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Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 3rd January 2016, 09:02 PM
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Posted By 000063
That's right. Strawman. Move those goalposts. ...

That's right. Strawman. Move those goalposts.



One of the Youtube truthers I made the mistake of arguing with claimed to have metallurgical training, yet still used the argument that molten...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 23rd December 2015, 08:52 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 12,109
Posted By 000063
It could not have collapsed the way it did with...

It could not have collapsed the way it did with CD, unless it was possible to precisely aim the collapse of the 110-story Towers so they wouldn't disrupt the charges in 7. Which also requires...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 22nd December 2015, 10:00 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 20,339
Posted By 000063
They tend to handwave about "nano-thermite",...

They tend to handwave about "nano-thermite", which they seem to think would have all the cutting power of thermite with all the speed of a bomb. Also, it somehow lacks the barotrauma of explosives...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 22nd December 2015, 09:56 PM
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Posted By 000063
Some of the evidence for "faked" Youtube likes is...

Some of the evidence for "faked" Youtube likes is the fact that the comments section is flooded with Truthers.

Gee, I wonder why?
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 22nd December 2015, 12:37 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 18,204
Posted By 000063
In the comments on Youtube, they're moving the...

In the comments on Youtube, they're moving the goalposts as fast as they can. Claiming that he didn't use jet fuel, he didn't use office furnishings, claiming that the likes on the video are faked*,...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 13th September 2015, 05:16 PM
Replies: 424
Views: 54,839
Posted By 000063
Unless, of course, any one of a number of random,...

Unless, of course, any one of a number of random, unpredictable factors changed the impact point and/or the impact of a 300,000+ lb aircraft at high speeds somehow went upward and damaged the charges.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 12th September 2015, 04:18 PM
Replies: 1,008
Views: 277,876
Posted By 000063
Except for when they, conveniently, did not, such...

Except for when they, conveniently, did not, such as the lack of loud explosions that would cause barotrauma, or shedloads of conspicuous wiring, or walls being knocked down, or...



Plus...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 12th September 2015, 03:40 PM
Replies: 424
Views: 54,839
Posted By 000063
I'd think that after all this time, y'all...

I'd think that after all this time, y'all would've given up on strawmanning "no explosives" to "no explosions". It's not like we can't see it.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 4th August 2015, 05:31 PM
Replies: 488
Views: 48,722
Posted By 000063
Incidentally, I love that "jet fuel can't melt...

Incidentally, I love that "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" is now a well-known meme.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 24th May 2015, 10:06 PM
Replies: 344
Views: 38,443
Posted By 000063
I'm not sure why you're Poisoning The Well when...

I'm not sure why you're Poisoning The Well when we've already drunk from it.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 23rd May 2015, 03:17 PM
Replies: 344
Views: 38,443
Posted By 000063
You mean the lack of inter-agency communication...

You mean the lack of inter-agency communication that was from all accounts common and well-known pre-911 and which lead to the formation of Homeland Security?



You mean like the 9/11 Report?
...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 23rd May 2015, 03:07 PM
Replies: 122
Views: 21,379
Posted By 000063
Yeah, about that; why didn't the bad guys behind...

Yeah, about that; why didn't the bad guys behind 9/11 just plant WMDs in Iraq?
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 6th May 2015, 08:28 AM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
That was me, Tony. It's kinda weird that that...

That was me, Tony. It's kinda weird that that sunk in, but not my repeated questioning of your claims about explosives.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 26th April 2015, 08:20 PM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
Whoops! Well, as I pointed out, I'm an...

Whoops!



Well, as I pointed out, I'm an Art Major who keeps poking holes in Tony's arguments. Didn't even take physics in high school.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 26th April 2015, 08:16 PM
Replies: 178
Views: 23,167
Posted By 000063
Correct! I'd guess "natsec". ...

Correct!

I'd guess "natsec".

Incidentally, I personally read about a potential attack by Bin Laden in a Jan. Time or Newsweek from 2001. Or was it 2000? Can't recall. The opening picture on the...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 26th April 2015, 07:41 PM
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Posted By 000063
Civil engineering is a professional engineering...

Civil engineering is a professional engineering discipline that deals with the design, construction, and maintenance of the physical and naturally built environment, including works like roads,...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 23rd April 2015, 10:09 AM
Replies: 178
Views: 23,167
Posted By 000063
It's also the "first time" a CD was allegedly...

It's also the "first time" a CD was allegedly conducted in a building still on fire (in 2/3 cases after being hit by an airplane), much less buildings over forty stories, much less three in one day....
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 21st April 2015, 06:41 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 10,840
Posted By 000063
Whaaaaat? Some have argued that the...

Whaaaaat?



Some have argued that the explosions were too loud for regular mics to catch.

Leaving aside the fact that regular mics have caught them before, that till leaves the lack of...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 18th April 2015, 08:07 AM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
I like to point out that I'm an art major. A...

I like to point out that I'm an art major.

A really smart one, but still, art major.



You mean the folks constantly asking you for evidence which you either ignore or refuse to provide? The...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 18th April 2015, 07:54 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 8,633
Posted By 000063
Seconded.

Seconded.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 16th April 2015, 07:18 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 8,633
Posted By 000063
And, y'know, no one of the millions of people who...

And, y'know, no one of the millions of people who passed through the building noticed the extensive charges or wiring which would be required.



Capabilities including magical explosives that...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 13th April 2015, 07:24 PM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
I'm not sure the term "clickbait" would be quite...

I'm not sure the term "clickbait" would be quite accurate here, but it's pretty darn close.

Sure, a little less than one-sixth of the columns being disturbed by the impact is certainly not...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 13th April 2015, 05:56 AM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
It pretty much always does once Truthers make the...

It pretty much always does once Truthers make the mistake of actually talking about their theories.



I've heard someone compare it to this;

"I shot you with my laser!"

"Nuh-uh! I have a...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 12th April 2015, 09:47 PM
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Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
Jumbo jets didn't exist in the 50s. Citation...

Jumbo jets didn't exist in the 50s.

Citation needed.

And if it's damaged, that means it's not set off, which means there's a chance that it'll survive the CD and someone will find it. Which...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 12th April 2015, 09:22 PM
Replies: 150
Views: 14,940
Posted By 000063
As several people have pointed out, the Towers...

As several people have pointed out, the Towers and the Pentagon would've been more than enough for war even without the collapses, and if they wanted long-term approval, they should've planted WMDs...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 12th April 2015, 09:17 PM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
The only time someone tried to fly a jet by...

The only time someone tried to fly a jet by remote, it crashed when they tried it without a pilot onboard. The plan doesn't require "accurate enough", it requires pinpoint accuracy. There's no way to...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 12th April 2015, 07:25 PM
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Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
I am aware that the locations and impacts were...

I am aware that the locations and impacts were determined by a number of factors that could not be anticipated, such as the exact load of the planes (weight, location, balance), prevailing winds,...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 12th April 2015, 06:05 PM
Replies: 150
Views: 14,940
Posted By 000063
Who are these masterminds who have the resources...

Who are these masterminds who have the resources to enlist hundreds if not thousands of people in their conspiracy and keep it completely secret for a dozen-plus years, without officially involving...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 12th April 2015, 05:57 PM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
Is there any way to shield them from being hit by...

Is there any way to shield them from being hit by a plane and knocked clear out of the building? Because They couldn't predict how the damage from the impacts would go.



It's insulation all the...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 11th April 2015, 10:19 AM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
Hello! ...

Hello!


http://www.911myths.com/html/israeli_art_student_spies.html
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Dancing_Israelis
Natsec concerns, probably.
...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 10th April 2015, 09:25 PM
Replies: 150
Views: 14,940
Posted By 000063
I assume there was an anchor at the end. ...

I assume there was an anchor at the end.



Education. Public Medicine. Law Enforcement. Law. Off the top of my head. Would you like your address and bank information released to the public, as...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 10th April 2015, 09:07 PM
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Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
The funny thing about that claim is that Truthers...

The funny thing about that claim is that Truthers say it's significant, but their reasons why keep changing. Originally, it was just "freefall is indicative of CD" (without any examples of freefall...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 8th April 2015, 06:20 PM
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Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
What logic?

What logic?
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 8th April 2015, 04:57 AM
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Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
Why are you talking about "the official...

Why are you talking about "the official narrative" as a whole, but focusing on one building, specifically? Does this count as some sort of reverse goalpost moving? Equivocation, maybe?



Don't...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 6th April 2015, 12:14 PM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
And yet, I don't really see anyone doing that. I...

And yet, I don't really see anyone doing that. I just see you and Tony harping on the alleged holes in NIST's story.

It's been over a dozen years. Still no theory from Truthers. Which makes the...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 5th April 2015, 03:36 PM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
See, that's a sensible argument. I mean, you...

See, that's a sensible argument. I mean, you still have to deal with the fact that the building was destroyed just to cover the destruction of those documents, which exponentially increases...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 5th April 2015, 03:28 PM
Replies: 1,031
Views: 133,697
Posted By 000063
Well, as long as you have motive, and have means...

Well, as long as you have motive, and have means which you had to make up and whose existense isn't proen, and spend over a decade with no opportunity, then that's all you need, innit? Case closed,...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 4th April 2015, 02:35 PM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
You're missing the point (of course); destroying...

You're missing the point (of course); destroying documents in such a way that your documents have a good chance of literally being in the wind is incompetent.


Well, the FDNY was "fooled". Why...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 3rd April 2015, 05:58 PM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
The ones you refuse to discuss beyond flatly...

The ones you refuse to discuss beyond flatly declaring that it's "unlikely" based on no criteria but your own opinion?



Except for the part where you ignore people pointing out, repeatedly,...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 3rd April 2015, 05:56 PM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
I have yet to see a Truther provide a single...

I have yet to see a Truther provide a single publicly-known CD that resulted in freefall. Also, incendiaries are not used in CD.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 3rd April 2015, 05:33 PM
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Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
:i:

:i:
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 2nd April 2015, 03:42 PM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
Which just further pokes holes in Tony's...

Which just further pokes holes in Tony's real-time arson theory.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 2nd April 2015, 09:14 AM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
Ad hominem, evasion.

Ad hominem, evasion.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 2nd April 2015, 06:09 AM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
That, or the bad guys were so good at their jobs...

That, or the bad guys were so good at their jobs that they fooled the FDNY as well. Oddly enough, Truthers seem really reluctant to discuss this. Tony's already ignoring one of my posts making that...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 2nd April 2015, 05:56 AM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
This is all really an extended false binary...

This is all really an extended false binary fallacy, as many have pointed out. Jay (and Tony, elsewhere) can't actually prove their CD theories right, so they're focused on "proving" NIST wrong, or...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 31st March 2015, 06:00 PM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
But how do you test that theory? /s

But how do you test that theory? /s
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 31st March 2015, 02:45 PM
Replies: 3,244
Views: 358,297
Posted By 000063
That was a joke. Hence the little :eye-poppi...

That was a joke. Hence the little :eye-poppi emote. Ironic that you're going on about false binaries when you're still trying to ascribe to me positions I do not claim not imply I have, simply...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 30th March 2015, 12:32 PM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
Then why do you so steadfastly refuse to discuss...

Then why do you so steadfastly refuse to discuss the CD theory with us, if you're so confident?



Ah yes. The ergo method.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 30th March 2015, 12:15 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 5,577
Posted By 000063
The Truthers either explain it away as the FDNY...

The Truthers either explain it away as the FDNY being in on it - which makes them accessories to thousands of murders - or just ignore the point, which is much more common.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 29th March 2015, 08:43 PM
Replies: 1,145
Views: 170,962
Posted By 000063
Oh, okay. Tony, do you know how a building...

Oh, okay.

Tony, do you know how a building is prepared for demolition? How it's carefully surveyed, how the walls are removed, how wires are run through the place, how people are told to stay a...
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