IMO Christians worth their salt do not need to "turn" their hearts to Christ - Christ already lives there.

Anytime I hear about days of prayer I'm thinking, aren't you guys supposed to be praying every day already? And not be making any loud-ass announcements about it either, per a rather well-known sermon on a mountain?

Well, Christian theology is a mystery to me anyway. The Lord turns water into wine, but the Baptists aren't allowed to drink it.

No I honestly think her faults were a very minor part of the "loss". In an otherwise fair fight, she'd have wiped the floor with Trump.

Now if she were up against a competent politician who knew how to speak, that'd have been a different story. I think Hilary Clinton would have been in trouble in a fair election against Jeb Shrub.

You missed the most important one - 62,984,828 Deplorables. They knew what Trump was, but voted for him anyway.

But yes, Hillary was a terrible candidate. We know this because the Deplorables kept telling us so. Would they lie to us? Of course not. And it's not like it was out of the blue. They've been trying to tell us for decades how bad Hillary is! So we took it on board and said "Hillary is a terrible candidate, but she's not Trump so I guess I will have to vote for her" (except for those of us who didn't).

Let's count the ways Hillary was so terrible, and what she should have done to be more than not-Trump:-

1. Being a woman. Hillary should have taken testosterone and gotten a sex change.

2. Cozying up to elites instead of listening to common folk. She should have avoided anyone with power and influence, and lived under a bridge with homeless people.

3. Not being progressive. She should have offered real change, like Obama!

4. Being part of the 'Establishment'. Hillary should have remained independent from the Democratic party all those years. When challenged she could have said 'of course I am a Democrat' but continue running as an independent.

There are many more things she could have done of course, such as conceding to Bernie in the primaries even though she won, or simply giving up politics to let men run things, but sadly she chose her own aspirations over what was best for the country. What made her think she was better suited to the job than a failed businessman, grifter and reality TV star?

I agree with those weightings. But even though her lackluster campaign was only a small part of it, in the end she was totally to blame for the loss. If only she had whipped up a bit more enthusiasm we could have won! Many of us loyal democrats worked very hard to get people on our side, only to be let down by that 3% (especially those of us who didn't bother voting because she had an 'unassailable' 3% lead in the polls).

Wait. Wait.

The National Day of Prayer is in May.

What the ****** is “the inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return.”?

I can’t find anything about it other that the White House made a proclamation. The press release doesn’t even say what it is.


ETA
Ok, I found it. I didn’t see it earlier because the WH ****** up the name.

It is the National and Global [sic] Day of Prayer and Repentance created by a group call the Return 2020.

https://blackchristiannews.com/2020/...-sept-26-2020/

"You're just pickin' on me 'cause I'm a girl" has been Clinton's go-to excuse for most of her life. But the fact is that she won three million more votes than her opponent in 2016, and Jill Stein won a million and a half votes herself, most of which would have gone to Clinton in a two-way race. Americans were and are perfectly willing to elect a woman as President. Gee, if only Hillary hadn't been so sure of victory that 79,000 people in three states who would have voted for her just stayed home....

Yeah, I too have malpractice insurance. But legislators wrote laws excluding themselves from personal liability. That includes police and in may cases, attorneys.

So it is a lie.

Yesterday’s poll of Fox News viewers:

- 55% said the president clearly won the first debate
- 45% said the debates have not yet happened.

:dl:

Last sentence from that web site:

When did we leave?

Oh, Bell ****. Cite some examples.

What a steaming pile of ****. How is it you know so little about Clinton? This post is pitiful.

And no one on this forum that I can see said a woman couldn't get elected.

Nonsense. I actually heard people say they wouldn't vote for her because she was a woman.

When mixed marriages were allowed, when women got the right to vote, when civil rights laws were enacted, when people started forming their own views instead of taking them from their pastor - take your pick :mad:

Trump Retweeted

“Well, we won Pennsylvania last time and we’re going to win it by a lot more this time.” -@realDonaldTrump

“Judge Barrett is a brilliant legal mind … Most important of all, she will defend your God-given rights and freedoms.” -@realDonaldTrump

I’ve just come from the Rose Garden of the White House where I proudly nominated Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the United States Supreme -@realDonaldTrump

“I’ll keep your jobs in Pennsylvania where they belong!” -@realDonaldTrump

Patrick Yoes, President of the National Fraternal Order of Police to @realDonaldTrump:
“You sir, have never turned your back on America’s law enforcement… On behalf of America’s largest law enforcement organization… we give you our unanimous & enthusiastic endorsement.”

Trump Retweeted
Ronna McDaniel
@GOPChairwoman
Judge Amy Coney Barrett is a remarkable nominee, and the Senate should confirm her without delay.

The RNC is investing $10M to promote her qualifications, expose Democrats’ partisanship, and use this issue to galvanize voters to the polls in November!

Trump Tweets

For years you had a President who apologized for America - now you have a President who is standing up for America, and standing up for Pennsylvania. So get your friends, get your family, get your neighbors & co-workers, and GET OUT & VOTE! Early voting has already begun — VOTE!

Together, we are taking back our Country. We are returning power to YOU, the American People. With your help, your devotion, & your drive, we are going to keep on working, we are going to keep on fighting, & we are going to keep ON WINNING! Get out & VOTE! http://Vote.DonaldJTrump.com

In just 3 and a half years, we have secured America’s Borders, rebuilt the awesome power of the U.S. Military, obliterated the ISIS caliphate, fixed our disastrous Trade Deals, and brought JOBS back home to America – and back to PENNSYLVANIA! #MAGA

When Trump loses and then fights recounts for months, what is the agency that eventually walks him out and flies him to Florida?
Nixon leaves, mostly silent footage:
https://youtu.be/58H431UuNvs

Trump complains the media didn't report his Nobel Peace Prizes:

"On Saturday, Trump grumbled that there wasn’t a word in the “fake news” about his Nobel recognition.

“Somebody had a show where they said the amount of time devoted to Donald Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize — two of ’em — [was] zero on the networks, zero,” he emphasized. ”It is so disgraceful. They’re so bad.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...?ocid=msedgdhp

I mentioned this the last time that there was a similar claim. I was part of a union when I worked for New York State. The union leaders told the members which candidates the union was endorsing. The members had no say in the matter.

Is this a joke or is there a cite?

The narrower the margin, the more determinative causes for an outcome. For instance, Gore might have won Florida if he would have skipped lunch on Nov 2. The margin in 2016 was also paper thin.

I have higher standards for people who should know better. Conversely, I don't expect a lot from dim-witted cultists and/or fundamentalist nutjobs.

It was obvious that Trump was an existential threat to democracy. Too many people who should have known better ... did not.

I don't quarrel much with your blame assignment. I would add Clinton's considerable baggage, some of which was earned and some not.

It's possible that 2020 will also be a narrow margin.

Are you dead yet? When people die, they "return to God" at last check. ;)

Separately, after all the atrocities that the Trump Administration and the Republicans have been pushing - with the approval of a bit too much of the nation, returning to a healthier state of being wouldn't be a bad thing.

I do wonder if Warren would be the candidate now if she had been Bert instead of Beth. Of course there's no way to know.

Trump Tweeted

Obamacare will be replaced with a MUCH better, and FAR cheaper, alternative if it is terminated in the Supreme Court. Would be a big WIN for the USA!

Hanoi Dick, who lied for years by saying he was a war hero in Vietnam, and was never even there (Impeach him!), should not be entitled to a vote on anything of importance!

YES, for many years, and hundreds of times a year. He is a Senatorial JOKE!
Quote Tweet

Scott Jough
@ScottJoughNJ
Replying to @GovMikeHuckabee
Didn't Blumenthal lie about serving in Vietnam?

It only says that they purchased liability insurance, which they may well have done. It doesn't say what liabilities that insurance would cover. So technically the assertion may well be true. Certainly the implication and intended inference is that it was to cover their professional conduct, which may be false.

As already noted such professionals are generally indemnified from personal liability, but even just taking the potentially intended misrepresentation at face value I'm not sure how the heck just quoting that, let alone underwriting it, would work.


Analyst 1: "Good morning, I'm looking to get a quote on some liability insurance."

Insurance Agent: "No problem, I can certainly help you with that today. What type of liability would you like this policy to cover?"

Analyst 1: "Well, we're looking to maliciously prosecute someone and... "

*****CLICK*****

Analyst 1: "...Hello... Hello... "

Analyst 2: "Well that's Progressive and Geico down. Ya wanna try Liberty Mutual next?"

Analyst 1: "What?!? A freak'n Dweeb and an Emu?!? We ain't that desperate yet!"

Analyst 2: "OK, OK, so what about Farmers? They know a thing or two because they've seen a thing or two."

Analyst 1: "Yeah, yeah, so making it a thing or three would be right up their alley. Good call, what's the number?"

There is if you want to rent the use of my parsnip-powered time machine. However, because its operation constitutes a violation of the laws of physics and irreparably changes the universe, I must charge you an infinite amount of money for its use, to compensate me for the possibility that I may end up never having been born or, even worse, turned into a newt. And you must return it in pristine condition, not covered with the brains and blood of Hitler like the last rental! Also, the name "Elisabert" is a silly name for a boy, and has not been used since King Elisabert VII of South North East Wessex died in 857 A.D. of choking on someone else's vomit.

No that's standard Right Wing logic.

Take a fair system where everyone has to play by the same rules, gain power in it, rewrite the rules so they don't apply to you, and then act shocked and appalled and clutch your pearls when someone suggests your are playing unfairly by going "But that's what the rules of the game say!"

"Don't hate the player, hate the game" is a dumb rule on the best of days. On days when the players are the one's writing the rules of the game it's inane.

A plan that we're going to start thinking about starting to create any day now. Honest.

If the EC can't pick a winner by January, the Speaker of the House would take over until they do.
Which begs the question: can Trump mess with the House Election?

If there were a better, cheaper and covers more alternative to ObamaCare, the correct approach would be to have introduced it 3 years ago in Congress, because, if it really exists, only a moron would object.

And if there were a better, cheaper and covers more alternative to ObamaCare, only a real slimeball would hide it away for years and keep it from being implemented except as a political tool.

If Trump squeaks out a "win", I wonder if in the end it would be a good thing? After decades of comparative global peace (no follow-up WWIII), a couple or three generations of comfortable living have induced a general complacency, a lack of vigilance against threats to democracy. Especially domestic.

The shock of the realization that the Republic is in real danger might inspire a genuine fight to preserve it. "We have a Republic, if we can keep it." The test of that might just be about to be implemented. Fail, and then it could well be that democracy is too advanced a proposition for deplorable Man at this time.

I think so, too. It's the silver lining of four years with Trump - he's made all the trolls come out of their caves, and made everyone realise how much trouble the US is really in.

Also when that Muslim Atheist Commie Socialist Kenyan America-Hating N-word stole the election.

People keep attributing to Trump what properly goes to the Republican Party. Yes, the Republican Party CAN mess with the House Election and has been doing so successfully for years, through gerrymandering, selective voter purging, closing of polling stations, and so on.

Should media dedicate equal time to all 317 others who are nominated for the Nobel peace prize this year?

So many lies as usual. The man's narcissism and jealousy and envy of Obama knows no bounds:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/tr...obel-nonsense/

Trump tweeted

Proclamation on Gold Star Mother’s and Family’s Day, 2020 | The White House
The brave men and women of our Armed Forces represent the very best of our great Nation, matched only by the families who walk beside them in their service

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...ilys-day-2020/

Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini were also nominated for Nobel Peace Prizes. Like Trump, they also didn't win. Losers.

No! All media should concentrate on Trump, and Trump alone. And only say/print positive things about him. Any news that does not do this is fake news. Have you learned nothing in the past four years?

And Putin is nominated for this year, so Trump is in company that he likes.

Let's note again that tens of thousands of people around the world can nominate anybody for the Nobel Peace Prize, among them legislators, senior government officials, and university professors and former professors in multiple fields. And all they have to do is write a letter. You, I and most people on this forum probably know people who could submit a nomination, and some could do it ourselves. Maybe what would get Trump's goat would be to run lists of all the nominees, in alphabetical order.
https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

One problem with your suggestion is that the longer the republicans are in charge the harder it will be to dislodge them... Enacting further voter suppression that keeps them in power, more right wing judges willing to play politics to help them get re-elected, etc.

If one trump term wasn't enough to get people willing to work towards shoring up democracy, nothing will.

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In two weeks.....

We went through this before (trying to remember who claimed to be nominated). Anyway, nominees are never disclosed by the Nobel Committee until 50 years after the fact.

So someone tells Trump they nominated him, and he starts believing he will win and of course when he doesn't, he'll claim it was rigged, people out to get him as usual.


I don't think there are tens of thousands of qualified nominators. Thousands maybe: Who was it nominated Trump again?

Ah, I found it MSN:

From my source above regarding Trump's Nobel claim:

Sure. I was just guessing. But if you add up all the members of all the world's national assemblies and senior government officials, and all the world's current and former professors and assistant professors of history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion, that has to be a big number. The U.S. alone has more than 4000 colleges and universities. If they each have or have had at least two history professors and two sociology/psychology/economics etc. professors, that's 16,000 right there. And just one big state u. could have hundreds.
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...er-is-changing

My point is just that a Nobel "nominator" is not hard to find.

Yeah, 200 countries with - total guess - average of 200 legislators each is 40000 right there. Of course there are lots of small countries with only a handful, but the UK has 1400, the US more than 500, so that will balance it out a bit.

ETA - the Interparliamentary Union said 46,552 in 2012

Also in 2012 the NPP went to the EU, which the European Commission said went to all its citizens at the time. I intend to test whether I can become a nominator under the previous winners rule!

Congressman Eric Swalwell tweeted:

There's people who don't know that the Dems are partisan??!! Well, I'll be darned; what a world we live in. :rolleyes:

Don't wonder. Another Trump presidency and global warming would probably be irreversible. So, sure, we'd eventually have a democracy .... in the United States of Burnt Toast.

I certainly hope Patrick Yoes isn’t a police detective. I imagine it would be quite embarrassing for him to have then somehow missed Donald “Law and Order” Trump is a lifelong criminal.