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Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 29th January 2024, 04:01 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 1,919
Posted By JSanderO
Are people still "into" this stuff? I can't even...

Are people still "into" this stuff? I can't even remember what they were fighting about. We need a 911 truth for Dummies.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 7th January 2024, 04:49 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 1,919
Posted By JSanderO
ae911t = grifting

ae911t = grifting
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 1st January 2024, 06:42 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 1,919
Posted By JSanderO
AE911T is simply a way to raise money to pay the...

AE911T is simply a way to raise money to pay the people who raise the money. They do no research and they are an embarrassment.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 18th October 2023, 03:58 AM
Replies: 363
Views: 34,367
Posted By JSanderO
I am not ashamed and it was almost certainly on...

I am not ashamed and it was almost certainly on WABC in NYC... which is a right leaning station. Not much to listen to radio wise... Air America is gone... so it's mostly right wing bloviators in my...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 22nd August 2023, 04:17 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 9,457
Posted By JSanderO
911T never got any traction... was treading water...

911T never got any traction... was treading water and is slowly sinking. The reason being is there is no there, there.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 18th August 2023, 05:25 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 9,457
Posted By JSanderO
It's 2023 and this nonsense continues. Why?

It's 2023 and this nonsense continues. Why?
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 19th March 2023, 06:51 AM
Replies: 85
Views: 12,246
Posted By JSanderO
Are there any credible arguments supporting the...

Are there any credible arguments supporting the conspiracy stuff?
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 13th February 2023, 05:36 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 3,834
Posted By JSanderO
911Truth "evidence" is not convincing to the...

911Truth "evidence" is not convincing to the reality based or the scientific community. They act as a cult or a religion with devoted followers who do not question their faith. On the other hand...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 1st December 2022, 06:10 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 3,834
Posted By JSanderO
The average person... truther or not... has...

The average person... truther or not... has little to no technical knowledge of civil engineering, physics, structures. Their only frame of references are "explosions" and planned building...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 16th September 2022, 04:49 AM
Replies: 363
Views: 34,367
Posted By JSanderO
Sprinklers failed...

Sprinklers failed...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 11th September 2022, 04:32 AM
Replies: 363
Views: 34,367
Posted By JSanderO
Heard a radio talking head claim the collapse was...

Heard a radio talking head claim the collapse was caused by crappy insulation associated with a Gotti family contractor.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 15th July 2022, 03:47 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 8,836
Posted By JSanderO
Truthers deny the perfectly logical and...

Truthers deny the perfectly logical and consistent with science and engineering explanations that have been put forth. They are "truth deniers"... willfully because the explanations have been out...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 6th July 2022, 06:17 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 8,836
Posted By JSanderO
that's rubbish

that's rubbish
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 5th July 2022, 04:02 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 4,375
Posted By JSanderO
AE only exists because people are stupid, naive...

AE only exists because people are stupid, naive and uneducated about the facts and the events of 9/11 AND are willing to believe what amounts to a snake oil salesman who is on an ego trip and looking...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 3rd June 2022, 05:18 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
AE was so disingenuous claiming they wanted to...

AE was so disingenuous claiming they wanted to explain the collapse of the three towers. There was no interest in any manner of research... none... not even reviewing, debating. discussing and so on...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 1st June 2022, 06:08 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
People with an interest in the destruction of the...

People with an interest in the destruction of the WTC on 9/11 know there have been many independent (not related to the US gov) people contributing to explaining how those buildings came down. The...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 31st May 2022, 04:18 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
AE's perspective looks at the event as a crime,...

AE's perspective looks at the event as a crime, but not perpetrated by OBL and his people (because they were incapable) but by "insiders", the deep state, etc. Their position is that the gov was...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 30th May 2022, 06:27 PM
Replies: 1,545
Views: 473,299
Posted By JSanderO
No columns were removed... some buckled... most...

No columns were removed... some buckled... most were bypassed by collapsing floors.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 30th May 2022, 07:32 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
Pgimeno wrote; "You've already admitted that...

Pgimeno wrote;
"You've already admitted that there's nothing about "open office space" that singles it out as unique to the kind of collapse that happened in the WTC; therefore the "open office...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 28th May 2022, 04:36 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
So we don't have many total building collapses...

So we don't have many total building collapses out there.... certainly of tall high rises. We have examples of CDs.. many of which had placed explosives to coax the building to fall a "certain way"...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 28th May 2022, 03:07 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
All WTC collapses occurred over several...

All WTC collapses occurred over several seconds... not an instant "explosion" destroying each tower. Time implies progression... start to finish. In the twins we know that the "progression" began...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 27th May 2022, 05:18 PM
Replies: 1,545
Views: 473,299
Posted By JSanderO
idiots falling for a pack of lies they have no...

idiots falling for a pack of lies they have no way of evaluating. AE911T was pretty clever using all the tricks marketers and advertisers use. I don't know the technical background of Stapleton......
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 27th May 2022, 04:07 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
Runaway is more "final" than progressive. Open...

Runaway is more "final" than progressive. Open Office space implies column free floors which were DESTROYED by falling mass from above. Progressive implies some sort of "development" or change......
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 27th May 2022, 10:27 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
Column crushing has always been a stretch in the...

Column crushing has always been a stretch in the collapse phase which was floors "failing" from the over loading of floors from above crashing down on them. Someone called it ROOSD and that was apt....
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 24th May 2022, 12:05 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
Oy makes a good point that the connections of the...

Oy makes a good point that the connections of the floor plates must fail to release the floor (pancake?) which drops.... and what seems to have happened at the WTC is that this process went runaway...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 23rd May 2022, 10:32 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
google it then... a defining characteristic of a...

google it then... a defining characteristic of a pancake collapse is a "stack of floor (slabs)".

"What Is A Pancake Collapse?
According to structural engineers, a “pancake collapse” is named for...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 22nd May 2022, 03:25 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
https://www.microblife.in/what-is-a-pancake-collap...

https://www.microblife.in/what-is-a-pancake-collapse/

"What Is A Pancake Collapse?
According to structural engineers a “pancake collapse” is named for the way collapsing floors land and stack as...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 21st May 2022, 07:46 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
if you look up the definition pancaking DOES...

if you look up the definition pancaking DOES requiring a stack.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 21st May 2022, 08:13 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
I don't thinking pancaking is a good description...

I don't thinking pancaking is a good description even in the collapse phase. I've noted this many times over the years.

Once the ROOSD mass "formed"... a mass which could not be supported by a...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 17th May 2022, 04:12 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
It is my belief that the fires which burned in...

It is my belief that the fires which burned in the plane crash zones... over heated lateral steel... which led to column misalignment a buckling... reduced axial capacity and loss of support mass...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 17th May 2022, 04:53 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
The collapse phase can be described as pancaking....

The collapse phase can be described as pancaking. But a more accurate description is vertical avalanche of floor material on contents... which like an earth or snow avalanche does not arrest. There...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 16th May 2022, 02:07 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
stacked one on top of another might be referred...

stacked one on top of another might be referred to as pancakes... I recall the term being used in a Nat Geo PBS presentation explaining what happened and it was a verb... what the floors did... they...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 16th May 2022, 11:11 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
pancakes don't go boom boom boom. The term was...

pancakes don't go boom boom boom.
The term was used.. I believe by PBS or authority figure trying to explain/describe the collapse... floors became pancakes and volia dropped as entire floors. ...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 16th May 2022, 04:45 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
Excellent summary Ozzie... People wanted a...

Excellent summary Ozzie... People wanted a simple explanation and believed it existed... so we got things like "pancake collapse".

What I believe was a missed opportunity was a discussion of...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 15th May 2022, 08:28 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
Mech floors were stronger but surely could not...

Mech floors were stronger but surely could not resist the dynamic loads of 30 floors hitting them. Seems intuitive.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 15th May 2022, 06:01 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
If I recalled correctly early explanations...

If I recalled correctly early explanations suggested dropping "pancakes" (floors). The problem with that was it made no sense for all axial supports for the square donut shaped floors to fail...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 14th May 2022, 10:35 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
not exactly... lower "block" means...

not exactly... lower "block" means nothing....structurally it would be the columns.

The mass of the upper block was all directed to the columns... core and perimeter... to the same on the lower...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 14th May 2022, 07:24 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
My sense was the entire top block translated...

My sense was the entire top block translated laterally and then with out load paths aligning it dropped (and was tilted too). The floor plates and hat truss likely held it rather rigid perhaps...
...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 1st May 2022, 09:30 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
Truther positions are driven by pre conceived...

Truther positions are driven by pre conceived idea about politics, international affairs, and poor understanding of physics and steel frame structures. Sloppy thinking at best. Gage has an ulterior...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 28th April 2022, 05:25 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
AE911T alleges an "inside job" which would be a...

AE911T alleges an "inside job" which would be a crime with a motive. We've heard some pretty outrageous claims.... such as destroying CIA records stored in 7WTC.. or the false flag to kick off a war...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 26th April 2022, 05:45 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
I have two footprints.

I have two footprints.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 25th April 2022, 02:03 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
I suspect that the CD folks are thinking that...

I suspect that the CD folks are thinking that something like fire damage would be symmetrical in plan... so in 7WTC the fires were seen ... alleged to be... on the NE section of the building. ...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 24th April 2022, 04:05 PM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
What is symmetry of a collapse? Do you mean the...

What is symmetry of a collapse?
Do you mean the entire building collapsing at once... straight down?
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 21st April 2022, 04:52 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
Try this graphic:

Try this graphic:
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 21st April 2022, 03:26 AM
Replies: 566
Views: 45,248
Posted By JSanderO
The collapses of all 3 towers at the WTC all...

The collapses of all 3 towers at the WTC all involved stages which distinct characteristic. So in the twin towers you had:
structural damage leading to local collapse
local floor collapse from...
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 8th April 2022, 06:17 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 4,598
Posted By JSanderO
"does Richard Gage know he is a liar, or is he...

"does Richard Gage know he is a liar, or is he like a cult leader, leading the gullible to nowhere."

He likely does.... He deludes himself into thinking he is doing great work... and deserves it....
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 6th March 2022, 03:02 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 4,375
Posted By JSanderO
AE was always a grifting operation... which...

AE was always a grifting operation... which exploited the gullible and stupid out there... who chose to believe grifters more than the USG or other reliable sources.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 15th January 2022, 05:19 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 32,174
Posted By JSanderO
I would like to see it slowed down.

I would like to see it slowed down.
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 27th December 2021, 05:59 AM
Replies: 231
Views: 32,174
Posted By JSanderO
These were gravity driven collapse... duh... and...

These were gravity driven collapse... duh... and one would expect the debris material to be centered on and concentrated at/near the building footprint... regardless of what initiated the collapse....
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 24th December 2021, 06:21 PM
Replies: 231
Views: 32,174
Posted By JSanderO
There is nothing that looks out of whack in the...

There is nothing that looks out of whack in the LIDAR image. And certainly nothing that supports a CD brought the buildings down.
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