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arthwollipot 18th April 2022 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cullennz (Post 13784071)
Think purely memory 20 years ago it was called Aikodo or something

That would be Aikido? That's not Tae Kwon Do. It's not even from the same country.

8enotto 18th April 2022 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13786184)
Putin should give his weapons to Zelinski since he wants them, it is not living as good people to have weapons.

The world is full of bad people then. And everyone with gardening tools is potentially bad.

Is there a rake or hoe in your garden shed?

The Man 19th April 2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13786184)
Putin should give his weapons to Zelinski since he wants them....

They didn't want the nuclear weapons and still don't, that's why they gave them up and signed the NPT. What they wanted was sovereignty from Russia but Russia evidently doesn't want that and probably never did, but it did want them to give up those nuclear weapons.

So that's why the Russians are there, to hand over all their weapons to the Ukrainians, but they just can't keep 'em from going off?

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13786184)
...,it is not living as good people to have weapons.

What the heck is that even suppose to mean, that only bad people should have weapons? As already noted multiple times just about anything can be a weapon so you are simply asserting that there is just no "living as good people".

Since bad people have weapons and are more than willing to use them, as history dictates. Good people or not, without weapons odds are against you just living, period.

qayak 19th April 2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by arthwollipot (Post 13786186)
That would be Aikido? That's not Tae Kwon Do. It's not even from the same country.

If you say it hapkido then the country part aligns.

trustbutverify 19th April 2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13786184)
Putin should give his weapons to Zelinski since he wants them, it is not living as good people to have weapons.

Good idea. Next, Putin could rescind orders for troops to systematically rape 14 year old Ukrainian girls, and place a moratorium on poisoning his dissenters.

Gaetan 21st April 2022 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 13787002)
Good idea. Next, Putin could rescind orders for troops to systematically rape 14 year old Ukrainian girls, and place a moratorium on poisoning his dissenters.

What your medias says about Russia they won't say it about your country but they do the same, there is no difference between a humans.

Carrot Flower King 21st April 2022 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788252)
What your medias says about Russia they won't say it about your country but they do the same, there is no difference between a humans.

So, not at all familiar with what the British media has said about our governments, officials and organisations through my adult life that I definitely know of (I'm in my 60s)?

Gaetan 21st April 2022 04:14 AM

The unjust blame others to do what they do

jimbob 21st April 2022 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788281)
The unjust blame others to do what they do

{Jim checks up thread and finds you have blamed a lot of people}

Gaetan 21st April 2022 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 13788283)
{Jim checks up thread and finds you have blamed a lot of people}

Can you put thread where i blame people while doing the samething.

trustbutverify 21st April 2022 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788281)
The unjust blame others to do what they do

Then stop blaming people for doing what you do... simple.

trustbutverify 21st April 2022 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788252)
What your medias says about Russia they won't say it about your country but they do the same, there is no difference between a humans.

I don't have media, I'm speaking for myself. Unlike you, I oppose systematic rape of 14 year old girls. Maybe it's time for you to stop worshipping Putin.

eerok 21st April 2022 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788252)
What your medias says about Russia they won't say it about your country but they do the same

That is a lie. We would all condemn any country that invaded a sovereign nation and murdered civilians to promote terror.

Your nonsense is disgusting.

eerok 21st April 2022 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788281)
The unjust blame others to do what they do

And all you have are lies.

Gaetan 21st April 2022 12:43 PM

Joe Biden, Trudeau, Johnson and Macron are the joy of arm businessmen

eerok 21st April 2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788799)
Joe Biden, Trudeau, Johnson and Macron are the joy of arm businessmen

Putin is a monster, and you defend him.

The murder of Ukrainians would end if he just took his marauding thugs and went home.

Gaetan 21st April 2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eerok (Post 13788813)

The murder of Ukrainians

This is all the fault of Trudeau, Biden, Johnson, Macron and Zelinski.

eerok 21st April 2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788818)
This is all the fault of Trudeau, Biden, Johnson, Macron and Zelinski.

What nonsense. Putin is a monster and a murderer. The West wants him to stop killing innocent civilians in Ukraine.

You should wake up to reality.

trustbutverify 21st April 2022 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788818)
This is all the fault of Trudeau, Biden, Johnson, Macron and Zelinski.

Zelinski is a fine leader. These atrocities belong to Putin, Lavrov and Gaetan. War criminals all.

bruto 21st April 2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788818)
This is all the fault of Trudeau, Biden, Johnson, Macron and Zelinski.

The excuse of five year olds for hitting their sisters, and wife beaters for being ********, it's just the right speed for Putin's admirers. Adults tend to think a little past that.

The Man 23rd April 2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788252)
What your medias says about Russia they won't say it about your country but they do the same, there is no difference between a humans.

While this is perhaps your major misunderstanding. There are plenty of differences between humans. Not everyone acts or thinks the same as you do, as I do or as anyone else does. This is why when confronted with people who would not think or act like you, you presume they must be lying or 'crezy'. You just need to get out more and don't presume people must be like you.

The Man 23rd April 2022 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788281)
The unjust blame others to do what they do

So stop blaming Ukraine for doing what your country does, having weapons.

The Man 23rd April 2022 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788333)
Can you put thread where i blame people while doing the samething.

It's your whole schtick, exactly how many threads are there where you blame people for using money, and the ills of the world on that use, yet you use money yourself?

The Man 23rd April 2022 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788818)
This is all the fault of Trudeau, Biden, Johnson, Macron and Zelinski.

What of Putin, does he not bear a more direct responsibility than all the others, combined?

Craig4 23rd April 2022 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13788799)
Joe Biden, Trudeau, Johnson and Macron are the joy of arm businessmen

Who pulled the triggers? Who had the weapon in their hand and pulled the triggers killing Ukrainians with hands tied behind their backs?

Gaetan 23rd April 2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Man (Post 13790198)
What of Putin, does he not bear a more direct responsibility than all the others, combined?

If it wouldn't be the conspiracy of the NATO leaders and Zelinski the misery of Ukrainians wouldn't exist and would live peacefully. A guy is sick, he his sick, you should blame what causes his sickness.

The Man 23rd April 2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13790337)
If it wouldn't be the conspiracy of the NATO leaders and Zelinski the misery of Ukrainians wouldn't exist and would live peacefully. A guy is sick, he his sick, you should blame what causes his sickness.

So the person initiating the violence and invading holds no responsibility?

How would the current "misery of Ukrainians" even exist if Putin didn't invade?

Gaetan 23rd April 2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Man (Post 13790340)
So the person initiating the violence and invading holds no responsibility?

How would the current "misery of Ukrainians" even exist if Putin didn't invade?

What causes it are the NATO leaders and Zelinski conspiracy.

cullennz 23rd April 2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by arthwollipot (Post 13786186)
That would be Aikido? That's not Tae Kwon Do. It's not even from the same country.

I meant the dude did both.

I never said one was the same as the other.

FFS

The Man 23rd April 2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13790345)
What causes it are the NATO leaders and Zelinski conspiracy.

They didn't invade anyone. Since Putin did invade was he part of your "conspiracy"?

Craig4 23rd April 2022 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13790345)
What causes it are the NATO leaders and Zelinski conspiracy.

No what NATO and the Ukrainians are causing is lots of dead Russians. That's a good thing. It's good for Ukrainians to kill Russian invaders. If the Russians don't like it, all they have to do is leave. Ukrainians wouldn't be killing Russians if the Russians weren't in Ukraine.

trustbutverify 24th April 2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13790345)
What causes it are the NATO leaders and Zelinski conspiracy.

What causes it are Putin and his international cabal of cheerleading twats.

Gaetan 29th April 2022 06:43 PM

It is unacceptable that Justin Trudeau sent journalists from Radio Canada to do anti-Russian propaganda tourism with the money from our taxes in Ukraine to make people believe that sending weapons is justified when it is precisely the weapons in this country who are the cause of the misery of the Ukrainians.

trustbutverify 29th April 2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13795087)
It is unacceptable that Justin Trudeau sent journalists from Radio Canada to do anti-Russian propaganda tourism with the money from our taxes in Ukraine to make people believe that sending weapons is justified when it is precisely the weapons in this country who are the cause of the misery of the Ukrainians.

Your hero is now threatening to nuke Ukraine due to his current public humiliation. Congratulations.

Craig4 29th April 2022 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13795087)
It is unacceptable that Justin Trudeau sent journalists from Radio Canada to do anti-Russian propaganda tourism with the money from our taxes in Ukraine to make people believe that sending weapons is justified when it is precisely the weapons in this country who are the cause of the misery of the Ukrainians.

I am proud of the fact that through my tax dollars, I have the blood of Russian soldiers on my hands. I hope it goes all the way up to my elbows.

Did you see where Germans, Poles and Bulgarians all sent tanks and other armored vehicles to Ukraine so they can use them to kill Russians? If the Russians want to go on living, all they have to do is leave. They may have to kill their officers first but no big loss.

Gaetan 30th April 2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig4 (Post 13795131)
I am proud of the fact that through my tax dollars, I have the blood of Russian soldiers on my hands. I hope it goes all the way up to my elbows.

Did you see where Germans, Poles and Bulgarians all sent tanks and other armored vehicles to Ukraine so they can use them to kill Russians? If the Russians want to go on living, all they have to do is leave. They may have to kill their officers first but no big loss.

I am disappointed that you let your government put blood on your hand without protesting

Jack by the hedge 30th April 2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13795087)
... it is precisely the weapons in this country who are the cause of the misery of the Ukrainians.

It's the Russian weapons in Ukraine which are causing misery and suffering and death to Ukrainians.

If the people firing them would just **** off back home to Russia, the war would stop.

Gaetan 30th April 2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge (Post 13795358)
It's the Russian weapons in Ukraine which are causing misery and suffering and death to Ukrainians.

The russian weapons are there because the Ukrainians and NATO weapons are there.

Jack by the hedge 30th April 2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaetan (Post 13795361)
The russian weapons are there because the Ukrainians and NATO weapons are there.

The Russian weapons are there in the hands of Russians soldiers who have come to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians.

The weapons NATO countries have supplied to Ukraine are for the defence of Ukraine and obviously not for Ukraine to attack Russia because that would be insane and obviously Ukraine had no desire whatever to do that, only to defend itself from yet another Russian attack, which you may have noticed is exactly what Russia is doing right now.

bruto 30th April 2022 03:34 PM

To blame the invaded for the invasion and the weapons that arrived later for being there when they weren't, is like a cop who beats up a citizen then arrests him for resisting arrest when he puts his hands in front of his face. Gaetan missed his calling.


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