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Skeptic Ginger 2nd December 2020 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziggurat (Post 13312649)
Deliberately forging documents is "a little sloppy"? That's an understatement.

It's sloppy. No one checks, everyone does it, not sure when the quality of work deteriorated...

You can find this crap is any organization that's big enough.

Bogative 10th December 2020 09:02 PM

Hunter and Jim Biden are under federal investigation for fraud and tax evasion.

******* Putin!!! is at it again with all these Russian disinformation campaigns. Can the Bidens ever catch a break?

Resume 10th December 2020 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13322646)
Hunter and Jim Biden are under federal investigation for fraud and tax evasion.

******* Putin!!! is at it again with all these Russian disinformation campaigns. Can the Bidens ever catch a break?

Well, a Biden was just elected president, so there's that.

Norman Alexander 10th December 2020 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13322646)
Hunter and Jim Biden are under federal investigation for being questioned in relation to somebody else's fraud and tax evasion and bankruptcy.

******* Putin!!! is at it again with all these Russian disinformation campaigns. Can the Bidens ever catch a break?

Correction.

The Great Zaganza 10th December 2020 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13322646)
Hunter and Jim Biden are under federal investigation for fraud and tax evasion.

******* Putin!!! is at it again with all these Russian disinformation campaigns. Can the Bidens ever catch a break?

notice how the Bidens don't scream 'With HUNT!' into every microphone they can find?

Stacyhs 10th December 2020 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13322740)
notice how the Bidens don't scream 'With HUNT!' into every microphone they can find?

Yeah, I did notice that.

Norman Alexander 10th December 2020 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza (Post 13322740)
notice how the Bidens don't scream 'Witch HUNT!' into every microphone they can find?

In fact, Hunter is complying promptly and fully with official information requests, as is his brother. Also not advertised widely.

Unlike certain presidents we could name who have been dodging such requests for years.

Stacyhs 10th December 2020 11:52 PM

Nor are they tweeting about it like deranged paranoid schizophrenics or calling up sycophantic TV pundits complaining about what victims they are.

Firestone 11th December 2020 12:43 AM

Most amazing in this story is Barr's role: "Attorney General William Barr has known about a disparate set of investigations involving Hunter Bidenís business and financial dealings since at least this spring, a person familiar with the matter said, and worked to avoid their public disclosure during the heated election campaign."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/barr-wo...mobilewebshare

Bogative 11th December 2020 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13322649)
Well, a Biden was just elected president, so there's that.


True, but is that a positive or a negative to the Bidens? Now that China Joe is back in high office his name has power and influence to sell, but will his junkie son and brother be brave enough to cash in on it?

Will the "big guy" still get his 10% cut if they do?

wareyin 11th December 2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13323561)
True, but is that a positive or a negative to the Bidens? Now that China Joe is back in high office his name has power and influence to sell, but will his junkie son and brother be brave enough to cash in on it?

Will the "big guy" still get his 10% cut if they do?

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

Resume 11th December 2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13323561)
Now that China Joe

Did you have any misgivings when China awarded the Trump crew 24 trademarks right after Diaper Don's meeting with Xi?

Stacyhs 11th December 2020 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13323584)
Did you have any misgivings when China awarded the Trump crew 24 trademarks right after Diaper Don's meeting with Xi?

Oh, well...I'm sure that was different for....reasons.

p0lka 11th December 2020 06:20 PM

I thought this was about the Mandalorian, oops sorry.

Bogative 11th December 2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Resume (Post 13323584)
Did you have any misgivings when China awarded the Trump crew 24 trademarks right after Diaper Don's meeting with Xi?


No more than I have for the 77 they received before he was elected president.

Resume 11th December 2020 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13323600)
No more than I have for the 77 they received before he was elected president.

So his faux tough guy anti-China stance was just a front, or a con for his supporters so he could continue grifting?

I get it.

Darat 12th December 2020 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacyhs (Post 13323586)
Oh, well...I'm sure that was different for....reasons.

Yeah the difference is D.

Captain_Swoop 12th December 2020 07:02 AM

Trump Tweets

A big disappointment!
Quote Tweet

toddstarnes
@toddstarnes
If the Wall Street Journal story is true and Attorney General Barr knew in the spring about the Biden investigation and kept it quiet -- he should be fired by the end of business today.

Craig4 12th December 2020 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogative (Post 13322646)
Hunter and Jim Biden are under federal investigation for fraud and tax evasion.

******* Putin!!! is at it again with all these Russian disinformation campaigns. Can the Bidens ever catch a break?

I don't recall either Hunter or Jim Biden being on the ballot. It's odd that this seems to bother you when you're okay with Trump who was a filthy Russian whore.

Skeptic Ginger 12th December 2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13324030)
I don't recall either Hunter or Jim Biden being on the ballot. It's odd that this seems to bother you when you're okay with Trump who was a filthy Russian whore.

Not to mention blatantly corrupt and suggesting he may need to pardon his kids for crimes yet to be publicly uncovered.

Captain_Swoop 12th December 2020 09:07 AM

Trump Tweets

Why didn’t Bill Barr reveal the truth to the public, before the Election, about Hunter Biden. Joe was lying on the debate stage that nothing was wrong, or going on - Press confirmed. Big disadvantage for Republicans at the polls!

Dave Rogers 12th December 2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13324062)
Trump Tweets

Why didnít Bill Barr reveal the truth to the public, before the Election, about Hunter Biden. Joe was lying on the debate stage that nothing was wrong, or going on - Press confirmed. Big disadvantage for Republicans at the polls!

Classy. He's complaining that Barr didn't release information on an ongoing criminal investigation to him in time for him to use it in a smear campaign against Biden. The whole concept of integrity is so far beyond him that he doesn't even feel he has to pretend to have any.

Dave

Hercules56 12th December 2020 11:55 AM

Trump got his #Winning October Surprise in 2016.

Only one per President, sorry Don.

Skeptic Ginger 12th December 2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13324062)
Trump Tweets

Why didnít Bill Barr reveal the truth to the public, before the Election, about Hunter Biden. Joe was lying on the debate stage that nothing was wrong, or going on - Press confirmed. Big disadvantage for Republicans at the polls!

He's collecting excuses.

Darat 12th December 2020 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13324360)
He's collecting excuses.

Be interesting (for certain definitions of the word) to see what excuse his delusions will lead him to settle on.

Babbylonian 12th December 2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13324363)
Be interesting (for certain definitions of the word) to see what excuse his delusions will lead him to settle on.

He'll never settle for one. His excuse will always be the most recent one he notices in his Twitter feed.

a_unique_person 12th December 2020 03:29 PM

I want to see him fire Barr

eerok 12th December 2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 13324393)
I want to see him fire Barr

I don't know what to think of Barr. He seemed like such a Trump toadie for a long while, and then he started doing the right thing. It's confusing. I'd just as soon he stay for the end at this point, though.

dirtywick 12th December 2020 03:56 PM

Bill Barr got his termination date on Nov 3

dirtywick 12th December 2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13324405)
I don't know what to think of Barr. He seemed like such a Trump toadie for a long while, and then he started doing the right thing. It's confusing. I'd just as soon he stay for the end at this point, though.

Everyone has their limits. Barrís are just not what we thought they were

Norman Alexander 12th December 2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13323973)
Trump Tweets

A big disappointment!
Quote Tweet

toddstarnes
@toddstarnes
If the Wall Street Journal story is true and Attorney General Barr knew in the spring about the Biden investigation and kept it quiet -- he should be fired by the end of business today.

Quote:

Fox News Parts Ways With Far-Right Host Todd Starnes

GOOD RIDDANCE

The conservative talking head is best-known for his incendiary anti-LGBT, xenophobic, and racist remarks both on-air, across Fox News programming and on his Fox Nation and Fox News Radio shows, and in his FoxNews.com columns...

...Starnes also has a long history of erroneous reporting, having once been fired from Baptist Press over “factual and contextual errors” and “misrepresentations.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-ne...t-todd-starnes

Skeptic Ginger 12th December 2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Darat (Post 13324363)
Be interesting (for certain definitions of the word) to see what excuse his delusions will lead him to settle on.

He doesn't need one. He can spout whichever one or more fit the moment.

Skeptic Ginger 12th December 2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13324405)
I don't know what to think of Barr. He seemed like such a Trump toadie for a long while, and then he started doing the right thing. [recognized the Trump train was on a rail that disappeared off a bridge into a canyon.] ...

ftfy

He has been trying to shift sides and claim he was always a reasonable guy for a few months now. As for not pursuing the Biden case in hopes of affecting the election, again, I'm not sure when he recognized Trump's chances didn't look good, but from my POV, he would have had to stick his neck out and could be there isn't a whole lot to the Biden case except maybe some tax fraud.

Barr would have looked like he was a Trump toadie and that's when he realized he had a lot to lose and little to gain.

Skeptic Ginger 12th December 2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander (Post 13324437)

That's dated Oct 2.

Mader Levap 12th December 2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13324405)
I don't know what to think of Barr. He seemed like such a Trump toadie for a long while, and then he started doing the right thing. It's confusing. I'd just as soon he stay for the end at this point, though.

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Originally Posted by dirtywick (Post 13324429)
Everyone has their limits. Barrís are just not what we thought they were

He serves rethuglicans first and foremost, not Trump. That he flipped bird to Trump does not make him a good human.

eerok 12th December 2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mader Levap (Post 13324503)
He serves rethuglicans first and foremost, not Trump. That he flipped bird to Trump does not make him a good human.

I never imagined Barr to be a good human, but I think he turned out to be a better human than I thought he was. It's not a high bar. So to speak.

dirtywick 12th December 2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mader Levap (Post 13324503)
He serves rethuglicans first and foremost, not Trump. That he flipped bird to Trump does not make him a good human.

it wasnít obvious who he was looking out for or how far he would go. Heís done plenty of questionable things in the past at Trumps request to help Trump.

Either way I think youíre wrong. He had a clear, and personally consequence free, chance to damage Biden and help Trump, and the R party, by smearing Biden with Hunter allegations and helping Trump win the election. He didnít do it.

Darat 12th December 2020 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13324405)
I don't know what to think of Barr. He seemed like such a Trump toadie for a long while, and then he started doing the right thing. It's confusing. I'd just as soon he stay for the end at this point, though.

Clue, rearrange these words to make a popular saying "wall writing the on the"

;)

Norman Alexander 12th December 2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger (Post 13324500)
That's dated Oct 2.

Indeed. Mr Starnes was too insanely extreme for Fox even before they dropped Donny.

The Great Zaganza 12th December 2020 10:10 PM

The reason Barr kept the Hunter investigation hidden from Trump was to make a conviction possible.
If Trump had made a public spectacle of it, no judge could have found an unbiased jury.
Barr did not do the Bidens any favors.


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