that Mulvaney was the lead person on Trump's Ukraine policy.
Given his already weakened standing with the White House staff and GOP leaders in general, I think he might be tied with Rudy on the 'most likely to be next to go under the bus" list.

They could be a pair going sub-omnibus. Would that be a first?

Trebuchet 16th October 2019 08:33 PM

How many degrees of separation are we allowed? How about Rudy's now-ex attorney?

Norman Alexander 16th October 2019 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet (Post 12858391)
How many degrees of separation are we allowed? How about Rudy's now-ex attorney?

Given The Mooch lasted only 10 days, did this guy last longer than that?

Foolmewunz 17th October 2019 12:41 AM

Speaking of ex-attorneys,... how long will Gowdy last if he actually falls back on any actual "legal" advice instead of sucking up and saying "No, no, you're right Don Donaldo, you can do anything you want because you're the president."

Doubt 17th October 2019 05:19 AM

Rudy: You wanted to see me Mr. President?

Donald: Yes Rudy. No, don't sit down. This won't take long.

Rudy: What is it, Mr. President?

Donald: These two gentlemen need a guide to the nearest bus stop. I'd like you to show it to them.

Rudy: They seem like they could find it themselves.

Donald: I really want you to show it to them. Up Close. Wait with them till the bus shows up.

Rudy: Okay. I will be right back after they are on the bus. Straight back to your office.

Donald: No, that won't be necessary at all.

Rudy: Then I will call you next week.

Donald: Sure Rudy. Next week. Everything will be fine after you meet the bus.......

d4m10n 17th October 2019 02:06 PM

Dept. of I-forget-the-other-one seeking new leadership, for real this time.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1184936650092302348

dudalb 17th October 2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by d4m10n (Post 12859334)
Dept. of I-forget-the-other-one seeking new leadership, for real this time.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1184936650092302348

And Perry is no doubt lawyering up as we speak.

Craig4 17th October 2019 05:20 PM

And Mulvaney is ******. That is unless today was an effort to **** Trump on the way out the door. The disgusting little Leprechaun bastard wouldn't be the first to have their way with Trump on while trying to keep the screen door from hitting them in the ass.

dudalb 17th October 2019 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 12859558)
And Mulvaney is ******. That is unless today was an effort to **** Trump on the way out the door. The disgusting little Leprechaun bastard wouldn't be the first to have their way with Trump on while trying to keep the screen door from hitting them in the ass.


Mulvaney just tried to walk back his admission on the Ukraine "I deny saying what I just said on Camera in front of God and everybody".
It is to make one laugh, really.
Flash. One of Trump's real lawyers...not TV Lawyer Rudy just said that Mulvaney did not clear his intial statement with the White House legal staff.
Read what you will into that.

acbytesla 17th October 2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dudalb (Post 12859441)
And Perry is no doubt lawyering up as we speak.

Perry leaving is really bizarre. Rumor has it that he was going to step down next year any way and work in the private sector. Whic probably means some oil companies will pay him for the policies he implemented at the DOE. You know, give him a huge consulting contract where he basically gets sent a big check every month.

The question is what was his involvement.


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