Motivation is clear with him, Tony Bobulinski found out through the Senate report a few weeks ago that Hunter and Jim Biden had a side deal with CEFC China Energy, and he wasn't happy about it.

Obviously, Giuliani was wrong initially just like the doubters here at ISF.

I'm not obligated to explain anything to anyone who can very easily find the explanation themselves by reading information that has been provided by multiple sources available with a quick Google search.




GTV has released another picture captioned "Exclusive! Picture of Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden Using and Weighing Drugs Disclosed!".

It's a picture 4.7 g of crack cocaine sitting on a scale. I hope he put back 10% for "the big guy."

I'm guessing he saw the writing on the wall and stepped out in front of this before being thrown under the bus and ending up a convicted felon like two other Hunter Biden former business partners.

How do you know it's the same material?

Giuliani was wrong that the disinformation someone was trying to charge him $5mil to buy was too sketchy? And you believe that because...?

I'm not going to be able to google why you think evidence that a self admitted drug user was using drugs is some kind of dirt or gotcha. That's why I'm asking you to explain it. If you are unable to, that's ok, I I understand.


Oh noes, more evidence that a former addict once used drugs. I am blown away. Next you'll be dropping old Cheech and Chong movies to prove they used drugs too!

I guess there could have been more than one group selling this stuff, but I sure hope nobody actually paid the asking price of $5 mil for evidence of what was already public and old knowledge.

So you think the repair shop guy is lying?

Forgive me for presuming you were sufficiently informed about the subject being discussed. I mentioned "10% to the big guy" in the post you are replying to. Google that term and inform yourself on what it means and how it relates to Joe Biden and Tony Bobulinski.

What makes you think Shokin wasn't investigating Mykola Zlochevsky/Burisma?

There’s supposed to be a laptop from Biden full of details of foreign corruption and child porn, but it’s just a bunch of sex tapes. How boring.

Do I think he got 3 laptops from someone he couldn’t identify but guessed it was Hunter Biden due to a sticker on the laptop, was unable to contact Hunter Biden in any way, made copies of the hard drives and then contacted and turned them over to Rudy Giulianis lawyer? No I don’t think that happened it sounds stupid.

And meanwhile, Rudy Giuliani is cavorting around Eastern Europe specifically to find dirt on Hunter Biden and has been offered this exact info for sale is just a coincidence. Hunter maybe be smoking crack, but sir I am not.

Yeah, I'm not sure that's how it's been reported, but just wanted to know if you thought he was lying, which you do. Thanks.

If you meant legally obligated then you should have said so.

Why would you say that?


But you said he was. Unequivocally. Now you're not sure?

You don't know that. As far as we know the Sun won't ever go supernova, but that doesn't preclude the possibility that scientists are wrong about it.

Possibility is one thing, probability another. Do you have any idea how likely it is?

To be as fair as I can about this, most of the reporting on it comes from a tabloid article written by a segment producer for a right wing entertainment show so i can understand your doubts about the story.

Ok.

Why would I think purported emails that detail corruption should be released on moral grounds?

Actually I'm am sure he was pretending to know, whether he realizes it or not.

I'm comfortable going with the present science.

Nope.

Fake news. It was fake news 10 days ago when it was first claimed, it's fake news today, it will be fake news for eternity.

John Paul said in a recorded interview he would not have been able to pick Hunter Biden out of the lineup because he didn't know what Hunter Biden looked like.

John Paul said he asked the person dropping the laptops off for his name to which the man responded "Hunter" and then after a long pause said, "Biden" as if he was supposed to recognize who Biden was.

You can hear for yourself starting at the 7:00 mark in the recording at this link. You should listen to the whole thing so you will know what the man actually said instead of the bull **** spin propagated by the media.

https://soundcloud.com/rptrbnd/mac-shop-10-14-cm

Too early to tell, not enough information. Also, the biggest red flag for me is the Wang DingGang aspect.

In fairness to the other side, I've seen claims he contradicted himself. I also asked for a cite but didn't get any.

Rein it in there chief. He also said he can’t be sure it was actually Biden but was convinced because of the sticker. At least, that’s what the NY Post article that broke the story claimed. Which, again, trying to figure out whether or not it’s true so if you’re taking issue with me using that as a source then, well I’ve been saying it’s fake news the whole time.

Even if I take the worst version of this scandal, accept it without evidence, and multiply it times 10 it won't compare to what Trump does every day before breakfast.

Oh I didn’t see that. I got one, the NY Post says he used the Beau Biden foundation sticker to help him identify that it was Hunter but apparently there’s audio of him denying that. Somebody got something wrong there.

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot Hunter Biden and I would still vote for him. YMMV

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-...iz-man-to-dad/

"The shop owner couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden, but said the laptop bore a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation, named after Hunter’s late brother and former Delaware attorney general."

I don't think he used that to identify who brought it in. He has the receipt with Hunter Biden written on it, regardless of whether it was "a second Oswald" who brought it in.

Cool.

Interesting thoughts. But why would he bring it up in conjunction with not being able to identify who’s laptop it is if not as evidence he used to identify who’s laptop it is? And why would a receipt with “Hunter Biden” on it matter if it wasn’t Hunter Biden who signed the receipt?

Why bring up the sticker? Because in conjunction with the receipt, it kind of rules out that it was a different Hunter Biden. If it was "the second Oswald" who brought it in, you're right, the receipt wouldn't matter.

It happens all the time with these laptops. That's no reason not to believe whatever the most recent version is, though.

Here you go:

NYP
delawareonline.com:

That's not a contradiction. The NYP cite is from before his press call, from the article that broke the story. The delawareonline is from the press call after the story broke. Im not sure making a statement to the NYP and then saying "no comment" later is a contradiction, but that's just me I guess.

Cool! :thumbsup:

If they had better material they would have used it.

The Biden detractors here are making some of the most deeply dishonest arguments I've ever seen on this forum.

ETA: But they aren't even arguments. Just a bunch of smears, sneers and jeers.

Oh so the sticker is an integral part of the story and not fake news? Cool then we can move on from that.

Why the inconsistency? What is he hiding?

LOL. What a crock! Nothing of the sort!

I can leave a bodged-up computer at a repair place with a Nazi swastika on it and sign the receipt "Benito Stalin Hitler". In no way does that tie that machine to me, nor does it represent my political views. So if it contains kiddie-porn, does that mean one of those historical leaders is a rock-spider?

Even if this mythical laptop was for some inexplicable reason left at some five-and-dime repair center a zillion miles from where it would be expected to be left, and somehow or other the owner left their private stash of drug-fueled home-movies on it easily accessible, this reeks of a kompromat set-up.

But why go to all that expensive, risky bother. Rudi G has been trawling around Ukraine looking for just this sort of stuff for over a year. He has admitted as much. So just sell the fake kompromat straight to him in Kyiv for dollars, and then let him try to sell it to the US public. He is that stupid and mad. GRU is now millions richer in US dollars, Rudi is happy, and everyone waits for the laugh track to kick in.

So you do understand? This was not aimed at Hunter Biden at all. It was aimed at Rudi, and indirectly it was telling Trump that he, too, can be exposed that easily by his moronic buddies.

Things I've gathered up here:

1) Working for a company is bad. Even if HB did some work for CEFC it is absolutely a no issue. CEFC had tons of employees and no ones calling them out - not working would probably mean labeling HB as a deadbeat bum, but hey.

2)If a company employing you ends up doing something fishy later on, it's an obvious mark that everyone doing business with the said company is part of the fishy business - sorry all former CEFC employees.

3)Pictures that have someone that looks a bit like HB doing drugs are always real. I really can't say if some of the crack fotoes are of HB or someone else.
First time I saw it I was like "That explains a ton about Dr. House"

Not that it really even matters. Hunter Biden is not on the ballot. So the entire thing is just a pointless diversion and a desperate last minute attempt to stir up some scandal. Funniest stuff about this is the rabid Trump supporters doing the "worst crime ever/Obama/chyna"-routine.

Even IF HB did some work for CEFC, in what way was that even remotely illegal in 2017? Is there anything except silly CTs and innuendoes?

The origin of the laptop doesn't even matter, who cares if its a fake or real nothingburger. The entire discussion about it's origin is just a smokescreen and a diversion to cover up the fact that there is nothing of value here, just pointless stuff that amounts to absolutely nothing.

imo the longer they keep pushing this instead of talking about something voters might actually care about the better

At this stage, entire thread belongs to conspiracy subforum section.

The store is a few miles away from his father's house, and right up the street from the foundation. The "zillion miles" is just nonsense.



You have the repair guy as a willing part of some Russian conspiracy?

I've asked you before which contradictory version of his story is true, and how do you know? In response to you asking that exact question already.

Wow, that's a blast from the past. How many pages back, 6? Or 16.5?

Anyway, the fact that the entire international community was complaining at the time that Shokin wasn't, coupled with his explicit stated refusal to do so. Thanks for playing.