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Vixen 14th June 2021 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13501272)
I see the DUP has seen it's first resignations. Who knew Poots would be such a liability?
It seems my presentation in Belfast two-and-a-half years ago, that got be practically run out of town, erred on the side of optimism.

Dairy of a Nobody, featuring Pooter, is quite prescient in this respect.

Vixen 14th June 2021 12:28 AM

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Civil servants have been told to ensure that senior cabinet ministers to be provisioned with personalised army, police & transport uniforms when making public media appearances in these areas.

Thid is to transmit “authority & patriotism”.


Just needs the medals...

Vixen 14th June 2021 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13505225)
The alliance between the US and the UK should be known as the "indestructible relationship", Boris Johnson has told the BBC after meeting US President Joe Biden for the first time.

He said he had "terrific" talks with Mr Biden, who has travelled to Cornwall for the G7 summit of world leaders.

Mr Johnson insisted the US president had not rebuked him over post-Brexit tensions in Northern Ireland.

However, Mr Biden is said to have "deep concern" over the situation.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57436035


This probably means we will be at war by the end of the month.



I believe there was an Atlantic Charter, likened to Churchill and Roosevelt?

Who knew that in due course with the passing of history Johnson will fall in the category of a Great Statesman? Bravely plunging into the brisk waves that lap Cornwall's shores, like a latterday Vladimir Putin taking a New year dip in the Arctic and riding bare chested and bare backed on his mighty stead {That's enough ~ Ed }

Vixen 14th June 2021 12:38 AM

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Any guesses what form of transport Boris used to get to Cornwall (part of mainland UK, for those unfamiliar), to talk about climate change?

Yoo-hoo!

Vixen 14th June 2021 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by theprestige (Post 13507463)
I thought the UK abdicated from world power intentionally and virtuously.

Right. That's it. So now even the Americans are laughing at us.

Vixen 14th June 2021 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13507486)
First night of GB News channel looks good
8.00 News with Jim Davidson
8.30 Laurence Fox on racism
9.00 Mrs Browns Boys
10.30 Black & White Minstrel show
11.30 Migrant Watch Live! with Nigel Farage

Opportunity Knocks! with Lizzie Truss
Double Your Money with Hughie Sunak
Take Your Pick with Michael Frost
Countdown with Carol Whitty
Crackerjack! with Leslie Jenrick
Who Wants to be a Millionaire - Chris lack of Talent-Mogg
Dad's Army with Prati Patel


Oldies but Goldies!

catsmate 14th June 2021 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vixen (Post 13507721)
We have North Macedonia*. So not too far-fetched.


*Hands up anyone who knows where this is, without looking.

I do. :)
I've been there. In Ye Olde Days when it FYROM.
In fact, to be technically exact, I also visited it when it was part of the NYFSOY.

GlennB 14th June 2021 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vixen (Post 13507721)
We have North Macedonia*. So not too far-fetched.


*Hands up anyone who knows where this is, without looking.

In the West Midlands, with a Birmingham post code?

Worm 14th June 2021 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vixen (Post 13507721)
We have North Macedonia*. So not too far-fetched.


*Hands up anyone who knows where this is, without looking.

:w2:

Former Yugoslav state, east of Albania and north of Greece. Was just called 'Macedonia' until fairly recently, but I think Greece objected to them using the name unadorned as 'Macedonia' also refers to a region of Greece, and an ancient nation.

They have a belting flag, and the outline looks a bit like a potato :)

(I spend far too long on Sporcle geography quizzes...)

Captain_Swoop 15th June 2021 02:31 PM

Ikea, Octopus Energy, cider firm Kopparberg, and other brands have withdrawn advertising from GB News after the channel's launch on Sunday.

Kopparberg said the advert ran "without our knowledge" and it was undertaking a review of the channel's content.

Octopus said it would only run ads in future if the news channel proved "genuinely balanced".

A post on the Kopparberg Twitter account said: "Kopparberg is a drink for everyone and we have immediately suspended our ads from this channel pending further review of its content."

Greg Jackson, founder of Octopus Energy, said the company does not advertise on "platforms whose primary purpose is the distribution of hate" and said it would only run adverts on new channels after watching their output for a period of time.

Ikea said it had suspended its advertising, and had not knowingly booked slots on the channel. It said it had safeguards to prevent ads appearing on platforms which are not in line with the company's "humanistic values".

The Open University and Ovo Energy also said they were pausing advertising, which they said had been placed by a media partnership without their knowledge.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-57483907

Captain_Swoop 16th June 2021 02:42 AM

2 days of broadcasting and GB News has lost 6 major advertisers.
The right are going out of their minds.
At this rate they are going to have to start paying companies to advertise.

They do have some viewers left though. Yesterday both Mike Hunt and Mike Oxlong managed to get their comments on air.

Vixen 16th June 2021 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13510222)
2 days of broadcasting and GB News has lost 6 major advertisers.
The right are going out of their minds.
At this rate they are going to have to start paying companies to advertise.

They do have some viewers left though. Yesterday both Mike Hunt and Mike Oxlong managed to get their comments on air.

Julie Burchill is currently looking for a job.

Vixen 16th June 2021 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Worm (Post 13507797)
:w2:

Former Yugoslav state, east of Albania and north of Greece. Was just called 'Macedonia' until fairly recently, but I think Greece objected to them using the name unadorned as 'Macedonia' also refers to a region of Greece, and an ancient nation.

They have a belting flag, and the outline looks a bit like a potato :)

(I spend far too long on Sporcle geography quizzes...)

I almost had a migraine watching that game, with that oddly eccentric flag.

Captain_Swoop 16th June 2021 03:11 PM

Government or a TV station, why are the right in the U.K. always so reliably unprofessional?

Captain_Swoop 16th June 2021 03:14 PM

Laurence Fox is handing back his Crime Writers' Association 'Golden Dagger' award as Specsavers the award sponsors have pulled their advertising from the GB News channel.

a_unique_person 16th June 2021 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13510222)
2 days of broadcasting and GB News has lost 6 major advertisers.
The right are going out of their minds.
At this rate they are going to have to start paying companies to advertise.

They do have some viewers left though. Yesterday both Mike Hunt and Mike Oxlong managed to get their comments on air.

As an outsider, shouldn't this be called "UK News"?

Do the DUP have an opinion on this?

The Don 17th June 2021 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 13510994)
As an outsider, shouldn't this be called "UK News"?

Do the DUP have an opinion on this?

It should but......

The sort of "gammon" that watches GB News for real probably doesn't discriminate between England, Great Britain and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

They also like "GB" because the longer version has "Great" in the name which reminds them of when Britain was Great and reassures them that Brexit will make Britain Great again. :rolleyes:

Carrot Flower King 17th June 2021 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person (Post 13510994)
As an outsider, shouldn't this be called "UK News"?

Do the DUP have an opinion on this?

It's a very common thing for Norn Iron to be ignored: FFS, even the UK-ian Olympic team is called "Team GB".

Captain_Swoop 18th June 2021 02:29 AM

Chesham and Amersham: Lib Dems overturn big Tory majority in by-election upset

The Liberal Democrats have pulled off a stunning by-election victory, overturning a 16,000 majority in a seat that has always voted Conservative.

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the Chesham and Amersham result "sends shockwaves through British politics".

The party's candidate Sarah Green won by 8,028 votes from the Tories, with the Green Party in third place.

Labour had the worst by-election result in the party's history, with just 622 votes.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-57472032



Reporting of the Labour vote is misleading.
There was a lot of strategic voting to get the Tories out. Most labour voters went with the Lib-Dems.

Captain_Swoop 18th June 2021 03:01 AM

Former Conservative MP Dominic Grieve says Chesham and Amersham by-election result was predictable.

"This has happened not just because of HS2, it's because this is a sophisticated electorate and they have a very low opinion of the prime minister"

Darat 18th June 2021 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13512438)
Former Conservative MP Dominic Grieve says Chesham and Amersham by-election result was predictable.

"This has happened not just because of HS2, it's because this is a sophisticated electorate and they have a very low opinion of the prime minister"

It's a next-door constituency to me and I disagree to an extent - HS2 played a huge part in it.

catsmate 18th June 2021 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13512425)
Chesham and Amersham: Lib Dems overturn big Tory majority in by-election upset

The Liberal Democrats have pulled off a stunning by-election victory, overturning a 16,000 majority in a seat that has always voted Conservative.

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the Chesham and Amersham result "sends shockwaves through British politics".

The party's candidate Sarah Green won by 8,028 votes from the Tories, with the Green Party in third place.

Labour had the worst by-election result in the party's history, with just 622 votes.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-57472032



Reporting of the Labour vote is misleading.
There was a lot of strategic voting to get the Tories out. Most labour voters went with the Lib-Dems
.

Indeed, and most of the anti-government swing was down to local, rather than national, issues like the H2S fiasco.

Lplus 18th June 2021 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by catsmate (Post 13512502)
Indeed, and most of the anti-government swing was down to local, rather than national, issues like the H2S fiasco.

A bit of a stink about that....

Wudang 18th June 2021 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lplus (Post 13512513)
A bit of a stink about that....


Well played.

catsmate 18th June 2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lplus (Post 13512513)
A bit of a stink about that....

:rolleyes: :) :covereyes
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Originally Posted by Wudang (Post 13512540)
Well played.

:)

Darat 18th June 2021 09:44 AM

Amazing how the mainstream press wasn't reporting about this constituency prior to the result.... you'd almost think the political reporters never got off their arses and did any actual investigative work. This result is only surprising if you didn't know anything about the local politics.

The best thing is that nothing gets rid of Tory PMs quicker then backbenchers thinking they are vulnerable at the polls.

Captain_Swoop 18th June 2021 03:49 PM

Boris Johnson is to strip the Electoral Commission of the power to prosecute law-breaking, just weeks after it launched an investigation into his controversial flat refurbishment.

The watchdog has been threatened with curbs ever since it embarrassed senior Tory figures by fining Vote Leave for busting spending limits for the Brexit referendum.
Now ministers have announced that a new Elections Bill will remove its ability to prosecute criminal offences under electoral law – arguing it “wastes public money”.

Chloe Smith, the constitution minister, insisted “the proper place for criminal investigations and prosecutions relating to electoral law is with the police and the Crown Prosecution Service”.
“In recent years, the Electoral Commission has sought to develop the capability to bring criminal offences before the courts,” she said. “This has never been agreed by the government or Parliament.

Having the Electoral Commission step into this space would risk wasting public money as well as present potential conflicts of interest for a body responsible for providing advice and guidance on electoral law to initiate proceedings which might depend on the very advice that was given.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1868407.html

Captain_Swoop 19th June 2021 10:45 AM

The Democratic Unionist Party's Paul Givan has been told that he will have to resign as Northern Ireland's first minister when a new party leader takes over.

It comes just days after Mr Givan was officially installed in the post.

DUP party officers have set a date of 26 June to elect a new leader, with only MLAs and MPs entitled to vote.

The nomination process has now opened, and will remain so until noon on 22 June.

Mr Givan was informed that he would have to step down by DUP officers after Edwin Poots resigned as party leader.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57538844

Darat 19th June 2021 11:28 AM

What about that Arlene Foster bod, could they be in with a chance?

Guybrush Threepwood 19th June 2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13498441)
John Bercow a Tory MP appointed as Speaker by a Tory government was punished for not being partisan by the Tories when they withheld a peerage from him so that he could not sit in the House of Lords
He was the first speaker of the house in 230 years to not be automatically given one.

Meanwhile the son of a Russian oligarch and Tory party donor was given a title.

On the other hand, maybe Boris just spotted a wrong 'un. Given he's now defected to Labour :D

Captain_Swoop 19th June 2021 01:05 PM

John Bercow defects to Labour with withering attack on Johnson

John Bercow, the former Tory MP and Speaker of the House of Commons, today delivers an extraordinary broadside against Boris Johnson and the Conservative party as he announces he has switched his political allegiance to Labour.
In an explosive interview with the Observer, Bercow says he regards today’s Conservative party as “reactionary, populist, nationalistic and sometimes even xenophobic”.
Bercow, who stepped down as Speaker in 2019 after 10 years, says he joined the Labour party a few weeks ago because he now shares its values and sees it is as the only means to removing the current Tory government from office.

“I am motivated by support for equality, social justice and internationalism. That is the Labour brand,” he said. “The conclusion I have reached is that this government needs to be replaced. The reality is that the Labour party is the only vehicle that can achieve that objective. There is no other credible option.”

Bercow says that despite Johnson’s professed commitment to “levelling up”, he has no interest in those less privileged than himself. He also describes as “utterly shameful” the decision to cut international aid.

‘‘He is a successful campaigner but a lousy governor,” he said. “I don’t think he has any vision of a more equitable society, any thirst for social mobility or any passion to better the lot of people less fortunate than he is. I think increasingly people are sick of lies, sick of empty slogans, sick of a failure to deliver.’’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ack-on-johnson

Captain_Swoop 19th June 2021 02:44 PM

Oliver Dowden the Culture Secretary writing in the Sunday Telegraph published tomorrow says that the advertisers boycotting GB News are a "threat to democracy" and "We will not allow this to happen"

Who had Conservative Minister tells businesses who they must and must not spend their money on in their predictions for 2021?

What does he think the government can do? Make it legally binding for companies to advertise on GB News?

catsmate 19th June 2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13513667)
The Democratic Unionist Party's Paul Givan has been told that he will have to resign as Northern Ireland's first minister when a new party leader takes over.

It comes just days after Mr Givan was officially installed in the post.

DUP party officers have set a date of 26 June to elect a new leader, with only MLAs and MPs entitled to vote.

The nomination process has now opened, and will remain so until noon on 22 June.

Mr Givan was informed that he would have to step down by DUP officers after Edwin Poots resigned as party leader.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57538844

Actually it's up to the Assembly to determine who holds the position of First Minister; unless the DUP wish to propose a vote of no-confidence in their party colleague he doesn't have to resign.
If he does it starts the clock on the Assembly electing new First and Defuty First ministers, or an election must be called. Given their current polling an Assembly election would be an electoral disaster for the party, they'd lose perhaps half their (currently) 28 seats, the First Ministership and quite possibly any significant role in politics. It would also precipitate a constitutional crisis if, as the polls indicate, the Alliance party comes in second.
Fun times.

GlennB 19th June 2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13513820)
Oliver Dowden the Culture Secretary writing in the Sunday Telegraph published tomorrow says that the advertisers boycotting GB News are a "threat to democracy" and "We will not allow this to happen"

Who had Conservative Minister tells businesses who they must and must not spend their money on in their predictions for 2021?

What does he think the government can do? Make it legally binding for companies to advertise on GB News?

That's really rather disturbing. But then, so much is these days.

Carrot Flower King 20th June 2021 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13513820)
Oliver Dowden the Culture Secretary writing in the Sunday Telegraph published tomorrow says that the advertisers boycotting GB News are a "threat to democracy" and "We will not allow this to happen"

Who had Conservative Minister tells businesses who they must and must not spend their money on in their predictions for 2021?

What does he think the government can do? Make it legally binding for companies to advertise on GB News?

Strange how supposed "free" market types don't like it when it doesn't work the way they want it to...It's almost like they don't really want a free market at all.

Garrison 20th June 2021 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King (Post 13514187)
Strange how supposed "free" market types don't like it when it doesn't work the way they want it to...It's almost like they don't really want a free market at all.

It's a function of the mismatch between the attitudes of consumers of these companies products and those of the politicians. Added to that social media means that the companies get feedback with a speed and scale that was just impossible in the past.

Captain_Swoop 20th June 2021 04:54 PM

The prime minister has set out plans to cement the UK's place as a "science superpower".

Boris Johnson announced how increases in the research budget would be spent.
He will chair a new National Science and Technology Council to provide "strategic direction" on how research is harnessed for the "public good".
And Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific adviser to the government, will lead a new Office for Science and Technology Strategy.
He will take up the role of the new national technology adviser, alongside his current role.

Mr Johnson said the UK's vaccination programme had proven what the UK can achieve at scale and speed.
"With the right direction, pace and backing, we can breathe life into many more scientific and technological breakthroughs that transform the lives of people across the UK and the world," he said.
It aims to increase research spending from nearly £15bn a year to £22bn by 2025.
The stated aim is to use the extra money to tackle societal challenges, such as the impact of climate change, level up across the country and boost prosperity around the world.

As ever though, with greater budgets, comes greater ministerial supervision - in the form of a new committee chaired by the prime minister.
On the one hand it puts science at the heart of government, but on the other there's concern that there will be more political control on research budgets that could mean money being diverted toward pet projects - rather than spent on what is independently judged by experts to be best for science - as happens currently.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57548531

Captain_Swoop 20th June 2021 04:54 PM

Has one of his pals bought a Chemistry set?

KDLarsen 21st June 2021 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop (Post 13513820)
Oliver Dowden the Culture Secretary writing in the Sunday Telegraph published tomorrow says that the advertisers boycotting GB News are a "threat to democracy" and "We will not allow this to happen"

Who had Conservative Minister tells businesses who they must and must not spend their money on in their predictions for 2021?

What does he think the government can do? Make it legally binding for companies to advertise on GB News?

Without wishing to descend into a "No true Scotsman" argument, I think it's safe to say the Tories have departed their conservative position and moved into the realm of populism instead. Certainly, hearing Johnson talking about raising taxes to spend on 'levelling up' (I still find it hilarious they had to hire a consultant to figure out what it's supposed to mean) the coutry must have irked some of the actual conservatives.

Archie Gemmill Goal 21st June 2021 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don (Post 13511247)
It should but......

The sort of "gammon" that watches GB News for real probably doesn't discriminate between England, Great Britain and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

They also like "GB" because the longer version has "Great" in the name which reminds them of when Britain was Great and reassures them that Brexit will make Britain Great again. :rolleyes:

I though it stood for Gammon Bollocks?

Not watched it, don't know how to watch it, don't have any interest in watching it and won't watch it.

Giving it attention is counter productive.


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