...that doesn't have a basement.

Stage 1 of Separation: stop all net transfer of tax money to Red States.

No doubt true, but just for clarification the choice of oath or affirmation, and the optional nature of "so help me God" were put in the Constitution not so much for atheists but for Quakers, who are (or were) opposed to oaths and special invocations of God.

A mate of mine who lectured at Berkeley in the mid-2000s swears he saw a redneck interviewed on local TV who said he’d “rather have a Mooslim for President than a atheist, coz at least they believe in something”.

I’m a little sceptical because I think there was a line like that in The Big Lebowski (or maybe another film) but it would tally with your view.

If the divorce is handled through amending the constitution, then it doesn't violate that.

It was Walter talking about the nihilists. "Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, but at least it's an ethos."

Fine.

So kindly make sure to let us know when your extremely unlikely possibility actually becomes a reality.

There's actually no specific constitutional provision against secession, I think. But it produces an interesting paradox, since a person could, perhaps, promote secession of some territory, but would have to wave goodbye from the shore, so to speak, since once the deed is done one could not support it without violating the oath.

Considering the states that probably want to go, I would be happy to pack their bags for them.

Yes and no. I'd be happy to be rid of them, but they wouldn't be very far away.

I'm reminded of LBJ's answer for why he did not get rid of J. Edgar Hoover, (not probably verbatim but remembered as...) "I'd rather have him inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in."

Now, if there were only some way to protect those in red states that live in large urban enclaves.

As has been pointed out, it is more about rural vs urban, than red state vs blue state. I am pretty sure the urban blue would not be happy about having their bags packed for them. They seem okay, if not content, to live where they do due to family, jobs, climate, etc. They probably would like to see political solutions rather than to divide the states.

Red states are mostly urban and the mostly urban population is voting republican.

Mostly is not all.

We're including Lauren Boebert in this thread, aren't we?

A tweet from the brunette equivalent of MTG:


This guy in Norway killed five people with a bow and arrow. It's the worst mass killing there since 2001. For those who can't count, that 20 years. How many people have been shot to death in the US since 2001? We have more than five people murdered by guns in ONE DAY.

We really do need to have an IQ test above 110 as a requirement to run for office in this country. It would cut down on idiots like MTG, Boebert, and Tuberville getting elected.

The Anders Breivik massacre was in 2011, and was considerably worse in terms of numbers. But doesn’t detract from your point in general.

That also feels apposite, somehow…

:thumbsup:

True or not, a lot of MTG's disciples would be much happier with joining the Taliban, walking around with their M16s, keeping women in the kitchen etc

Many already have. They just don't know it yet.

It couldn't happen to a more deserving pair of jackasses.

Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz’s Big Fundraising PAC is Nearly Broke (motherjones.com)

It's just the Put America First PAC, though, that flopped. And it was a disaster. From The Daily Beast:
However, Marge's own fundraising PAC -- Greene For Congress -- is doing extremely well. In the first nine months of 2021 Greene raised $6 million (though I think in the last quarter that tailed off a bit too). See FEC screencap below:

How many of those poor putzes thought they were giving money to the Green Party? :eek:

The problem with right wing grifters is that they have bled their supporters from decades now - there is just not much left; definitely not when they give all their money to a bloatfish like Trump, mistaking him for a shark.

There always seems to be a little more, though, and you know, you'd be rich if not for the {place epithet here}. America would be great again, and so would you, if you just send me some more so I can return to the time when you could keep the {whatever you picked before} out of our clubs and our schools and our neighborhoods. It's a powerful message for those too stupid to know it wasn't the {yes, them again} that are poisoning the earth and turning your brain to oatmeal.

No.
The US ranks high in per capita charity and I think a small majority of that is RW/conservative extra "tithing" to parochial charities and causes.
There's really no bottom to US donations, we'll "give till it bleeds"... and most of that, if you want to get predatory, will come from the right.

Donny sets the tone, and MJT has to help spin it to preserve the big lie. Using the word panicked in the article headline was definitely click-bait, but the story still stands on its own.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ers/ar-AAPFSkf

"I recently conducted a poll on Georgia's elections and if my constituents felt their votes would count during a teletown hall," she tweeted on Monday. "Sadly, 4% said they won't even vote due to voter fraud. This is WRONG. Legal votes by Rs are just as important as stopping illegal ones."

Except there aren't any illegal votes. At least not enough to make a difference. But hey, can't let a good grift go, you know. Keep those donations coming in.

This is one situation where I hope they listen to Donny, not her. Fewer votes from deplorables can't help but be a good thing. :)

And now she is in a major ****-show spat with Lin Wood. Two cats fighting in a bag, and that bag should be thrown in the river.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/t...1-10?r=US&IR=T

Every stupid cloud has a silver lining!

:popcorn1

I think it would be deliciously laughable if MTG loses her next election because her gullible audience simply swallows the allegation that she's a communist. Live by the dumb, die by the dumb.

Oh dear... A fight between grifters. This could get ugly.

Wait. She's just a plain ol' communist? I thought she was a nazicommunist or am I getting her mixed up with some other nut case?

This must be some definition of Communist with which I am not familiar.

It's only Lin Wood calling her a communist. He also calls the kid who throws his morning newspaper too far from the front porch a communist.

They do that you know (newspaper kids, not communists). My front door security cam often shows my deliver guy making a two attempts to get it right at 6:20AM.

I used to love it when I could get the paper to flip end over end up the walk, that way I could get it to hit the front door.

So, it was you! ;)

Underhanded back-spin. I wanted it to be leaning up against the door if possible.

I wondere how much of MTG Campagn funds will end up in a Swiss Bank Account?

A better question is how much will not.