Given your avatar, I was reminded of the dentist in this scene.

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I AGREE

I hope AOC continues devoting her energy to campaigning and legislating instead. A debate with a fern or species of nail fungus would be more productive and persuasive than a debate with MTG.

Agreed.
Never wrestle with pigs. ...

Hans

Yup... I knew EXACTLY what that clip would be before I opened it!! :thumbsup:

Absolutely. There is nothing to win in a debate with Greene. You debate people like that with facts and they will respond with idiocy, insults and conspiracy theories, then flounce off and declare themselves the winner. And their idiot followers will believe them.

Leaving a trail of upturned pigeon-pooped chessboards behind them.

Greene is relentless with the spin. Tuesday night she tweeted that Washington streets were deserted as a heavy police presence patrolled the city. Why? The Derek Chauvin verdict and fears the "domestic terrorist group" BLM were about to stage violent riots.

This plays into her base's prejudices and her supporters undoubtedly accept it -- and will endlessly repeat it to one another -- but not surprisingly, it wasn't true.
But if the streets weren't deserted, if the police presence was no more than on any other night, how does Greene rationalize lying about it? Undoubtedly, it's part of her effort to establish her 'brand' and solidify her base. It also has to do with fundraising, attracting donors. Below is a quote from her hometown newspaper, the Rome Georgia News-Tribune.
In looking at Greene's Twitter account she appears to have removed this particular tweet (like she has done with tweets so many times before) but of course, not before someone screen capped it. ;)

I agree. There is no reason to debate this issue with Marjorie Greene. Her only purpose would be to appeal to her base by publicly insulting and ridiculing AOC. That's all she is looking for (and AOC undoubtedly knows it). It's not like Greene has a plan of her own that she believes would be more effective. She has no plan, only 'talking points.'

I read some time ago an interview with a scientist who is working on developing computers with artificial intelligence. At one point the conversation veered off into climate change. The scientist -- who also has a degree in biology and has worked in that field -- said he thought 'the window' on avoiding future catastrophe had closed, it was already too late. That he fully expects by the end of this century extreme weather will end humankind's time on this planet. He said the problem that had emerged was, that while the scientific community had reached consensus the political community had proven unable to do so. He is convinced that flaw -- politicians who reject science and refuse to plan for the long term -- has already doomed humankind. He could have been talking about you-know-who.

Ah, you're so hopelessly optimistic.

Sure, on merits, AOC (who I don't particularly respect) will dominate. She does actually understand the issues. But that wouldn't matter, because those who admire MTG will conclude that she owned AOC. What good do facts do? What matters is an attack that already confirms one's preconceptions: AOC wants to turn us socialist and MTG is fighting the good fight.

Let us recall that in th GQP narrative the city of Portland was entirely on fire. Completely obliterated by rioting BLM and is still on fire to this day.

Unfortunately he might be right. I don't think the species is going to disappear, but I don't expect we're going to mitigate climate change much, and there's going to be a "correction" in the ecosystem (95% reduction in population, loss of civilisation infrastructure, migrations, etc.)

I'd rather we manage to make it work, but in the end things will balance out as they will.

I don't. No reason for AOC...whom incidently I am not a supporter of...to get into the gutter with MTG is a lame marketing scheme.

"Never wrestle with a pig.You just get dirty and the pig likes it"

Lazarus Long. "Time Enough For Love".

Precisely. And so very apt, in this case.

I think many of us make this mistake: We think that sober facts can overcome deliberate nonsense. If only that were true, the world would be a MUCH better place.

Hans

Agreed. Case in point: the Clinton-Trump debates. Try reading the comment section in articles from the C-T debates where every credible reviewer gave the debates to Clinton.



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There's also "Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." (Often attributed to Mark Twain, but its origins are murky.)

Yeah, any debate with MTG would be nothing more than a stunt. All the GOP has these days are stunts. It's pathetic.

Good to see rhyming slang has made its way across the pond.

:thumbsup:

You left out the "cupid" term in there.

All in the Best Possible Taste.

And another person as naturally blonde as MTG.

AOC's response should be simple:

"Our goal is to turn the objectives of the Green New Deal into legislation that benefits all Americans. I am happy to debate it as it proceeds through the process of becoming law, from when it is introduced into House committees and then on to the floor. Although Rep. Greene is not part of any committees and therefore won't be able to participate in any of the committee discussions, she is welcome to contribute to the debate on the House floor."

It's good to see the "Debate me you coward! Why won't you have a cIviL dEBate with me about my stupid evil insanity!" tactic is yet another internet troll tactic that has made it to Congress.

Hence my thread about democracy... but then it was Bobbed.

And how is calling for protestors to get more confrontational calling for rioting? Clearly any calling at all for protest and indeed any protest at all is really just laying the groundwork for riots.

And these are the bad kind of riots, not the fun kind like when your sportsball team wins or there are pumpkins.

I am still puzzled why so many otherwise intelligent people on this site continually engage in long debates with very obvious trolls,and then complain how trolls are ruining the site.
This site would be better if more people obeyed the simple rule "Don't Feed The Trolls".

*Head desk*

BECAUSE THAT'S WHY THE TROLLS ARE NOW IN CONGRESS!

If you ignore trolls, they don't cease to exist, they start doing things you can't ignore.

I literally don't know how history can teach us this lesson clearer.

Absolutely! So tired of seeing it.


We are talking about this site. No good comes from arguing with a troll.

Just curious, do you do this sober?

Entertainment is good.

Scared? You've been posting your wet dreams for an armed insurrection here for 18 months.
Cold feet now?

Seeing his post, I popped in to the comments of the then COVID related top story.
15 minutes, a hundred or so posts... I need a shower. Better make it a double. [emoji3525]

That's what I have been wondering.

He wasn't advocating for said war. He's been expressing his fears all along, and he made that clear.

Yup. Optimistic pessimism.

And Br'er Rabbit made it VERY clear he didn't want to get thrown in the Briar Patch as well.

I'd buy it every time he mentions it he doesn't sound like he's 3 seconds from orgasm.

Still waiting on the non confrontational protests.

I think the idea that some kind of domestic armed conflict is impossbiel should have died with Jan.6th.

Problem is no one wants to actually learn how to be legislator ..the nuts and bolts of doing the job...anymore. Too many want the leadership after just a few months in office.
Being a "backbencher: is not fun, but its' how you learn the job.
MTG seems uninterested in actually doing the job of a congressperson, but jus tin building her brand and, after a couple of terms, departing to get a lucrative job in right wing media.

You know as well as I do that whatever something you're reading on the internet "sounds" like, it's you making the sound.

If you think dudalb wants a civil war in his own country, I think you're the one being unrealistic. He can correct me if I'm mistaken.